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    Default SBR I Love You, But I've Got Two MAJOR Issues With You At The Moment...

    SBR if you want to take this down by all means I understand as you're running a business, but I'm getting a little pissed off and feel the need to let it out. Let me preface my discontent on these two issues by saying I still believe you're the best of your kind out there, and I do appreciate so very much of what you do for a lot of the guys here. I wouldn't even bother to post concerns elsewhere (such as c*****.com, the**.com, ma***wa***.com, etc.) as I have such little belief in the management's regard for player overall well-being at these places. Here are my two bones to pick from a player's perspective at the moment. One is for a book, one is against, and I think both are as a result of hidden incentives (i.e. money) being provided. Here we go....


    #1) Again how BoDog is above a D is beyond me. We all know they pay affiliates and pay well, but I don't think anyone is fooled. However, the entire industry will eventually pay for their piss poor customer service, ludicrous withdrawal timeframes, bounced checks, and now stealing unknowingly from players' checking accounts. If anyone else did this you'd be the ones starting threads blasting them and advising players to stay away, but here it just goes unmentioned as they remain an "A" book. If that's not absurd I don't know what is. Tell me one of your "B" rated books that is worse and I'll beg to differ. These people that are continually being screwed over in one form or fashion are all customers who simply won't return again period, and we'll all suffer for that. And...

    #2) In regards to this wagerweb situation, why you've allowed this to go on for as long as it has is beyond me. You've got a prior established scam artist using a few friends names on top of dummy accounts in an effort to defraud yet another book, and yet this has been a top page topic for three months now. On top of this, you don't come out with all facts for the book while allowing this established con artist to run amuck. One has to figure you either: a) Just want the players to get this side of the story for whatever hidden motive, or b) Think the average posters here are just too damned stupid and insignificant to discern the facts if they were given. I just don't believe you've handled this situation appropriately and openly from the very get-go. We all know this is just one guy using a few friends names and dummy accounts to take a shot at the book, but for some reason this case in particular continues to get carried on. I didn't even think the player in the 5Dimes case should have gotten the entire sum paid out, but at least he had some valid arguments and could have lost his wager, so he certainly deserved something. This guy's a well-established con artist using fraudulent accounts to establish multiple +EV scenarios time and again. Again why won't you come out in the open about all of this?



    Thanks for your time as always as I think these open discussions can only make the industry stronger in turn...

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    SBR please go ahead and delete this thread at your earliest convenience. As chance would have it, Justin was posting his conclusion to the wagerweb situation as I was typing this. We'll continue the discussion there if given the luxury of your time. As for the bodog thing, there are other threads about it and it just is what it is at this point...

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    Don't worry. Nobody cares either way.

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    Too long for me to want 2 read it..

    SBR Founder Join Date: 11/16/2005


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickySteve View Post
    Don't worry. Nobody cares either way.
    But yet you take the time to bump this thread that was on the second page? hmmm..... And you wonder why nobody respects a word you say? Just a quick look through your history shows what an asshole you are, as you've said yourself you are only on here to ruffle feathers.

    You really need to go to c*****.com mate, as you are at the wrong forum for childish antics and shitstirring brother. Grow the **** up and get a life, as some of us actually come on here because we have a stake in the industry.

    I don't have any problems with you bumping a thread I had asked to have disregarded because you want to go point/counterpoint with things I've said, but to bump a dead thread just to stir up shit is pointless for all involved. I guess it was due time I learned how to use this "ignore" feature anyways...

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    SBR has not answered, mods ignoring the tough questions

    Why do we pay these guys?

    SBR Founder Join Date: 7/20/2005


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    I agree with you on issue #1

    Why is Bodog still rated "A" ???

    SBR Founder Join Date: 8/10/2005


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    Quote Originally Posted by freebie View Post
    Why is Bodog still rated "A" ???
    It's a typo?

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    i wonder if the bodog monthly check to SBR bounced? ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthV View Post
    It's a typo?
    a typo remains on top of the chart for years.

    SBR Founder Join Date: 8/10/2005


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    Bo Dogs Pays you idiots

    I have recieved 3 neteller withdrawals from them within half an hour of requesting them

    They are an A still because it is not there fault it is YOUR dumb ass governments fault

    I am sick of americans blameing everyone else but the people who caused the problem in the first place

    We would not be having any of these issues if it wasnt for Bush and Co.

    LEAVE BO DOGS ALONE

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    Also IF a book gives a player a bonus then it is their obligation to honour it

    All books should do there investigating before a bonus is given

    If this would happen then the scammers would not recieve the bonuses and the books wouldnt be put in this situation

    WagerWeb gave the bonus, the guy scammer or not still had to roll the bonus, which he did He could have lost his deposits and I bet the book would not have given any money back

    Once a book accepts a deposit and adds a bonus to the account then they should honour the winnings or take the loses

    once they susspect a scammer then close their account

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    Sean72

    Right off the bonus page of the Bodog website

    "*Bonus programs are intended for recreational bettors only. Professional players or players considered to be abusing the bonus system by any means may have bonuses revoked and be subject to further sanctions, at the discretion of Bodog Sportsbook, Casino and Poker Room management. "

    For an obvious avid supporter of Bodog you dont seem to know their policies.

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    I think Sean 72 was referring to the Wagerweb case not Bodog. I agree with him, the books are happy to take your money in the hope that you will lose and if you don't they look for a reason not to pay. Who cares what their rules say, it is just like going to a carnival and when you get on a ride it says "We are not liable for any injury sustained on this ride" or something similar. If the ride collapsed you could bet their would be lawsuits coming thick and fast.

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