[Fishhead]

DAY TWO in progress

Up until about 5-6 years ago I would have only a cup or two every week or so..............however, in the last five years no day has gone by where I have not consumed anywhere from 2-20 cups.

Better off without it, or severely limiting my consumption.

Tried kicking the habit many times in the past 5 years with no luck..............so maybe posting about it will motivate me.

Thanks in advance for the support, as well as the bashing, that I'm sure will be forthcoming.

[Fishhead]

By the way, CAFFIENE is the most widely consumed drug in the world today.............I do not want to be a drug addict.

[MartinBlank]

As usual, Fish is stuck in the past.

Clinical researchers have demonstrated that caffeine consumption has benefits.

Among them---caffeine users have lower incidences of diabetes, parkinson's, colon cancer, it enhances mood behavior, is used to treat headaches, and has been demonstrated to reduce the risk of cavities in dental medicine.

http://men.webmd.com/features/coffee-new-health-food

[stevek173]

GL, I have hardcore Mountain Dew addiction going, tough to shake

[MartinBlank]

And if you didn't want to read the link, here is a quote for you:

"Overall, the research shows that coffee is far more healthful than it is harmful," says Tomas DePaulis, PhD, research scientist at Vanderbilt University, which conducts its own medical research and tracks coffee studies from around the world. "For most people, very little bad comes from drinking it, but a lot of good."

[MartinBlank]

Fish, I have a question.

After considering how clueless you are about caffeine consumption, I am curious. Do you still have rabbit ears on your television and you can't figure out why you don't have tv reception?

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by MartinBlank

As usual, Fish is stuck in the past.

Clinical researchers have demonstrated that caffeine consumption has benefits.

Among them---caffeine users have lower incidences of diabetes, parkinson's, colon cancer, it enhances mood behavior, is used to treat headaches, and has been demonstrated to reduce the risk of cavities in dental medicine.

http://men.webmd.com/features/coffee-new-health-food

I understand the "possible" benefits of caffiene in "moderate" proportions, as I do the same with alcohol.

However, when one cannot stop at 1-1.5 cups of coffee and goes beyond that, it is not good at all and in my opinion far offsets any positive benefits from its consumption.

By the way, coffee is also good for the prevention of kidney stones.

If I can lay off cold turkey until March, I may try to have a couple sips here and there from Billsfan's morning coffee.

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

I understand the "possible" benefits of caffiene in "moderate" proportions, as I do the same with alcohol.

However, when one cannot stop at 1-1.5 cups of coffee and goes beyond that, it is not good at all and in my opinion far offsets any positive benefits from its consumption.

By the way, coffee is also good for the prevention of kidney stones.

If I can lay off cold turkey until March, I may try to have a couple sips here and there from Billsfan's morning coffee.

Keep in mind also that there other means other then coffee that one can consume caffiene.........and in all liklihood, a healthier way.............two that come to mind............


DARK CHOCOLATE
TEA

[Fishhead]

As for the coffee connection, I recommend that you continue to cut back. While coffee may prevent gallstone formation, it is also an addictive drug that can cause or worsen other troublesome health problems: headaches, anxiety, insomnia, cardiac arrhythmia (palpitations), high blood pressure, gastrointestinal and urinary disorders, prostate trouble and PMS. If you are interested in the positive effect of caffeine on gallstones, I suggest drinking green tea, which has less caffeine than coffee and a host of health advantages including protection from cancer.
Andrew Weil, M.D.

[Flying Dutchman]

1 cup a day...mine is 24 oz

[minet123]

Good Luck fish,i had stopped all coffee for about 5 years, i had one cup last may and now i am back up to 3 cups a day

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by minet123

Good Luck fish,i had stopped all coffee for about 5 years, i had one cup last may and now i am back up to 3 cups a day

[The General]

Best of luck, Fishhead.

I cannot handle ANYTHING which perks me up. Caffeine really shakes me up and I get the jitters with a racing heart beat. The natural God given urge of energy is more than enough for me, actually resulting in anxiety, hypertension and OCD. I have a problem relaxing and I want to do everything needing done in life RIGHT NOW. I am trying to learn how to relax and to take it easy. Struggling with it.

Best to you.

[The General]

BTW, if you really want to see serious Caffeine consumption, go to a few AA meetings. WOW.

[THE PROFIT]

The general has heart issues & should limit coffee to the 1-2 morning wake up cups per day. But Fish, coffee isn't really bad for you. I was a heavy drinker & I have quit cold turkey. I wouldn't say quit but I'm just taking a break & when I do drink again it's going to be in more moderation than before. The thing is, since I quit drinking alcohol I have consumed more coffee in the last 6 months than I have in 6 years.

Where I used to have a gin 'n' tonic in my hand constantly that has been replaced by Folgers columbian blend. The biggest problem I see is I don't sleep at night. I can go 24 hours easily before sleeping for 4-5 hours and I'm good to go again.

To make things worse I am addicted to a high caffeine soft drink. Down here in NE TN we have a local bottling company that makes a drink called Dr.Enuf. I drink the diet one, I don't drink anything but diet drinks when I drink them so there's no fat, calories or carbs, but they are loaded with vitamins & caffeine. But they are so damn good!

Now Stevik, a mtn dew addiction, that's 50 times worse because I'm sure he's not drinking the diet. There are so many calories in a Mtn Dew that for someone who drinks 2 a day that's 25 pounds you could drop fast from cutting them out. I used to think *hit like that didn't matter when I was in my twenties, but I'm getting ready to turn 34 and the metabolism has slowed WAY down!

[lakerboy]

1 cup in the morning and 1 cup around 4pm.

[THE PROFIT]

Originally Posted by The General

BTW, if you really want to see serious Caffeine consumption, go to a few AA meetings. WOW.

That's funny general. I wrote my post before I saw this one. You nailed it! I drink so much coffee now that I'm not drinking alcohol

[Fishhead]

Good stuff guys.........

I think coffee/caffiene has a lot to do with the individual person........as THE GENERAL has mentioned.

I know that I'm better off without it........or consuming very, very little.


fh

[SamsNCharge99]

I have never had coffee...don't need it

[THE PROFIT]

I have read clinical studies & done my own research on addictive drugs and people that are prone to be more addicted to certain type drugs. My studies have been taken from a HUGE sample & there's only 1 common denominator in it all & it's something we should be concerned about. The 1 common denominator that everyone who has ever tried drugs, been addicted to drugs, used non addictive drugs like marijuana, have become full out crackheads, all have one thing & one thing only in common.

They drank milk first! Milk is the #1 gateway drug. Even if you don't get addicted to milk which 99.9999% of the population doesn't, it exponentially opens you up for addiction to crack, smack, the lady, maryjane, uppers, downers, blow, china white, alcohol, after shave strained through white bread, peruvian flake, the list goes on.

100% of drug addicts all drank milk before trying their first drug. Something to think about. Now the very profitable coalition for a drug free america would like for you to think that Marijuana is the leading gateway drug, but only 48% of drug addicts have tried marijuana.

[THE PROFIT]

Originally Posted by SamsNCharge99

I have never had coffee...don't need it

you can't drink coffee until you get pubes. You only acquire a taste for it when you get fuzz on the peaches

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

I have read clinical studies & done my own research on addictive drugs and people that are prone to be more addicted to certain type drugs. My studies have been taken from a HUGE sample & there's only 1 common denominator in it all & it's something we should be concerned about. The 1 common denominator that everyone who has ever tried drugs, been addicted to drugs, used non addictive drugs like marijuana, have become full out crackheads, all have one thing & one thing only in common.

They drank milk first! Milk is the #1 gateway drug. Even if you don't get addicted to milk which 99.9999% of the population doesn't, it exponentially opens you up for addiction to crack, smack, the lady, maryjane, uppers, downers, blow, china white, alcohol, after shave strained through white bread, peruvian flake, the list goes on.

100% of drug addicts all drank milk before trying their first drug. Something to think about. Now the very profitable coalition for a drug free america would like for you to think that Marijuana is the leading gateway drug, but only 48% of drug addicts have tried marijuana.

Is there any poster here that has NEVER had milk?

[THE PROFIT]

No, so you and all of us are at high risk of becoming addicted to something. The numbers don't lie

[Glitch]

firstly, theres nothing wrong with being a drug addict

secondly, you should try some other kinda non-caffienated hot beverage for times when you would normally drink coffee. gl ive kicked a few habits in my day and the old switcheroo is pretty clutch.

[maersksealand]

probably the study showing the coffee is good for your health was financed by Starbucks.

Good for you Fishhead for this decision. I don't know how you served the coffee but if you put sugar there is a chance your body might crave the sugar...so when you feel like wanting coffee eat some honey or a bit of chocolate...and drink water during the day.

if you ever need energy try the 100% natural vitamins Alive http://www.herbalremedies.com/almulvitwir9.html
(powder not tablets)...it will give you a lot of energy.

[THE PROFIT]

I'm already drinking coffee to get off alcohol now I have to ween myself off the coffee, damn what a vicious cycle this *hit is!

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

I'm already drinking coffee to get off alcohol now I have to ween myself off the coffee, damn what a vicious cycle this *hit is!

I HEAR YA!!!


Trying to limit my alcohol also...........


It is vicious..............

[THE PROFIT]

Originally Posted by maersksealand

probably the study showing the coffee is good for your health was financed by Starbucks.

Good for you Fishhead for this decision. I don't know how you served the coffee but if you put sugar there is a chance your body might crave the sugar...so when you feel like wanting coffee eat some honey or a bit of chocolate...and drink water during the day.

if you ever need energy try the 100% natural vitamins Alive http://www.herbalremedies.com/almulvitwir9.html
(powder not tablets)...it will give you a lot of energy.

Just like the studies showing marijuana is a gateway drug was financed by the US judicial system & probably Pfizer. Smoke & mirrors guys

I've done some powder that gave me alot of energy

[THE PROFIT]

alright guys, gonna get another cup of coffee & get back to cappin'

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

alright guys, gonna get another cup of coffee & get back to cappin'

I'm jeolous

[JohnAnthony]

Rule of Thumb: For every research on a certain topic you will find at least 5 countering researches.

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by JohnAnthony

Rule of Thumb: For every research on a certain topic you will find at least 5 countering researches.

[jjgold]

Fishhead I have found some answers taking a shot or two of Blackberry brandy each day, it might work for you also and fill the void of coffeee and any other thing you crave. I enjoy it.

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by jjgold

Fishhead I have found some answers taking a shot or two of Blackberry brandy each day, it might work for you also and fill the void of coffeee and any other thing you crave. I enjoy it.

Ok, thanks

[odusmykal]

Best of luck Fish.. Any addiction is hard to kick, but can be accomplished with strong will power and the "want" to quit.. If you're serious about this, you'll be quit in a matter of days Fish.. You seem like a guy strong enough to give it up.. Best of luck friend..