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Old 12-07-2005, 03:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Pinnacle eliminates "grace period" when wagering

After 3 months of scalping pinnacle lines they have removed my grace period when wagering there. This means that instead of being able to make a wager easily when you see a line you like if there is ANY movement on the line in any direction the wager will be rejected. John from SBR said that pinnacle cracked down on others as well last week so perhaps some of you were affected as well..

The main reason that this is surprising to me is that pinnacle seems to have the attitude of beat us if you can.

Anyways just curious if this has happened to anyone else and what you guys think about this.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very interesting. What sort of message do you get when you try to make the wager?

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Old 12-07-2005, 04:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It basically tells me the line has changed.. does not offer the new line but forces me back to the beginning of the entire betting process.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I presumed that that was the default - you can only lock-in the bet once you've hit submit. If the line changes after you enter the bet but before you hit submit then the wager is rejected. I've had it with Pinnacle quite a few times (as well as with just about every other book).
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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YES

The same thing has happened to me. They have acknowledged over email that this is indeed true.

It definitely is a countermeasure which has been confirmed ...... straight from the horse's mouth.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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well, this sucks ass. it looks like we gotta find a way around it now. if it's possable that is. which i'm doubting.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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we need to pressure them to create software that still allows a wager if it is within some "variance level" of the current line. OR at least put up the CURRENT line for us to confirm our wager at that price. This is what most other books do when the line changes... being booted out to the main betting screen is FAR too slow
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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well, this sucks ass. it looks like we gotta find a way around it now. if it's possable that is. which i'm doubting.

Dan, you strike me as a pretty bright individual. If you come up with any viable ideas, please let me know on/off line.

Thanks.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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will do docdekay
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I thoughy everyones ac**** was like that???????????????????????????
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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sometimes i put in a bet 8 times. i have always had to be fast or lose it
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It has always been like that at Pinnacle. If the line changes at any time during the betting proces you have to start over. And the line always changes automatically depending on bet size so if someone places a bet that warrants an automatic line change and confirms this bet just before you do, you will get the message that the line has changed.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:54 AM   #13 (permalink)
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That's not true. Maybe it is account specific, but for my account when you put the bet in it "locks in" the bet for you and you have a certain amount of time to type your password in and submit it. I have never had a wager that got to the password screen that didn't end up going through. However I haven't bet for a few days so maybe they've changed it. It seems obvious to me that this "lock-in" feature could be abused, but I haven't been abusing it, and I think the solution is just to make the lock-in period shorter or at least give you the option of approving at the new line as others have suggested.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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DrSlamm, docdekay, and Crazyhourse are all right. I have seen emails from Pinnacle were they admit is true. Just like they give some players higher limits they give some players a "grace period" and a number of players have lost theirs in the last two weeks.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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it varies for different people, I was able to bet Illinois -7 +106 after it had already moved to either +102 or +101 on the sbrlines ticker, just a scalp I like Georgetown tonight
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well its ok, cause the bet also gets rejected if the line moves in your favor. Fair deal imo
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i wondered why pinnacle rules said it is ilegal to use 2 browsers...never knew there was a lock in period...lucky bastards
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:02 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i wondered why pinnacle rules said it is ilegal to use 2 browsers...never knew there was a lock in period...lucky bastards
Where does it say you can't use two browsers?
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:07 AM   #19 (permalink)