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Old 12-08-2005, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Lets Compare Line Services

In all honesty Don Best gets my vote still.

SBRLines is nice to have since its FREE which is very nice of SBR.

GJupdate is worth the money as well
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1. GJ
2. Don Best
3. SBR

take your pick after that.
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i'll stick with the SBRlines. the boys of SBR have really did a mighty fine job maintaining there free service.

i do like what mike at G&J has been doing with there service too. but, they still need to work on a few things. if they want to compete with DB
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Free is for me, and SBR continues to do a fine job with their free service. Im not in a real need for a line service, so I dont see it cost efficient for me to pay for one.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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SBRLines goal is to dominate the free odds category. In that process we will pass G&J. Passing DonBest is not one of our goals. Hopefully we can work with both or maybe even aquire G&J or some of the other line players.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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1. SBR (you can't beat free)
2. Don Best
3. GJ
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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1. SBR (you can't beat free)
2. Don Best
3. GJ
Free is good! :thumbs_up
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Since I, and my company were mentioned you are stuck with my reponse..

First, about Don Best. Yes, I had dreams of catching up with them. With their latest acquisition deal I see that dream fading fast. They are like a Billion dollar company now. I think we all have created a monstor, and eventually we all will be at their mercy. I still have some fight left in me though, our product gets better daily and the price hasnt changed. Given enough time I think I can build a better product than DB, but at what point does a better product mean more success? They will always have more customers and money, but at least I can share in the pie. It honestly speaks volumes for a little mom-and-pop joint to constantly be mentioned along side a monster in this industry. If some of you only knew how powerful DB really was (as a company) and the amount of fight it took for G&J to get where it is today...


Now, as far as Free services. The way I see it is this. SBR used to have the best free service on the web. They def. pioneered the new standard. But as I stated awhile ago on the boards and to the people behind the scenes, the best compliment I could give SBR was to build my own service. In doing so I believe I have surpassed them. But my opinion could be biased. I just think since I was already in the line service business it was easier for me to create a product.

for comparison

http://www.gjupdate.com/litelinesv2

Like SBR, ours does not yet work on mozilla, but it will shortly.

Who knows John, I am an honest guy.. maybe down the road there is something we can do together business-wise. As long as it is mutually beneficial. I am always up for the task. We are going to be expanding G&J early next year, maybe some of our goals will cross paths.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Mike I have been checking your site and software regularly for month, why is it that most of your links on your site and even buttons in your software just dont work?

Like right now, most all your drop down menu items like football and basketball, hockey and baseball all have sub links and most of them never work?

Even in the application you have links to stats and matchups and I never saw it working their either.

As good as you may think your software is, to me it looks 1/2 ass. I mean if you can get your links on your home page to work for months how can you expect the industry to take you serious?
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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trouble maker i think your computer is trippin. i log in from the sbrlines log in for all my sportsbooks all the time and never had a problem with the statfox game info/stats either. looks like you might be having pop up problems.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Huh?

as AK says, SBRlines.com is SOLID.

G&J on the other hand has a website that most of the links on its home page do not work.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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my bad man. didnt read properly. kept on thinking you said sbr was not working...lol....shouldnt have started drinking so early.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Mike I have been checking your site and software regularly for month, why is it that most of your links on your site and even buttons in your software just dont work?

Like right now, most all your drop down menu items like football and basketball, hockey and baseball all have sub links and most of them never work?

Even in the application you have links to stats and matchups and I never saw it working their either.

As good as you may think your software is, to me it looks 1/2 ass. I mean if you can get your links on your home page to work for months how can you expect the industry to take you serious?
Until recently I didnt appreciate the importance of having a good website. I wasnt interested in traffic coming back. The website was a vehicle to download our software. The links in the software do work. If they didnt at one time maybe it was because we were switching stat providers to statfox.

Now that I do see the importance of a good website, we are working very hard on expanding G&J to more than a line service, and into a full portal. I have most of the website done on our development servers, but for the reason you stated (not wanting to look 1/2 ass) I have not yet moved it over to production yet. Our free line service wont be officially live and marketed until the beginning of the year, but the buttons on it should be working just fine.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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But as I stated awhile ago on the boards and to the people behind the scenes, the best compliment I could give SBR was to build my own service. In doing so I believe I have surpassed them.
Hello MIKE!!

I am always happy to see you chime in.

Well, now that you have surpassed us I'll just have our guys disable our site.





OK back to reality.

Mike, dont rest, because we sure aren't going to.

I shouldn't do this but I really like the competition so here goes.

Non working sneak peak at next years version of the worlds best free lines service.

http://flash.sbrlines.com
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Hello MIKE!!

I am always happy to see you chime in.

Well, now that you have surpassed us I'll just have our guys disable our site.





OK back to reality.

Mike, dont rest, because we sure aren't going to.

I shouldn't do this but I really like the competition so here goes.

Non working sneak peak at next years version of the worlds best free lines service.

http://flash.sbrlines.com
Its not going to do that every time it loads is it?

hey, it looks great. As long as the data is easily accessble. I never was a fan of how flash handled databases. And you know I will never stop working..
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I shouldn't do this but I really like the competition so here goes.

Non working sneak peak at next years version of the worlds best free lines service.

http://flash.sbrlines.com
Holy sh*t! That looks sweet! I can't wait till that is released.
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Holy sh*t! That looks sweet! I can't wait till that is released.
Dave and crew have been working hard on the SBRlines, and it shows. I cant wait to next years release myself S7.
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