[rmcaj]

Deposited today without a problem, got my money into the account quickly through Western Union. They also have one of my favorite betting options which is the "pending IF play" So far I'm liking the site and would suggest it to others. Listed as an A- site here so I feel comfortable that when I cash out there will be no problems.

[JBC77]

Try to keep us updated on your opinions of the place if you can. I'm thinking about trying them out.

[rmcaj]

So far so good, when I cash out I'll tell you guys how it goes. I forgot to say earlier they also covered me on my western union fee's and gave me a $45 free play on 300 and would of given me a $125 free play on 500 if i would of deposited that much.

[bookie]

What did they tell you about your cashing out options?

[rmcaj]

Originally Posted by bookie

What did they tell you about your cashing out options?

I didn't ask, but I always usually do a western union payout and I can't see how that would be a problem for them.

[TheOffshoreGambler]

I started with them about 2 weeks ago. I havent cashed out yet. But will report back if I do.

[SBR_John]

I got a mailer today from them. So far I have only recieved mailers from Heritage, BetOnline and BetUS.

[bigloser]

Originally Posted by rmcaj

I forgot to say earlier they also covered me on my western union fee's and gave me a $45 free play on 300 and would of given me a $125 free play on 500 if i would of deposited that much.

yes, but website says it is a bonus, not freeplay bomus - could be clearer

[isetcap]

Which package did you choose? Reduced juice or special parlay payouts?

[katstale]

I don't get it?? Maybe SBR boys can enlighten me on this. BOL (Bestlines) seems to have a very attractive model and bonus, but I can't believe they do not support Neteller or Moneybookers?

If they had those funding/withdrawal options--I would be all over them. Are they planning on adding those in the very near future?

Bill or John, any insight here?

[SBR_John]

Originally Posted by katstale

I don't get it?? Maybe SBR boys can enlighten me on this. BOL (Bestlines) seems to have a very attractive model and bonus, but I can't believe they do not support Neteller or Moneybookers?

If they had those funding/withdrawal options--I would be all over them. Are they planning on adding those in the very near future?

Bill or John, any insight here?

That is a bit strange. Poster Santo has made mention that they seem to only be focused on the North American market. I will find out.

Its a mistake not offer international players with their preferred transfer method.

[Wild Reet]

Neteller is still listed on the Bestline site. There's also a new ACH option at BetOnline.

[bookie]

Ach?

[katstale]

Originally Posted by Wild Reet

Neteller is still listed on the Bestline site. There's also a new ACH option at BetOnline.

Well, I was under the impression that they were moving everything to BOL. So it was their CS rep that i chatted up abt the Neteller option. CS didn't seem to think that NT or MB were that important.

Like SBR John--I just don't get that you don't make it easy for the rest of the world.

Again, anybody with a direct line to the head folks there--please jump in!!

Some Central American country's banks do not offer ACH--sadly!!

[Uncle B]

Was just asking about this place...Checked the mail this afternoon for the first time in about a week, saw a butt-load of mailers from them.


So, has anyone here ever requested/recieved a payout from this place? If so, how'd it go?


Thanks in advance..

[DrunkenLullaby]

Uncle B, a hearty WELCOME! to this side of the street.

There was an Erin Andrews thread here not so long ago that was in desperate need of your expertise.

[moses millsap]

I just got the mailer today. Tore it up in 3 minutes, so can't remember the exact details, but since the reduced vig plan is rather straightforward and self-explanatory, I quickly scanned over the big bonuses account plan and once I saw they had a 4 to 1 max payout on 2 team parlays, that's all I needed to see before tearing it up. (They also have max payouts on all the other parlays as well, 3 teamers capped at 12 to 1 I believe, etc.) Being unable to get full value on a parlay of two ML +130 dogs is pretty WEAK imho.

[bigboydan]

I think I got this mailer the other day as well guys. I noticed that they were soliciting for agents too I believe on the back side of the flyer.

[colt29]

Until you cash out, Why post. They all take your money. Hello local. Got paid yesterday, which is a little late for the week. Love it.

[aircoryell]

OK, been playing with these guys in bases for the last 2 weeks and have cut into them a little.

10% initial WU bonus 5X rollover, ten cent line in bases, 20 cent totals.

the big value with these guys is in foots. -105 everyday and more importantly -108 haves including totals

declined the bone personally, so can't tell you my experience there.

the rumors of ex-BOS personel in management are false

CS has been good.

don't really see these guys being successful with their current model, bit I'll ride it for as long as I can. Not too worried about a stiff here, but it will be interesting to see how their CS/collar policy progresses.

[freebie]

I had made 3 WU withdraws from them. I had to pay the fees for WU withdraw.

They also allow Fedex Check for like $35.
be aware you will always be in line for a WU or MG withdraw.
Example. if there are 10 people requesting a WU withdraw for that morning, you will be the 11th person waiting.

They can do so many WU withdraws at one day (I think).

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by aircoryell

the rumors of ex-BOS personel in management are false

Dalton Wagner, BoS COO, took everything that wasn't glued down and fled to Bestline. Fact.

[bigloser]

Originally Posted by aircoryell

the rumors of ex-BOS personel in management are false

Please provide further info. Dont believe this. Betonline was betonsports.

[aircoryell]

Originally Posted by RickySteve

Dalton Wagner, BoS COO, took everything that wasn't glued down and fled to Bestline. Fact.

hmmm...interesting. I believe you. thanks

[Wild Reet]

Originally Posted by katstale

I don't get it?? Maybe SBR boys can enlighten me on this. BOL (Bestlines) seems to have a very attractive model and bonus, but I can't believe they do not support Neteller or Moneybookers?

If they had those funding/withdrawal options--I would be all over them. Are they planning on adding those in the very near future?

Bill or John, any insight here?

Just checked the BOL banking page. The Neteller is back. The ACH is gone.

[ritehook]

Originally Posted by RickySteve

Dalton Wagner, BoS COO, took everything that wasn't glued down and fled to Bestline. Fact.

I believe this is correct. And in fact was confirmed by several BoS workers at another site at the time of the BoS crunch, and their final scramming from CR.

When Bestlines did what I think was their initial brochure mailing last year, they got the names & addresses from the BoS mail list.

Of this there is zero doubt. How can I be so certain? Because, like many other in the Big Sweat Period, when BoS still had a few people answering phones in CR, I called and gave them an address that NO ONE else knew of, an empty condo I had not yet rented out. I'd never received ONE single piece of mail there up to that time.

Shortly after, tho, I received at that address a promo brochure from Bestlines. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to know that that was from the BoS list, harvested by their skeleton crew still manning the lines in CR, and passed on to the new operation in Panama.

They were caught redhanded. IE, there are former BoS execs working Bestlines,or BetOnLine,as I think it is now called. Or there at least was some kind of close relationship.

Does this mean that, like BoS, they will abscond with player funds? No, of course not. No more than presidents and junior execs at a failed bank are necessarily responsible for the decisions that caused that bank to fail. It could have been a crooked treasurer, board of directors, etc.

And I'm not sure BoS would not still be operating today were it not for the fanatic element in the current Bush admin that went after Carruthers.

Still, I'd tread cautiously for a few years with Bestlines, betonline. If you normally would open at a book with, say, xxx dollars, cut it to x.

What would be mighty refreshing is if Dalton or the others who worked in CR for BoS would be forthcoming, tell us the truth, what their part was in the closing, and why it won't re-occur (like not travelling on a intenational flight wih a stopover in the U.S!)

The connection between BoS and Bestlines/Betonline is beyond any reasonable doubt. It doesn't at all mean that the same fate that BoS experienced will be in store with this operation.

But what I think bothers me most is that the former BoS execs at Betonline are not being candid. Tell me, Bet on line, how you got the mailing addresses that were given to the BoS phone line people, near the end? Tell me if Dalton did or did not ship everything not nailed down in the BoS offices in CR to Panama, to be used by Bestlines, or, now, BoL.

Stonewalling doesn't cut it among aware players. Honesty goes a long way -- unless you concur with PT Barnun about the timeframe in which the world's suckers are birthed.

[aircoryell]

damn rite hook. that's probably the most informative post i've read on any forum ever. props

doesn't take a rocket scientist, even before reading that, that this is a book to trust 10 dimes or more with.

[katstale]

Originally Posted by Wild Reet

Just checked the BOL banking page. The Neteller is back. The ACH is gone.

Unless I am missing something--I just looked at the BOL website banking page and NO Neteller.

Keep asking them about this. At the very least--Moneybookers would be an acceptable addition.

I just can't believe they would limit their market by not offering these two funding sources.

[Santo]

Katsale: You are aware they don't give bonuses to people outside US/Canada correct? Just saw you referred to the attractive bonus earlier.

[SBR_John]

Rick and ritehook you have it wrong.

Of of the managing directors of BestLines was part of a BOS book but sold out and was not even in costa rica four years prior. The other owners of Bestlines/Betonline never had a business relationship with BOS.

So bottom line one of the managing partners was involved with the BoS group many years prior. He was one of the few that was well respected and still is.

Does that clear things up?

[Wild Reet]

Originally Posted by katstale

Unless I am missing something--I just looked at the BOL website banking page and NO Neteller.

Keep asking them about this. At the very least--Moneybookers would be an acceptable addition.

I just can't believe they would limit their market by not offering these two funding sources.

You're correct, now the Neteller payout option is gone again and the ACH is back. I guess it depends on what time of day you check.

What up with that?

[ritehook]

Originally Posted by SBR_John

Rick and ritehook you have it wrong.

Of of the managing directors of BestLines was part of a BOS book but sold out and was not even in costa rica four years prior. The other owners of Bestlines/Betonline never had a business relationship with BOS.

So bottom line one of the managing partners was involved with the BoS group many years prior. He was one of the few that was well respected and still is.

Does that clear things up?

It really doesn't clarify (1) how I received a Bestlines promo mailing at an address that ONLY the BoS operation in its final, fraudulent weeks (fraudulent because they were assuring clients that indeed they would be paid, they just needed a mailing address) knew existed for me.

And (2), if the reports that came out of Costa Rica at the end, re Dalton shipping everything (computers mainly) to Panama were bogus; and if they were bogus, why were ex-workers or others on scene making them? Remember, those so reporting named no book in Panama. Likely they didn't know there was one there called Bestlines (indeed, did somethng in Panama called Bestlines,and under current ownership exist, say a few months before Carruthers was arrested?)

Anyone know the current whereabouts of Dalton? Anyone offering, say + 500, that he AIN'T in Panama? Let me know, I'll get down hard and then hire a private detective to photograph him drinking cerveza en una cantina exclusiva en Panama City!!

[remmy358]

Originally Posted by SBR_John

I got a mailer today from them. So far I have only recieved mailers from Heritage, BetOnline and BetUS.

heritage is sending mailers? suprising considering they aren't allowing new players....

[katstale]

Originally Posted by Santo

Katsale: You are aware they don't give bonuses to people outside US/Canada correct? Just saw you referred to the attractive bonus earlier.

Yes

But bonus aside, with the reduced juice--they could certainly attract alot more players/business if they were to add the most common funding sources. MB and NT

[RickySteve]

Why is BestLine named in the Gary Kaplan indictment?

SBR_John, you claiming I'm wrong is also claiming Jay Cohen is wrong. Hmmm, I wonder whose word I trust more.