[frostno98]

Just notice it at the SBR store. Had the cheapest redemption freeplay, rather save mine for BetJamaica though.

[LLXC]

Part of the BetPhoenix family.

[THEGREAT30]

a book associated with Betphoenix

[THE PROFIT]

Wagerchief! I guess it's a sportsbook owned by the Indians! The native americans are living proof for those white folk out there that don't believe "What goes around comes around". They're taking our land & houses through gambling, they're not raping our women & murdering our villagers................YET!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[DeluxeLiner]

I think they really want to build a base of people so they are doing a lot of promo stuff

[iceminers26]

Not a fan of BP or any of their sister books, hold out for the BetJam one like you planned on doing.

[Shortstop]

Originally Posted by LLXC

Part of the BetPhoenix family.

Thanks for the info, I didn't know that.

[JohnAnthony]

Yep, that's why I'm hesitant of touching them.

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by iceminers26

Not a fan of BP or any of their sister books, hold out for the BetJam one like you planned on doing.

Agree, I would recommend holding off of any BP related book until at least August................numerous red flags with this operation over the past six weeks(see Sportsbook and Industry forum).

[StraitShooter]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

Wagerchief! I guess it's a sportsbook owned by the Indians! The native americans are living proof for those white folk out there that don't believe "What goes around comes around". They're taking our land & houses through gambling, they're not raping our women & murdering our villagers................YET!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

Wagerchief! I guess it's a sportsbook owned by the Indians! The native americans are living proof for those white folk out there that don't believe "What goes around comes around". They're taking our land & houses through gambling, they're not raping our women & murdering our villagers................YET!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

This is so true..............

[StraitShooter]

Originally Posted by iceminers26

Not a fan of BP or any of their sister books, hold out for the BetJam one like you planned on doing.

I disagree

who gives a shit about a year from now

WagerChief is paying out fast as fuk today and will be 30 days from now

The 190 points are a freakin steal..this price is only that way because it is a new alternative for spending your points

Yeah yeah yeah BetJam is great and has great CS and pays quick..But WagerChief will pay you just as quick, has a ton more options to bet on and the free play is like half the price

No brainer IMO..take the WChief while its avail

[Fishhead]

Haven't even looked in 3 weeks, but is it true that Wagechief has the best VALUE in terms of freeplays and/or cash right now.........even for those with over 1500 pts?????


Let me know, I'm to tired and lazy to look for myself.


Thanks

[StraitShooter]

Fish..WC added the free play option 3-4 days ago..there have come in at under 200 points for a free play..I expect this to go up as soon as jobless jimmy orders a few free plays..they just want to get their feet wet and get some more exposure..

I have no clue about large point FPs and cash..Not my problem..I actually owe the Mexican Stallion so I am in the red

[Fishhead]

BP and sister books scare the hell out of me right now.........I'm avoiding them and recommending the same to others.


Use a wait and see approach here gang..........


It really upsets me that SBR and their entire staff are actually pimping this entire operation more so then giving advisory warnings.

Be careful out there folks.

[StraitShooter]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

BP and sister books scare the hell out of me right now.........I'm avoiding them and recommending the same to others.


Use a wait and see approach here gang..........


It really upsets me that SBR and their entire staff are actually pimping this entire operation more so then giving advisory warnings.

Be careful out there folks.

[JerseyShop101]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

Haven't even looked in 3 weeks, but is it true that Wagechief has the best VALUE in terms of freeplays and/or cash right now.........even for those with over 1500 pts?????

Let me know, I'm to tired and lazy to look for myself.

Thanks

Not to leave the other good books out, but looking for the best value and comparing these 3 books, I have the following:

$50 FreePlay
WagerChief 199 points (3.98 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betphoenix 225 points (4.50 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betjamaica 312 points (6.24 points for 1 freeplay dollar)

$100 Freeplay
WagerChief 360 points (3.60 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betphoenix 375 points (3.75 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betjamaica 550 points (5.50 points for 1 freeplay dollar)

$250 Freeplay
WagerChief 875 points (3.50 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betphoenix 900 points (3.60 points for 1 freeplay dollar)
Betjamaica 1250 points (5.00 points for 1 freeplay dollar)

$50 Cash
WagerChief 400 points (8 points for $1 cash)
Betphoenix 450 points (9 points for $1 cash)
Betjamaica 600 points (12 points for $1 cash)

$100 Cash
WagerChief 999 (not a misprint) points (9.99 points for $1 cash)
Betphoenix 825 points (8.25 points for $1 cash)
Betjamaica 1100 points (11 points for $1 cash)

$250 Cash
WagerChief 1750 points (7 points for $1 cash)
Betphoenix 1875 points (7.50 points for $1 cash)
Betjamaica 2500 points (10 points for $1 cash)


WagerChief 875 points (3.50 points for 1 freeplay dollar) for $250 Freeplay is the best value. Even for those that prefer cash, going the Freeplay route is still the best value as normally 75% of the Freeplay amount is its cash value.

[Fishhead]

Great work Jersey......enjoy an SBR POINT on me.

[JerseyShop101]

In comparison:

You can get at WagerChief:
(1) $250 Freeplay 875 SBR points AND
(1) $100 Freeplay 360 SBR points
$350 in Freeplay for 1235 points

1235 points is not enough to afford Betjmaica's $250 Freeplay which is 1250 SBR points.

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by JerseyShop101

In comparison:

You can get at WagerChief:
(1) $250 Freeplay 875 SBR points AND
(1) $100 Freeplay 360 SBR points
$350 in Freeplay for 1235 points

1235 points is not enough to afford Betjmaica's $250 Freeplay which is 1250 SBR points.

Keep in mind also the safety ratings of both..........

My personal safety ratings on the two.........

WAGERCHIEF C-
BETJAM A+

[JerseyShop101]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

Great work Jersey......enjoy an SBR POINT on me.

Thank you Sir.


Where's JJ? We need to get RebateWager added to the SBR store.

[JerseyShop101]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

Keep in mind also the safety ratings of both..........

My personal safety ratings on the two.........

WAGERCHIEF C-
BETJAM A+

Exactly!

Also the different rollover rules:

WagerChief 8x rollover on the amount won. This could be good or bad- If you only win $100, then you only have and $800 rollover to complete. Win $250 and its $2000 to complete.

Betjamaica 6x rollover. ($1500 in action needed before payout)

But as most know, if we are winning, we could hit a 10, 20 or 30 time rollover easily anyway. Bottom line is WIN! If it was only that easy

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by JerseyShop101

Exactly!

Also the different rollover rules:

WagerChief 8x rollover on the amount won. This could be good or bad- If you only win $100, then you only have and $800 rollover to complete. Win $250 and its $2000 to complete.

Betjamaica 6x rollover. ($1500 in action needed before payout)

But as most know, if we are winning, we could hit a 10, 20 or 30 time rollover easily anyway. Bottom line is WIN! If it was only that easy

By the way, another key point ..........


I believe WC probably only allows one to wager the freeplay on a dog no bigger then +200, whereas BJ has no restictions..........thus making the freeplay much more valuable, to the point where it may actually be better(especially considering the safety factor).

[minet123]

Originally Posted by JerseyShop101

Thank you Sir.


Where's JJ? We need to get RebateWager added to the SBR store.

I agree
Come on JJ
I have a few points to spend

[THE PROFIT]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

Keep in mind also the safety ratings of both..........

My personal safety ratings on the two.........

WAGERCHIEF C-
BETJAM A+

Couple questions Fish, or anyone out here. The 4x rollover is not that you have to roll $50 into $200. You just have to make $200 worth of wagers, win or lose, correct? That's how it was last time I did that with a bonus (been a while).

Also, I see this safety factor being thrown around. I know there was a whole thread about it but I still didn't get the exact point you & JJ were trying to make about safety. Is it because of US citizen, they are slow pay, on the brink of bankruptcy?

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

Couple questions Fish, or anyone out here. The 4x rollover is not that you have to roll $50 into $200. You just have to make $200 worth of wagers, win or lose, correct? That's how it was last time I did that with a bonus (been a while).

Also, I see this safety factor being thrown around. I know there was a whole thread about it but I still didn't get the exact point you & JJ were trying to make about safety. Is it because of US citizen, they are slow pay, on the brink of bankruptcy?

On the rollover........if you take a 50 freeplay with a 4x rollover, YOU WILL HAVE TO PUT IN 200 WORTH of action before you can request any type of payout.

On the safety issue, BetPhoenix and sister books(Wagerchief) have encountered numerous red flags with theif operation over the past 6 weeks(see offshore and industry forum to see some) and thus at this time they are not nearly as safe a book to have funds in as is BetJam..........safe meaning that your balance will not be stolen by the operaters of these sites.

[THE PROFIT]

That's comforting!

But on the action that means just action. win 50 lose 50 win 25 lose 30 as long as it is 4x the amount of wagers placed

[Fishhead]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

That's comforting!

But on the action that means just action. win 50 lose 50 win 25 lose 30 as long as it is 4x the amount of wagers placed

50 freeplay...........4x rollover.

You will have to wager a TOTAL of 200 bucks before you can request a payout. .............EASY TO DO.


FH


Every place is different......some require you to rollover the amount you WON with the freeplay.......so if you bet a +200 dog with 50 freeplay/4x rollover.........you will have to wager 400 instead of 200 before payout request............ALL EASY TO DO

[JerseyShop101]

Wagerchief showing great customer service!

I had to do an address change and because it took a little longer to update, (which was not a big deal at all) they gave me a free $50 freeplay! And I haven't even made my first deposit with them yet!

Thank you Diego and Phil!

[MJT1212]

Originally Posted by Fishhead

BP and sister books scare the hell out of me right now.........I'm avoiding them and recommending the same to others.


Use a wait and see approach here gang..........


It really upsets me that SBR and their entire staff are actually pimping this entire operation more so then giving advisory warnings.

Be careful out there folks.

Are you serious? I'm worried now.

[1st and Ten]

Thanks to Annie from CS will never play there

[MJT1212]

What do you think of Looselines FH, isn't that one of the cheapest in the SBRStore for cash and freeplays with low rollover too?

[Wagerchief]

Hi guys,

Thanks for bringing us up , I understand our name is not familiar to most of you but we are indeed part of the Phoenix sportsbook group.
Although under the same ownership wagerchief is run by separate mgmt and we try to do our very best for every player or potential customer . I am willing to negotiate and work around everyone's needs within the reasonable paramaters and still hope to become an out for many of you in the future .

Any questions you have PM or I will answer here in the forum.

Some of the SBR posters that have played with us can provide info regarding how I handle situations .

KR,

THE CHIEF !

[1st and Ten]

Originally Posted by Wagerchief

Hi guys,

Thanks for bringing us up , I understand our name is not familiar to most of you but we are indeed part of the Phoenix sportsbook group.
Although under the same ownership wagerchief is run by separate mgmt and we try to do our very best for every player or potential customer . I am willing to negotiate and work around everyone's needs within the reasonable paramaters and still hope to become an out for many of you in the future .

Any questions you have PM or I will answer here in the forum.

Some of the SBR posters that have played with us can provide info regarding how I handle situations .

KR,

THE CHIEF !

Keep Annie in Check....when I tried to open an account with you guys she said we do not take "bonus only" players. wtf is she talking about?

Turned me off to the whole Phoenix family. Good Work

[Wagerchief]

Hi

1st and Ten PM if you can and we can work something out , we are gonna be offering free half point for NBA starting next week.

KR,

THE CHIEF