[sean72]

I made a bet last sunday on the Cleveland Indians at -128 at jamacia about 10 minutes after my bet was confirmed I recieved an email saying that my bet had been canceled and that I could make a new bet at -138
I can understand canceling a bet if the odds were meant to be -128 and I placed it at +128 but this was a bit rough

I also found out that they have changed there withdrawal policy so even though i can deposit 3000 the max withdrawal per day is 2500 and anything after that costs 15 dollars

Am I over reacting or is there a case againts Jamacia here as what is stoping then canceling legit bets in the future just to balance there books

[ShamsWoof10]

Well I agree with you that is a bit touchy... Lines move that fast in minutes... Now if they don't update it in time they can just cancel bets...

AS I SAID BEFORE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!....The books overall are trying to curb the people beating them because they must be beating them enough to make some noise... This is the only thing that makes sense... NOT US LEG.... How isn't it so clear to others..?

[The HG]

That's strange, I've never experienced anything like that. What was the other side of the line you bet? Was it +128/-128? Also how long was it until the start of the game? If the game start time was many hours away, and they sent you an email 10 minutes after you placed your bet, I really don't see that as too much of a big deal. Jamaica is a very good book in general and it doesn't play games like that, at least in my experience.

But as far as Jamaica's limits, Jamaica is not a great book at all for pros or big players. They are very good for what they do, however limited it may be, which is a good thing for US players at least, in today's environment. But Jamaica isn't now and never will be a great book for pros or big players. If you're looking to W/D $2,500+ per day, Jamaica is not the book for you.

[sean72]

it was a straight out bet on one team only

[ShamsWoof10]

Oh... No I know what he's asking... He's asking, and correct me if I'm wrong, when you bet your straight at -128 was the dog +128 because he's saying if the line when you bet it was -128 and +128 AT JAM...then them canceling it is legit and they should actually if that happened...

If so
the incorrect line would be team A -128 and team B +128
the correct line if it's a 10 cent line would be team A -138 team B +128

[jjgold]

Sean are you telling us the truth?

What line did you bet?

[MonkeyF0cker]

It was probably just accidentally listed wrong after a line change.

[sean72]

Sean are you telling us the truth?

What line did you bet?

Of course I am telling the truth

the lines were -128 + 140 i think below is the email they sent me

Sean,

Your wager on Clev. Indians -128 was deleted due to a line error. Please resubmit with the correct line.

Regards,

BetJamaica Customer Service


Is there anything I can do or is it a case of the sportsbook can do anything they want

[ShamsWoof10]

the lines were -128 + 140

HEEEEEH..? If I'm reading this right then yeah it's an obvious error...

You're tellin' me that Cleveland was -128 and Toronto was +140..? HELL YEAH that's an error and legit for them to change it...

[sean72]

no sorry -128 + 118 or something like that sorry the lines that they had posted ere correct at the time
I think pinnacle had them at -131 and dogs had them at -132 from memory
It was a week ago I didnt want to post this until I had withdrawn all my money from them which took 4 days because they changed there withdrawal policy

[MonkeyF0cker]

They posted the wrong line. It happens at every book from time to time. There is nothing wrong with what they did. They did let you know immediately....

[Santo]

Well i don't think 10 cents out would be a bad line at most places, can they cancel it because it was human input error rather than an intended line, even if only 10c difference? I'm not sure they can..

[spliff]

the max withdrawal per day is 2500 and anything after that costs 15 dollars

please quit whining over $15 on a WD over $2500. $15 is more than fair.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Well i don't think 10 cents out would be a bad line at most places, can they cancel it because it was human input error rather than an intended line, even if only 10c difference? I'm not sure they can..

Well BJ has dime lines so yeah of course they can if they are accidentally offering a game at even money.....

[sean72]

Thanks for everyones helpful input

I just wanted to warn people that this may happen to them so dont place your bets with Jamacia and walk away because you may come back and find that their books wearnt balancing so they canceled a few wagers

I thought posting a bad line was when they put the odds up at +128 not -128 but I must be wrong

I have seen lines move over 10 cents in less than five minutes before so I thought I had a right to be pissed

[sean72]

please quit whining over $15 on a WD over $2500. $15 is more than fair.

My gripe over the 15 dollar fee is

why can I deposit 3000 yet only withdraw 2500

It used to be that I could withdraw 8000

[Santo]

Well BJ has dime lines so yeah of course they can if they are accidentally offering a game at even money.....

If it was +128/-128 maybe, if it was -128/+118 as the poster later said, they can not, even if they intended to make it -138/+128

[ShamsWoof10]

If it was +128/-128 maybe, if it was -128/+118 as the poster later said, they can not, even if they intended to make it -138/+128

Agreed..especially since he also mentioned that Pinny. had -131 and dogs (I'm assuming bodog) had -132... If this is correct then the cancelled bet is not legit... Something is not right here...

[MonkeyF0cker]

I would be concerned if this were a regular occurance at BJ but it isn't. Sean doesn't even know what the lines were at when he placed his wager so speculating about it is pretty much worthless. I would almost guarantee that the lines were posted at even money or worse. However, if it happens again soon then there is definitely cause for concern.

[sean72]

I have asked Bill to ask Jamacia what the opposite lines were as it was to long ago for me to remember and honestly I wasnt taking much notice of what the opposite line was I just wanted the best odds for my bet

[bigloser]

How big was the bet?

[sean72]

2200

[spliff]

didn't mean to sound harsh Sean, it's just that it's been hard as hell for everyone in the industry the last year or so, and BetJam has been head and shoulders above most. They are one of the few coming up with new payment options and super fast payouts.

[ShamsWoof10]

They are one of the few coming up with new payment options and super fast payouts.

True but what's up with the $2,500 cap..?

[cincy_1]

True but what's up with the $2,500 cap..?

It beats a $10,000 cap that stalls for 3 months ... and THEN tells you to make 4 withdrawals of $2,500 each ALL OVER AGAIN ...

[ShamsWoof10]

I don't doubt that but a book of BetJam standards why is there a cap at all or $2,500..? That's not much.... I would think all rec. books will adopt this and the pro books (Greek and Pinny.) will not...

[sean72]

True but what's up with the $2,500 cap..?

I agree why can I deposit more than I can withdraw thats just wrong

[osotogari]

These are F**** bastards

[MaxDemo]

BetJam is a great book for the small player...very limited lines and small limits.

OLY and SBG Global are what I use for my large bets (over 1k). I have never had a problem w/ either.

[Bill Dozer]

BetJam moved the line the wrong way before you grabbed it. It stood for about 3 1/2 min and then went back to -138 from -128.

TIME AWAY HOME
06/30 02:04 PM +129 -139
07/01 08:45 AM +131 -141
07/01 10:30 AM +132 -142
07/01 12:06 PM +130 -140
07/01 12:11 PM +118 -128
07/01 12:15 PM +128 -138
07/01 12:25 PM +130 -140
07/01 12:47 PM +126 -136
07/01 12:53 PM +127 -137
07/01 12:57 PM +129 -139

Since they canceled it right after the move there isn't much you can argue. You could still have gotten the next best numbers at Matchbook or Pinnacle for an hour. Those 2 books moved the line in your favor after the cancel.

[ShamsWoof10]

BetJam moved the line the wrong way before you grabbed it. It stood for about 3 1/2 min and then went back to -138 from -128.

TIME AWAY HOME
06/30 02:04 PM +129 -139
07/01 08:45 AM +131 -141
07/01 10:30 AM +132 -142
07/01 12:06 PM +130 -140
07/01 12:11 PM +118 -128
07/01 12:15 PM +128 -138
07/01 12:25 PM +130 -140
07/01 12:47 PM +126 -136
07/01 12:53 PM +127 -137
07/01 12:57 PM +129 -139

Since they canceled it right after the move there isn't much you can argue. You could still have gotten the next best numbers at Matchbook or Pinnacle for an hour. Those 2 books moved the line in your favor after the cancel.

Well from the list you show I don't see a bad line there... The move the wrong way is hear say and the fact that he could have got a better line elsewhere is irrelevant... This to me is something I will look for and I sure hope this is not a new trend with books canceling bets on BS like this...

[Lucas]

Well from the list you show I don't see a bad line there... The move the wrong way is hear say and the fact that he could have got a better line elsewhere is irrelevant... This to me is something I will look for and I sure hope this is not a new trend with books canceling bets on BS like this...

I agree!

[magnavox]

I agree as well. Strange that Jamaica decides to go all through this for a player who did not take the best line available on the market.

[Bill Dozer]

Well from the list you show I don't see a bad line there... The move the wrong way is hear say and the fact that he could have got a better line elsewhere is irrelevant... This to me is something I will look for and I sure hope this is not a new trend with books canceling bets on BS like this...

You don't have to agree with what BJ did but it's not hearsay. That is what BJ stated. And it's obvious what happened as you can see here.

Where other book's lines are is very relevant and dictates whether the player took a monetary loss. If BetJam was keeping its straddle on the market they would have given the player his only 3 minute window at that low price and then canceled it away. The player said it cost him 156 dollars and I am saying it didn't and would have actually saved him money if he rebet it at the next best price, which was better after his bet was canceled.

I would have liked to seen BJ eat the price difference like they usually do but they feel a sharp player is jumping on a line move and there was no reason why he shouldn't accept it as an error. It's rare but sometimes books, including Pinny do immediately cancel bets after an line movement error.

Well from the list you show I don't see a bad line there... The move the wrong way is hear say

Actually it was the right way but they went 12 cents instead of 2 and the comeback fills itself in.

[Bill Dozer]

I agree as well. Strange that Jamaica decides to go all through this for a player who did not take the best line available on the market.

It was the best line by far. It would have been the best price of the whole day actually.