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Old 06-27-2007, 06:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What do you think happens when you die? Do you think there is life after death or do the lights just turn out?

I have had a near death experience once and I can honsetly say that I didn't experience ever. However, my aunt was brought back after her heart stopped and she told me she saw a bright light and was being drawn towards it.

If you ever think about this stuff it is very interesting.

How about who or what created the Universe???

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Old 06-27-2007, 08:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Within our physical body we have a spiritual body (aka astral body) or higher self which is in essence made of light. When the physical body dies, the astral body migrates towards the spiritual (aka astral plane) of which there are many levels.Some refuse or become confused and remain close to the earthly plane [ghosts]. Some invade other's physical bodies [posessions,multible personalities, etc]
The higher the vibration you can create for yourself in the earthly life,the better vechile and passport you will have in the astral world." You shall reep what you sew".
I have no fear of death, I just hope my actions on earth earn enough credits for an E ticket ride.
As for universe creation, I've always thought God just ripped a juicy corker and here we are.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Within our physical body we have a spiritual body (aka astral body) or higher self which is in essence made of light. When the physical body dies, the astral body migrates towards the spiritual (aka astral plane) of which there are many levels.Some refuse or become confused and remain close to the earthly plane [ghosts]. Some invade other's physical bodies [posessions,multible personalities, etc]
The higher the vibration you can create for yourself in the earthly life,the better vechile and passport you will have in the astral world." You shall reep what you sew".
I have no fear of death, I just hope my actions on earth earn enough credits for an E ticket ride.
As for universe creation, I've always thought God just ripped a juicy corker and here we are.
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My grandmother basically said the same thing as your aunt.She died and was brought back. Saw the light and all that, also wished that the drs wouldnt have brought back.

Me Ive been in 2 motorcycle accidents and both times I dont remember anything. Both were serious, one was serious enough to spend weeks in a hospital.

I do believe in God, and hope Ive been worthy enough here on earth to make it to heaven. Im not personally looking forward to finding out though.

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I believe in evolution, that we descended from apes over millions of years. The scientific view of life basically. So, turns black is my answer. Religion helps a lot of people sleep at night. I just think it's a hoax......and a very big one at that.
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The brightest minds are still working today to discover where "we" really come from. It just seems at every turn religion is debunked by scientific evidence. Basically if scientists can prove we evolved, that we didn't get here by Adam & Eve, then you can call religon a hoax, something false. Theres actually a war right now between scientists and the religious people.......and they are well funded, this is a battle religion backers can't lose.

Ask yourself what really makes more sense. We have examples of animals evolving over the last 50 years that we can see. They don't just arrive on the earth designed by a higher being.....poof.
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I believe in evolution, that we descended from apes over millions of years. The scientific view of life basically. So, turns black is my answer. Religion helps a lot of people sleep at night. I just think it's a hoax......and a very big one at that.
Many people apparently think that consciousness cannot exist without a physical body. Yet, during the sleep state they forget the body and don't even remember if they are man or woman. Did they lose consciousness during sleep? No. Because when they awaken in the morning they know whether they had a deep sleep or not.

Also, during deep sleep, man is very happy. By comparison, his consciousness is scattered (and typically in search of some sort of fulfillment) during the wakeful state. We may think that this sensory realm is real, but who is to say that this is not the dream? This sensory world rests on a tiny thought. Wipe that out during sleep, and poof...!

If death is a doorway (to another state of consciousness), similar to sleep, how could most of us remember it if we can't even remember our dreams? As soon as we wake up in the morning, the shift of consciousness to the wakeful state usually annihilates memories from even a very recent dream.

There is no death and there is no birth. There are merely shifts to different states of consciousness.
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Many people apparently think that consciousness cannot exist without a physical body. Yet, during the sleep state they forget the body and don't even remember if they are man or woman. Did they lose consciousness during sleep? No. Because when they awaken in the morning they know whether they had a deep sleep or not.

Also, during deep sleep, man is very happy. By comparison, his consciousness is scattered (and typically in search of some sort of fulfillment) during the wakeful state. We may think that this sensory realm is real, but who is to say that this is not the dream? This sensory world rests on a tiny thought. Wipe that out during sleep, and poof...!

If death is a doorway (to another state of consciousness), similar to sleep, how could most of us remember it if we can't even remember our dreams? As soon as we wake up in the morning, the shift of consciousness to the wakeful state usually annihilates memories from even a very recent dream.

There is no death and there is no birth. There are merely shifts to different states of consciousness.
Well played Sir. So do you believe in a heaven and hell?
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We just don't know what happens after death. All we have is speculation. My speculation is that the lights go out. Fade to black. Done.
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Well played Sir. So do you believe in a heaven and hell?
The answers to such questions, my friend, lie within yourself. I'm not a priest and if I were to continue along these lines I'm afraid I would begin to sound like one.
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The answers to such questions, my friend, lie within yourself. I'm not a priest and if I were to continue along these lines I'm afraid I would begin to sound like one.
Just looking for opinions. This is an interesting discussion
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I hope we get reincarnated into whatever we want to be in our lives to come. If this were the case, I'd comeback as a hot lesbian with the mentality that I have right now. I'd get so many hot lesbians, it'll almost be like heaven. Heck, it is heaven...
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I hope we get reincarnated into whatever we want to be in our lives to come. If this were the case, I'd comeback as a hot lesbian with the mentality that I have right now. I'd get so many hot lesbians, it'll almost be like heaven. Heck, it is heaven...
Sure, it sounds great, but you're going to have to deal with that whole menstruation thing. That doesn't sound fun.
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Within our physical body we have a spiritual body (aka astral body) or higher self which is in essence made of light. When the physical body dies, the astral body migrates towards the spiritual (aka astral plane) of which there are many levels.Some refuse or become confused and remain close to the earthly plane [ghosts]. Some invade other's physical bodies [posessions,multible personalities, etc]
The higher the vibration you can create for yourself in the earthly life,the better vechile and passport you will have in the astral world." You shall reep what you sew".
I have no fear of death, I just hope my actions on earth earn enough credits for an E ticket ride.
As for universe creation, I've always thought God just ripped a juicy corker and here we are.
Forgive me for being blunt but this is garbage... What happens when you die is your brain stem releases something called "Adrenacrome" (not sure if that is spelled correctly).. This is released to comfort the body as it approaches death...

The elite use this as a recreational drug to have the same visions... It's a halucinagent like "Paodee"... Sorry my spelling sucks... You can only get this from a person who is about to pass and you have to extract it as they are dieing...

I believe but am NOT SURE that when you die it's just over.... I sure hope not though.... As for heaven and hell it ddoesn't make sense so I don't believe in it... I think it's a sscam and uses fear to keep the population in check... You know I asked a lot of so called "relgious" persons of all kind.. Iislam, christianity, and judeism... To my disappoint ALL said if there was no punishment or reward they would not care about what was done in this lifetime... That's sad because for the sake of man people should behave not because of fear or reward... This really changed my opinion on all religions and think in a way they are a scam....
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Okay, peep this? If we evolved, where did we come from??? Who created the atom? Who created space?

Things just don't appear.
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