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Old 02-08-10, 10:28 PM   #1
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They said no Moneylines were allowed in this contest, yet there was an alternate side line offered yesterday for the at Saints -7.5 +600?

Some people hit it and there is someone who is 1-1 and is up 15 units, the leader being 18-12 and up 28 units.

You need to make 30 picks to do in this contest. It's going to be impossible to win unless you open the contest to ML's or just void that bet altogether. Seems pretty stupid to not allow ML's but to allow an alternate line like that. Maybe you can just post alternate lines there for every game till the end of the contest.

So if you are gonna let it stand and not let people bet ML's or alternate lines, I would suggest taking down the banner down for it. You pretty much need to go 28-2 and hit your best bet to win this.

http://www.sbrpicks.com/contest/878/ - That is the link
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Old 02-08-10, 10:30 PM   #2
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sbr has ignored posts about this all day


why i have no clue

it was a simple question that they seem to not want to answer.
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Old 02-08-10, 10:30 PM   #3
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I suggest to just ignore it and move on to the next one if you feel that it is not a capping contest. We are all used taking loses in this game
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Old 02-08-10, 10:32 PM   #5
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I hate these contest where somebody gets lucky on a dog and shoots to the top of the board
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Old 02-08-10, 10:36 PM   #6
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If SBR lets this stand they deserve a downgrade themselves. I've been a bit disappointed in SBR lately. They allow shady moves in contests like these, they allow players to wager with each other for money (although the other cheek is turned), and they prop up books like BetPhoenix where there are complaints day after day about them.
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Old 02-08-10, 10:37 PM   #7
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SBR never answers anything when they are in the wrong. Only when posters are in the wrong.
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Old 02-08-10, 10:38 PM   #8
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The contest is pointless for anybody who wants to join now. No shot at winning.
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I feel bad for the guy who went from 1st to 39th.

I just joined and I realized this.

Odds that SBR does something about this? Very high.
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The contest is pointless for anybody who wants to join now. No shot at winning.

i have 30 picks left out of 30

when the contest is over i will still have 30 picks left

thanks for the contest SBR

1 dumb alt prop line that was allowed ruined 3 good contests here at sbr IMHO

a guy went 10-0 in a 10 pick contest and lost

LOL!

if it was a normal everyday line that was available on other games posters would have no beef but it was not a normal line to be offered were never offered before.
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Old 02-08-10, 10:48 PM   #11
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We had to remove BetPhoenix's feed off SBR Odds due to an XML error on their side. SBR Picks receives the data from Odds and that is the line which is displayed on contests using that sportsbook. It's true no moneylines were offered in this contest, but an alt side is still a side, and it was available for everybody to bet. In fact, when the alt line was available, it was the only side on the Saints.

I do agree that those who missed out on taking a shot at a value bet have reason to feel upset, not expecting to see a line like that available. However, the bet on the alt sides were booked and must stand. They weren't caught before the game started and we can't punish a poster that saw a line and bet it thinking it was a standard Super Bowl alt side (which it was).

We won't be using that feed again anytime soon, I can tell you that.
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We had to remove BetPhoenix's feed off SBR Odds due to an XML error on their side. SBR Picks receives the data from Odds and that is the line which is displayed on contests using that sportsbook. It's true no moneylines were offered in this contest, but an alt side is still a side, and it was available for everybody to bet. In fact, when the alt line was available, it was the only side on the Saints.

I do agree that those who missed out on taking a shot at a value bet have reason to feel upset, not expecting to see a line like that available. However, the bet on the alt sides were booked and must stand. They weren't caught before the game started and we can't punish a poster that saw a line and bet it thinking it was a standard Super Bowl alt side (which it was).

We won't be using that feed again anytime soon, I can tell you that.
that is an answer i can live with and is basically true whats done is done.

i will say though when i made my wager on colts -5 i never saw an ALT line

it doesn't matter to me anyways as i would have still taken colts -5

i just felt bad for the guys that capped their asses off posting good win %'s to lose to a silly line.

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Old 02-08-10, 10:54 PM   #13
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Seems pretty stupid Lou.

It would actually make sense to use that feed now to let others have an opportunity, and now that you at least know people who see the banner and sign up can't win, you should take it down.

Still a bad move on SBR's part. SBR gets downgraded from an A to a B.
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Seems pretty stupid Lou.

It would actually make sense to use that feed now to let others have an opportunity, and now that you at least know people who see the banner and sign up can't win, you should take it down.

Still a bad move on SBR's part. SBR gets downgraded from an A to a B.
pure their will be no alt lines available anymore anyways as it was just a football thing

basketball you don't see line like that.

football is over
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There were people asking about it before the game but you guys ignored it.

How about the 2 guys that have cheated before yet they still win contests ?

Damn you guys are dumb as hell !!!!!!!!
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You see them from time to time. But it's the point that this line should not stand. The people who hit it know it's wrong, and so does SBR.

In fact it is bad karma for everyone involved if nothing gets fixed, and I doubt the three winners reach there rollover.
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Old 02-08-10, 11:04 PM   #17
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yeah what a joke...You probably shouldn't call it a capping contest either..
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Old 02-08-10, 11:05 PM   #18
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Guys shit happens and when it hits the fun it is not SBR's problem when it hits you in the eye.
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Old 02-08-10, 11:06 PM   #19
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The only justification they can make for this "All Sports Shootout" to make the contest just a bit fair would be to allow NBA and NCAAB ML's since the NFL is over for the season.
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Old 02-08-10, 11:41 PM   #20
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Guys, I don't know what the big deal is. People were really going out on a limb who took saints -7.5. Anyone who took colts +7.5 thought they had a sure fire point but instead lost 9! It's a gamble. Here's the problem I have with everyone bitchin!
1. You act like you had to play the damn superbowl! You only have to make 30 picks not play every game on TV!
2. You had the option to play the regular line, this is a win one lose whatever point contest. You could have played colts -4.5 1t -110 and lost 1.1 points. You didn't have to play the juiced lines, so don't bitch because people "GAMBLED" & did it & won & you lost!
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You see them from time to time. But it's the point that this line should not stand. The people who hit it know it's wrong, and so does SBR.

In fact it is bad karma for everyone involved if nothing gets fixed, and I doubt the three winners reach there rollover.
I did not play it..I am done

That line was up for several days and every one and his mother could have played it

Many people who did not play it- did that because they thought the bet had no prayer

And if someone just plain missed it..Well it was the damn super bowl line so thats just tuff luck

I think sbr is doing the right thing by letting it stand

If it lost would you be asking for those players to get refunds too?

I guess the handful that played it are the only ones with a shot at the contest now..all I can say is congrats
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Originally Posted by PureGuava
" You see them from time to time. But it's the point that this line should not stand. The people who hit it know it's wrong, and so does SBR.

In fact it is bad karma for everyone involved if nothing gets fixed, and I doubt the three winners reach there rollover."

most the time half dont meet the roll anyways my friend
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am I the only one here smart enough to click on other books in the contests to find all the lines?
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people running up the units
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am I the only one here smart enough to click on other books in the contests to find all the lines?
Shit-I never knew that
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people running up the units
and some their post count..and you`ll lose the 25 in 2 hours
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Many people who did not play it- did that because they thought the bet had no prayer

And if someone just plain missed it..Well it was the damn super bowl line so thats just tuff luck

I think sbr is doing the right thing by letting it stand
Good post but still unfortunate. Maybe WagerChief will toss an extra few dollars out due to their curveball with the lineset.
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i have 30 picks left out of 30

when the contest is over i will still have 30 picks left

thanks for the contest SBR

1 dumb alt prop line that was allowed ruined 3 good contests here at sbr IMHO

a guy went 10-0 in a 10 pick contest and lost

LOL!

if it was a normal everyday line that was available on other games posters would have no beef but it was not a normal line to be offered were never offered before.
I would just click 30 games real quick and qualify for the participation points
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But then how does this make someone a better capper?

Also, if the line was an error, but it was there for days, why was it not fixed?

And if this line is ok, then why are NBA dogs at +400 not ok?
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It was offered at books, so how was it wrong? I had to think long and hard before making that pick and making it a best bet.
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Old 02-09-10, 12:37 AM   #31
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Obviously the people who picked the line and won are not going to argue.

But it's just silly to have a line that is 6 to 1 in a contest like this, you might as well have money lines.

And since I assume it stands, the contest is really only for people who hit it, so It would make sense to not even advertise for it since you have no chance of winning.
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those of us who did hit it and still have most of our picks to go have to do well with those also. I think I have only made 5 or 6 picks so far. I can miss a lot out of the next 24 and erase all that advantage.
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It's kind of strange that SBR is letting the line stand, even though they know it was a mistake by their system and it was on there for a few days.

Do books usually let these things happen when they post a bad line? No

This was not a bad line though, it was just a bad line for the contest.

I wonder if WagerChief is even aware of this?

I mean I've seen some pretty stupid things regarding some of these SBR contests. For instance there were contests sponsored by books like BetPhoenix but you were picking the lines from Pinnacle.
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Old 02-09-10, 12:50 AM   #34
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I do want to point out that I appreciate the contests though, even if there are errors in them.
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Old 02-13-10, 02:34 PM   #35
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We had to remove BetPhoenix's feed off SBR Odds due to an XML error on their side. SBR Picks receives the data from Odds and that is the line which is displayed on contests using that sportsbook. It's true no moneylines were offered in this contest, but an alt side is still a side, and it was available for everybody to bet. In fact, when the alt line was available, it was the only side on the Saints.

I do agree that those who missed out on taking a shot at a value bet have reason to feel upset, not expecting to see a line like that available. However, the bet on the alt sides were booked and must stand. They weren't caught before the game started and we can't punish a poster that saw a line and bet it thinking it was a standard Super Bowl alt side (which it was).

We won't be using that feed again anytime soon, I can tell you that.
Now problem Lou, thanks for the sincere and informative response. We know you try your best to provide the best. I was just confused at first as to what happened to proved that many units to some with losing w-l records when ML's weren't in the contest (except NHL). Keep up the good work Lou.
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