[SBR_John]

Personally, I dont think a fetish with dog fighting makes him totally damaged goods. But his stock is certainly way down. So buy low?

I would part with a 1st rounder to get him. He's only 27.

What would you deal or is his career toast?

[onlooker]

His image is tarnished, but he still has good years ahead of him.

I'm just not sure any team could win a championship with him at QB. So I wouldn't pick him up.

[ritehook]

If he's conVICKted he won't play pro ball again in the U.S. And he can kiss his endorsements goodbye.

[ritehook]

To repeat: if he's convicted or pleads guilty, he won't play pro football again in the US.

There are legions of animal lovers in the US to whom animal cruelty is somewhat akin to child molestation.

If any book is taking futures on M Vick playing for the NFL again kindly let me know who it is. I'll post up and get my bet in.

[stump]

nothing

[rjt721]

Personally, I dont think a fetish with dog fighting makes him totally damaged goods. But his stock is certainly way down. So buy low?

I would part with a 1st rounder to get him. He's only 27.

What would you deal or is his career toast?

You'd give up a first-rounder for a guy who's in all likelihood never going to take another snap in the NFL?

The government wouldn't have handed down the indictment if they didn't have concrete, indisputable evidence against Vick. According to The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 99% of the people indicted by the federal government between 2000 and 2005 were convicted. Bottom line: Vick's screwed. His NFL career's over.

[tullamore]

I give up a second day draft pick and thats if vick would come play for the minimum.

[rjt721]

I don't even think Vick was worth a first-rounder before all of this happened.

Think Atlanta would like to have Matt Schaub back now?

[bigboydan]

If he's conVICKted he won't play pro ball again in the U.S. And he can kiss his endorsements goodbye.

Who cares about the endorsement deals at all. If he's convicted he's done, and there is no value.

[tullamore]

You think petrino wishes he stayed at louisville? He would have the chance to go to another BCS bowl. Plus his former qb brohm is better than harrington and shockley.

[Mudcat]

I don't even think Vick was worth a first-rounder before all of this happened.

That was my reaction too.

He has some upside as an athlete, but his contract is way out of whack with his results. Not worth the cap space, nevermind throwing in a 1st round pick as well.

[remmy358]

the baggage..lost image...he's going to jail - not much value at this point.

[JoshW]

I have to agree with the "if he is convicted he is done crowd". I guess he could plead out, and then claim he didn't know about it, but had to settle. If he admits to it, he is going to need "to find Jesus" before any city is going to want to bring in to QB their team.

[Dark Horse]

Vick is toast. Federal case with 95% conviction rate.

[jjgold]

Vick might not even be claimed off waivers if he was on it, he has no value anymore.

No one wants black trash

[THE HITMAN]

Not much. He has a very spotty personal track record, this may not me the end of his bull chit. He has promised many many times before to clean up his act and obviously hasn't.
In addition, most NFL teams would have to re structure their offenses to accomodate his style.

[Junkyard Dog]

I wouldnt want that piece of shit around my oranization period.

[dodif]

a happy meal

[durito]

Nothing.

You´d not only be trading for Vick, but also his 100+ million$ contract. No team is going to take a chance on that.

[flyingillini]

I know most of you will disagree with this but if I could bet this I would. Now personally what I think he has done or accused of is sickening and cruel. However... his image is going to be destroyed.. he will have a black mark on him forever but no way in hell will he do 1 day in jail.. he will pay fines.. he will do anything and everything but he will not spend one day in jail.. his friends that are also in trouble may do time but he won't. I know most of you will disagree but just wait and see....

[rjt721]

I guess he could plead out, and then claim he didn't know about it, but had to settle.

Didn't know about what? That dogfighting is a felony? Ignorance isn't a defense.

No way the government offers a plea deal that doesn't involve a long prison sentence.

[tullamore]

Never thought I would say this but Marcus my be the smarter brother, and thats saying a lot.

[jjgold]

He could of been a great 3rd down back and a wide out and probably stiil can be but not a QB.

[Mr Nuts]

I doubt he does any time.But I do think his career is over.I hope he's broke as well.

[compaqDikk]

the need to stick Vick and that NBA ref in the roman coliseum and let them fight to their death

[Mudcat]

a happy meal

Well okay. If Atlanta picks up 95%+ of his contract, I guess I could take a chance and come through with a happy meal.

[goldengoat]

i wouldn't want the dude on my team

not a good qb and not worth the negative vibes at punt returner or slot receiver

too much of a hassle and too many bad questions will surround him for years assuming he is not in jail

[Razz]

I guess I'm going to have to play devil's advocate. The amount of attention and money that Vick would generate is worth much more than a first round pick. I personally don't think he's much of a player, and if true the allegations against him are despicable.
But he still puts butts in seats and is the face of a franchise. If I'm the owner or GM of a team like Kansas City or Minnesota, I'd love to have him. Is it worth the excess baggage and draft pick/player to bring him to a mid-major NFL franchise? I say yes.