[Richkas]

45k for VD, Unreal. I would do it for 25k and give more production.

[Tsoprano]

Wow I didn't see that. I'm about to read through the whole thread.

You gotta understand though Richkas, 45k and he is NOT ALLOWED to do anything else with his time. JUST SBR. 45k is not enough money at all to live. At least here in NYC it isn't but I wouldn't settle for making 45k a year. Thats $865 a week and after renting a semi-decent place you are left with a couple hundred dollars. Cell phone bill, food, beer, clothes, cable bill/internet, insurance, gas if he has a car, etc etc etc make it where life is just a big break even (possible living in the red). Oh and I forgot one expense he would also have that dips into the 45k per year.... GAMBLING! Who knows what even controlled gambling can add up to in a year's time.

[wtf]

well he was in dallas, i assume you can rent a decent place for <1k/month

he is single dont need much space

[Brock Landers]

I agree Richie, thats a hell of a nice score to do next to nothing

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by wtf

well he was in dallas, i assume you can rent a decent place for <1k/month

he is single dont need much space

True. I guess I am used to thinking like a New Yorker. A tiny 1 bedroom apartment anywhere in my neighborhood is $2750+ a month. 2 bedrooms are $4,500 a month and rising.

[Tsoprano]

Still though, 45k a year is NOT a lot of money. It's ok I guess since it's an easy gig and he loves to post and we all do it for free here day in and day out.... but still not worth settling for in life (in my opinion).

[pavyracer]

No human being can live on 45k a year. After taxes is about 30K. That is $2500 a month.

Rent: $600
Utilities: $300
Cell: $100
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $300
Gas: $200
Food: $500
Cigarettes: $150
Alcohol: $100

This is more than $2500 a month.

[dwaechte]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

No human being can live on 45k a year. After taxes is about 30K. That is $2500 a month.

Rent: $600
Utilities: $300
Cell: $100
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $300
Gas: $200
Food: $500
Cigarettes: $150
Alcohol: $100

This is more than $2500 a month.

I hope you're kidding.

[tltaylor89]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

No human being can live on 45k a year. After taxes is about 30K. That is $2500 a month.

Rent: $600
Utilities: $300
Cell: $100
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $300
Gas: $200
Food: $500
Cigarettes: $150
Alcohol: $100

This is more than $2500 a month.

$150 Cigarettes where are you getting those

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

No human being can live on 45k a year. After taxes is about 30K. That is $2500 a month.

Rent: $600
Utilities: $300
Cell: $100
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $300
Gas: $200
Food: $500
Cigarettes: $150
Alcohol: $100

This is more than $2500 a month.

Rent for 600???? Where

The fukking projects cost that much with the retards and crackheads that get welfare in NY. $600 and you won't get shot and or raped upon leaving the house??

But overall I agree with your statement that 45k is NOT A LOT of money for someone to rely on in life.

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by tltaylor89

$150 Cigarettes where are you getting those

Cartons of ciggs cost anywhere from $80-$110 around here. And the price just keeps on rising.

[FishFace5]

Hey if you guys got gigs paying more than 45k good for you.
This is a totally acceptable blue collar life though.
Pavs your total came out to 2650. So his 45k a year basically pays for his life and he needs to be profitable at 1 other thing in life.
Give me a lil 9 to 5 making 45k and I'll double that on the side. I'll live modest with a smile on my face.

[pavyracer]

Originally Posted by Tsoprano

Rent for 600???? Where

The fukking projects cost that much with the retards and crackheads that get welfare in NY. $600 and you won't get shot and or raped upon leaving the house??

But overall I agree with your statement that 45k is NOT A LOT of money for someone to rely on in life.

You can get a one bedroom apartment where the Mexicans live here in Atlanta for $600 in a very bad neighborhood. I was being on the low end in my estimate.

[GiveMeaBJ]

You have to be kidding me Soprano. Tell me you would turn down 45k for a job on a sports gambling forum all day. I'm sure it's not a full time job either.

[pavyracer]

Originally Posted by FishFace5

Hey if you guys got gigs paying more than 45k good for you.
This is a totally acceptable blue collar life though.
Pavs your total came out to 2650. So his 45k a year basically pays for his life and he needs to be profitable at 1 other thing in life.
Give me a lil 9 to 5 making 45k and I'll double that on the side. I'll live modest with a smile on my face.

Actually they work from 7am to 7pm Monday to Saturday so are you willing to work 72 hours a week?

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by GiveMeaBJ

You have to be kidding me Soprano. Tell me you would turn down 45k for a job on a sports gambling forum all day. I'm sure it's not a full time job either.

I would't take any job for 45k a year. Just more ambitious then to settle for that. Plus I wouldn't work for anyone anyway. I prefer to be my own boss, not a spoke of a company.

SBR pulls in millions of dollars a year. They spent over 100k easy on the SBR Bash. They can afford to throw a mod 45k a year easily.

[FishFace5]

To be a paid poster most definitely.
If i have to punch a clock most definitely not.

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

You can get a one bedroom apartment where the Mexicans live here in Atlanta for $600 in a very bad neighborhood. I was being on the low end in my estimate.

Yeah well thats not the goal someone should have in life.

[GiveMeaBJ]

Soprano it is about the $$$ being worth what your doing. $45k a year is MORE then enough for me to be on SBR a hefty portion of my day. Hell most of us do it anyway. As long as it doesn't interfere with other money opps (I'm assuming it doesn't) then it is free money.

[FishFace5]

Originally Posted by Tsoprano

I would't take any job for 45k a year. Just more ambitious then to settle for that. Plus I wouldn't work for anyone anyway. I prefer to be my own boss, not a spoke of a company. SBR pulls in millions of dollars a year. They spent over 100k easy on the SBR Bash. They can afford to throw a mod 45k a year easily.

Hope your old and established or young and loaded with degrees. I'd fight to have some talking head toss me 45 a year to show up for work. Being your own boss is pretty damn hard in this economy. Pretty tough to make $$ in the middle of anything these days

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by GiveMeaBJ

Soprano it is about the $$$ being worth what your doing. $45k a year is MORE then enough for me to be on SBR a hefty portion of my day. Hell most of us do it anyway. As long as it doesn't interfere with other money opps (I'm assuming it doesn't) then it is free money.

No it doesn't thats the point. If he was getting 45k and had something else going on thats great. But he got FIRED for working on another project of his. So it's 45k but you are a SLAVE to SBR and have no more room for growth in life unless SBR gives you a raise. But by the time that would happen...all living expenses increase as well.

[Masu485]

you fukking piece of shit americans! you all make so much money and don't appreciate shit! 45k is more than plenty to live on (NYC excluded). especially for posting on a fukking forum. it's fukking upsetting to read this bullshit! you can live on $20k per year easily. if you stop stuffing ur fukking faces maybe u'd have some money left over at the end of the month.

[GiveMeaBJ]

It's hard to beleive being a mod at SBR is a full time job.

[FishFace5]

Originally Posted by Masu485

you fukking piece of shit americans! you all make so much money and don't appreciate shit! 45k is more than plenty to live on (NYC excluded). especially for posting on a fukking forum. it's fukking upsetting to read this bullshit! you can live on $20k per year easily. if you stop stuffing ur fukking faces maybe u'd have some money left over at the end of the month.

+1.

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by Tsoprano

No it doesn't thats the point. If he was getting 45k and had something else going on thats great. But he got FIRED for working on another project of his. So it's 45k but you are a SLAVE to SBR and have no more room for growth in life unless SBR gives you a raise. But by the time that would happen...all living expenses increase as well.

I meant No it Does (referring to if it interferes with other money opps)

[GiveMeaBJ]

Originally Posted by Masu485

you fukking piece of shit americans! you all make so much money and don't appreciate shit! 45k is more than plenty to live on (NYC excluded). especially for posting on a fukking forum. it's fukking upsetting to read this bullshit! you can live on $20k per year easily. if you stop stuffing ur fukking faces maybe u'd have some money left over at the end of the month.

Got to love how people hate Americans because we enjoy life and eat food. Yes, we could live on 20k but we would be miserable. We need 75k a year to live comfortably here because we like to enjoy life and maybe go out and party on a night, or maybe smoke a little weed here and there, or enjoy some good food everyday.

[pavyracer]

Originally Posted by Masu485

you fukking piece of shit americans! you all make so much money and don't appreciate shit! 45k is more than plenty to live on (NYC excluded). especially for posting on a fukking forum. it's fukking upsetting to read this bullshit! you can live on $20k per year easily. if you stop stuffing ur fukking faces maybe u'd have some money left over at the end of the month.

Just curious how much is rent per month in Toronto, heating, electricity, car insurance, how much do cars cost, take out food, groceries, gas, etc..

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by Masu485

you fukking piece of shit americans! you all make so much money and don't appreciate shit! 45k is more than plenty to live on (NYC excluded). especially for posting on a fukking forum. it's fukking upsetting to read this bullshit! you can live on $20k per year easily. if you stop stuffing ur fukking faces maybe u'd have some money left over at the end of the month.

Why settle for 45k when there is more to make out there? Why settle for less? Vegas Dave's parents spent a LOT of money putting him through a good college to come out and make 45k a year before taxes?

[1st and Ten]

You all don't know whats involved with being an employee, not just a moderator of SBR

[Masu485]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

No human being can live on 45k a year. After taxes is about 30K. That is $2500 a month.

Rent: $600
Utilities: $300
Cell: $100
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $300
Gas: $200
Food: $500
Cigarettes: $150
Alcohol: $100

This is more than $2500 a month.

Where are people living that utilities are $300? that a cell phone bill is $100?? food $500?? maybe for VD, but a regular person can live on $100/mth of food. and no one needs to spend $100/mth on alcohol and cigs! Jesus how are these necessities?

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

Just curious how much is rent per month in Toronto, heating, electricity, car insurance, how much do cars cost, take out food, groceries, gas, etc..

If you add up all the living expenses (without even getting fancy) it is mind boggling how little is left over to enjoy.

Don't forget about retirement, how can you raise up for extra money when you can no longer work?

Just going on a simple vacation takes a few grand easy to have a memorable experience. These are all things people should enjoy, you only live once.

[FishFace5]

Originally Posted by Masu485

Where are people living that utilities are $300? that a cell phone bill is $100?? food $500?? maybe for VD, but a regular person can live on $100/mth of food. and no one needs to spend $100/mth on alcohol and cigs! Jesus how are these necessities?

Now you just sound ridiculous. I take back my +1.

[mmike032]

$45K is plenty enough to live off in my area
I've lived off alot less before

[Tsoprano]

Originally Posted by Masu485

Where are people living that utilities are $300? that a cell phone bill is $100?? food $500?? maybe for VD, but a regular person can live on $100/mth of food. and no one needs to spend $100/mth on alcohol and cigs! Jesus how are these necessities?

Masu, the point is why settle for a gig where you JUST GET BY in life and can't afford anything more than the necessities when you can land something elsewhere and actually enjoy a few extras the World has to offer you? With the education Vegas Dave has and the natural skills he holds, it is unacceptable in my opinion for him to make 45k a year. If he truly truly has a passion for posting and being with us all the time then kudos to him and it's worth it. But I look at things realistically and do not think it is worth even considering.

[GiveMeaBJ]

People are arguing about whether or not people should be spending $ on alcohol or $ on this and that. Everyone is different. Some don't drink, some do. Some smoke, some don't. I easily spend about $200 on cigarettes a month. I spend $0 on weed. I smoke everyday for free. Usually I don't pay for alchohol but some do. I don't pay any bills, but most do. Everyone is different.