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Old 01-11-10, 10:25 AM   #1
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The points have a $ value and can be exchanged for cash. SBR is accepting bets and operating some of its operations from Texas.

What if they get shut down, will all points get paid out? Will crazylou have to go to jail?
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Old 01-11-10, 10:28 AM   #2
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Old 01-11-10, 10:31 AM   #4
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The key point here is that SBR is not taking any cash from it's members. You could consider what SBR is doing as a promotional expense. Similar to a game show. People win money and that's not illegal. I see no illegality here whatsoever. Defense rests.
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Old 01-11-10, 10:32 AM   #5
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Yep, coupons.
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Technically it is because it is "Gambling". Points act as "CASH" tender when receiving "GIFTS".
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Old 01-11-10, 10:37 AM   #7
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I'd guess the SBR legal team went over this before opening the sportsbook and covered their ass
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Old 01-11-10, 10:43 AM   #10
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Deuce, the key here is that nobody is putting up their own money. It eminates from SBR. Take the game show Jeopardy. Those contestants gamble every time they answer a question. There is no money being asked of the members and the points are a reward incentive. This is a promotion. If no money is being asked of the members, then no violation of any federal law has occurred. Defense rests, again. I would like to point out to the court that the defendants are being badgered.
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Old 01-11-10, 10:44 AM   #11
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It's not gambling when there isn't risk. ESPN and .net poker sites offer for-fun fantasy and pickems with prizes as well. On a side note, Picks and Points happens to be based in CR.
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Old 01-11-10, 10:51 AM   #12
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we are all paid posters and gambling with our salary
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Old 01-11-10, 10:51 AM   #13
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I doubt it... Of course if you ask the TX AG he might have a different answer...
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Old 01-11-10, 10:54 AM   #14
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Huh? Did someone hack durito's account? This thread was made months ago. Bitter much, durito?
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Old 01-11-10, 10:55 AM   #15
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Huh? Did someone hack durito's account? This thread was made months ago. Bitter much, durito?
Sorry I didn't see it.

Just a question.
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Old 01-11-10, 10:56 AM   #16
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You never know in land of the free it seems.
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Old 01-11-10, 10:58 AM   #17
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It's an interesting question... At first glance I thought "no way." But I am interested in looking at the case law (could be both a federal and state question). I'm sure SBR had an attorney look at it but these things are rarely so open and shut... That's why attorneys have jobs.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:01 AM   #18
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Huh? Did someone hack durito's account? This thread was made months ago. Bitter much, durito?
No he just pissed at John.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:08 AM   #19
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SBR points is a genius concept. Legally, it isn't gambling since players do not pay SBR for points.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:09 AM   #20
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They are not taking cash bets or are they paying out cash bets,if you redeem them for cash plays at the books,it's the books giving you the cash plays,not SBR.Case dismissed.
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No he just pissed at John.
Exactly. Interesting to see him let it take hold of him like this though.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:28 AM   #22
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"If it's free....it's me"
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Old 01-11-10, 11:34 AM   #23
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Exactly. Interesting to see him let it take hold of him like this though.
It's hardly taken a hold of me.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:53 AM   #24
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It's like rewards points for gasoline card. You get the option to get a gift card or cash back. Once the gas company gives you cash back if you decide to gamble with it the gas company is not liable for your gambling activities even though they sell the lottery tickets at the gas station.
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It's hardly taken a hold of me.
Fair enough. Just noticed a bunch of snippy comments, and starting a thread like this is hardly characteristic of you.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:59 AM   #26
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stupid thread started by a pissy little bitch
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Old 01-11-10, 12:05 PM   #27
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stupid thread started by a pissy little bitch
Thanks wtf. Helpful as always.
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Old 01-11-10, 12:07 PM   #28
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stupid thread started by a pissy little bitch
Do you ever wake up without a pimple on your ass?
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Old 01-11-10, 12:10 PM   #29
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stupid thread started by a pissy little bitch
Its a fair question.

First off we no longer have an office in Texas. Secondly, no one has to gamble. You may go straight to the store and get something for free. So basically you take points, which we give you for free, and play with them.
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stupid thread started by a pissy little bitch

I like you
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I think some US posters may have a tax liability depending on how much stuff is bought in the store.
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Old 01-11-10, 12:37 PM   #32
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Its a fair question.

First off we no longer have an office in Texas. Secondly, no one has to gamble. You may go straight to the store and get something for free. So basically you take points, which we give you for free, and play with them.
did you ship crazyl off to costa rica? Atleast that is a step up from Texas
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I like you
One racist idiot likes another i'm shocked
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did you ship crazyl off to costa rica? Atleast that is a step up from Texas
You know what happens after a while when someone is shipped to CR.
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One racist idiot likes another i'm shocked
They didn't use the N word. Don't be senile.
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