[BigBollocks]

There is little doubt that JJGold (Hank Webber) has developed quite a name for himself across various handicapping circles. Why do you think JJGold is so famous/respected throughout the handicapping world?

[gridironguy]

Good poll, Bollocks. I believe it's the first answer, and I voted accordingly :-)

JJ rocks!!!

[BigBollocks]

Cheers gridironguy, it'll be curious to see which of the first three most people select...

[austintx05]

people like attention whores

[Dark Horse]

JJ profiles himself as a losing gambler. This is unusual. Most gamblers lose, but will do anything to avoid making that their CV. JJ shows the darker side of gambling, which, I suppose, can be therapeutic for those who try hard not to acknowledge the oozing black hole at the center of their universe.

But there is flip side to the coin. Nothing he posts focuses on better handicapping. It is almost as if he advertises a losing approach to gambling. He's the funny kid in the front of the class who makes everybody laugh, but never makes the grade.

I appreciate JJ for who he is, but I also think that too much emphasis on his approach to gambling may set the tone on this forum to the point where more serious handicappers would rather find another forum to share their handicapping skills and systems.

[jjgold]

Bulls -2 -104

[Santo]

Where's the "Ignore him completely" option?

[Senator7]

I appreciate JJ for who he is, but I also think that too much emphasis on his approach to gambling may set the tone on this forum to the point where more serious handicappers would rather find another forum to share their handicapping skills and systems.

I like JJ, but I agree wholeheartedly with Dark Horse here.

[BigBollocks]

Dark Horse you make extremely interesting points. I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear that you have some sort of psychology background with that kind of assessment. It's easy to think of good times I've had via gambling, but JJ definitely makes me think about things gambling has taken away too (in particular time missed with love ones I wish I could get back). All and all I've begun to appreciate JJ's candor, even when he discusses things that could be construed as depressing...

[BigBollocks]

Bulls -2 -104

GL tonight coach

[JBC77]

Does anyone know who jjgold really is?

[bigboydan]

Does anyone know who jjgold really is?

Everyone knows JJgold is a high roller from Newark who wears furs,aquarium shoes, and listens to the Bay City Rollers on the ole 8 track blaring in his van when he's going thru the drive thru of the all night liquor store.

[compaqDikk]

reading my first JJGold post in Fall of '03 brought tears to my eyes (his hour by hour account of what he did in a normal day). probably 20X better than sex

[austintx05]

thats just fukin weird

[Mudcat]

JJ has nothing to do with "The Industry." He draws attention to himself with ghosts and a few kiddies on forums get sucked in.

I have been betting for a living for 4.5 years and I have been in contact with many professionals that whole time. The idea that any of those clever, creative, hard-working people would be looking to jjgold for industry information is beyond ludicrous. It would be like Eric Clapton looking to Paris Hilton for tips on the music industry.

[BuddyBear]

I wrote this before so I think it worth writing again. Trust me fellows JJ is a good guy. He knows his stuff....he plays dumb like he has no idea what he is doing. It's like the movie Usual Suspects....it's JJ who is getting the last laugh and you guys are the suckers who think otherwise.

When I first started posting I was very turned off by him and got into a lot of fights with him. Seemed like he was wasting his time all day with meaningless threads and posts....but some time after he stopped posting at SBR, I had an opportunity re-read some of his writings on gaming theory and found them brilliant and way of ahead of his times. The guy certainly has a knack for irritating people, not sure if this is deliberate or not, but reflecting on his contributions to the gaming industry there is no way that you can't consider this guy a luminary the likes of which we won't see for some time. I would probably consider him one of the top two or three gaming posters of our generation, a sort of gaming forum poster pioneer. I would say that when he posts pay very careful attention to what he has to say because his advice is not unconditional.

[MrX]

I had an opportunity re-read some of his writings on gaming theory and found them brilliant and way of ahead of his times.

Examples, please.

[tacomax]

Examples, please.

As Buddybear said, jjgold is way ahead of his time. He has produced a number of theories which fly in the face of all current mathematical and statistical opinion - just like any revolutionary scientist he's finding new angles against the current consensus. Take his theory on the martingale system:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...tml?#post16292
Do YOU think you can profit using...

Either he's way ahead of his time and producing a new theory which is against all current thinking. Or conversely, he talks out of his arse. In order to help you with your decision, bear in mind that raiders thinks that martingale is a "100% winning system" as well.

[JBC77]

You guys are really putting jj over the barrel here. The man is a dedicated poster, a throw back to goodfellas of sorts. The man is to be regarded as a legend in the halls of online gambling forums. You either hate him or love him.

[jjgold]

Guys I can call any top offshore book and get the gambling heads instantly. They all know me well, I have moved for Walters, had my own syndicate and of course booked in Vegas legally. My outlaw lines are very respected, I am somewhat flamboyant and love to flirt and show myself off which at times irks people, some guys don't like that I am in tune with myself and comfortable in all situations. Like many other pros I have had bad losing times and nice winning times.

I have lived in different places from Mansions to Basements and hung with all the big timers from Barry Manilow to walking the streets of CR with Mickey of Cris with my mink on. I have butted heads with top forum owners and book owners alike.

You will not see guys like me and Sick Gambler every again, both posting pioneers and both very dedicated to this profession. I do move players pretty good from book to book with my posts if needed and have been compared to Ross Perot.

My home base is Newark and hang with lots of Brothers and Italians and a legend with kids around the area . The hookers love me as do the pimps. I am good looking and sharp dressing most of the time. My favorite thing to do is get kids out of school and then we go the track in my van and have fun gambling all day.

The legend stories are true about me going on rooftops and throwing at bazooka bubble gum to kids, wearing my bow-an-arrow uniform in the streets of Newark, hitting baseballs off buildings to figure wind direction to get an edge and of course the great grab ass games we have had in locker rooms.

I love you guys and spend most of my time on forums and trying to groom some of my young friends to carry the torch one day. We are trying to get into more videos now to send our messages out.

I know the industry inside and out and my book ratings are the best in the world

[The Heim]

"They all know me well, I have moved for Walters, had my own syndicate and of course booked in Vegas legally."


I'm not sure if more people attended Wilt's 100 point game or
moved money for Billy Walters....

They all sound convincing but highly unlikely....

[jjgold]

Heim call SBR John, He will tell you all about me

[gridironguy]

people like attention whores

I've only been posting here for a month, but have posted a pretty fair amount as you can see. But even though I'm a newbie, when I've had a question in my thread title about the industry, PDA's, etc, JJ has typically come in and shared valuable information.

I think he has fun and might play things up here or there, but when it comes down to it, if you have a question and he knows the answer, I believe he will come into the thread, answer your question to help you, and do it genuinely.

That's my impression of JJ, and I'm glad he posts and really hope he continues to do so for a long while... He brings pizzazz (how about that word) and great info to a sports-wagering forum..

[jjgold]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxntEMqA_w0

[BigBollocks]

LOL, great video JJ! He discusses most of the posters in this thread. Fair warning ahead of time: he gets pretty serious when discussing Dark Horse and Santo, and it appears the feelings between he and Mudcat are mutual

[Senator7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxntEMqA_w0

Thanks JJ, you're awesome too.

I just can't figure you out sometimes, my friend.

[zootiehead]

We love you jj.

[NaturalLight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdV827A55f8

[rjt721]

What happened to the wig?

[zootiehead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdV827A55f8

Gambling and sex go together. Thats' the only way your forum will make it.

[raiders72002]

JJGold, Sickgambler and machiavelli are the 3 sharpest forum posters of all time.

[Halo]

reading my first JJGold post in Fall of '03 brought tears to my eyes (his hour by hour account of what he did in a normal day). probably 20X better than sex

Repost!

[raiders72002]

5:00AM Workout, jog like 5 minutes in my place, bench press a little (around 50lbs), 10 push-ups, 5 sit-ups, 10 curls (15lbs), throw the medicine ball around for another 5 or so/ .

5:45AM- Power breakfast, 2 eggs, 5 slices bacon, 10 slices tailor ham, a few sausages, glass of milk, a stick of oriole cookies

6:30 Shower and sing tunes for like a 1/2 hour. Usually then put on a jumpsuite and my chains and here is something new. I bought this shit that is suppose to make your rooster grow, so I throw some if on shaft and head. It is some type of powder. I do it everyday. Finally cement rug on and comb it and inspect it a lot.

7:15AM- Hit the forum, post some shit to my pupils

7:30AM- I make some calls for early wise guy plays around the country.

8:00Am Duke this kid down the hallway to get me the racing forms and every addition.

8:15AM- Usually a big timer from newark calls me seeing what is up.
The guy is trying to get me into a 3 card monte game outside. I don't leave my pad much.

8:40 Start reasearching the net and looking for edges, looking at line services and looking for bad / weak numbers . Make a few posts

9:45AM- I call the track starters at each track I am betting and look for angles to bet. I also have a few track clockers in my back pocket so I get good shit to bet.

10:15AM- Look out the window and shit and see whats up. I usually conduct most of my biz from the window and guys stand below to get assignments. I throw out usually bazookas gums to the kids for 5 minutes and these kids go fukkin wild battling for it. A ritual we have.
Make a few posts

10:45AM- Getting edgy, early race cards getting closer. I usually go play a hold-em game ($50/$100) for like an hour. I fuk around in there chatting and trying to pick up chicks. Or if not poker usually kids cut school and we play ps2 for a while.

11:45- Will look at a few porn magazines and dream. Also watch pron for a little bit and try and learn and get tips. Finally to cap off my sex hour I usually call the phone/chat lines ad talk to girls live and shit and they tell me what they want to do to me and everything. These girls sound really sexy too. Make a few posts

12:45 Pop some early doubles hard and get in my pick 4's. I have 4 cards usually in front of me and use only DRF paper addition

1:00 Bury some games and get good numbers. I usually move for a few Newark players too. Big lunch and usually have big macs everyday. The manager owes me so he delivers them

1:15PM- On the phone with Russ and telling him what books to watch fr and asking him where the early Canadian money is on. Boys you all wish you were as sharp as me. Make a few posts

1:30PM Usually these girls call back from the chat line wanting to talk nasty. We talk for like 10 minutes and then I tell them to fukkin bill me. They know I am big time so they like to call.

1:50 Betting still some ponies, make a few posts

2:30PM The HS kids come over and we eat and I let them bet with my horse accounts for a while. They all bring their own forms though and I supply only pretzles, chips, ice cream and soda. No smoking or drugs.

4:00PM Kids gone, make some calls to west coast and see what is up. Call sharks to make sure we are on same page. Pop pills for my paranois I developed. I have a few like thinking spiders are in every fukkin room, think my rug is loose or crooked, I do not like it dark. Always think raccoons are trying to get in, think my computer always crashes and finally fear of losing. I take shit for it though. Make a few posts

5:00 PM- kids yelling up to my window asking who I like and I give them games and amounts to bet and then they all run to walk up shops and put cash bets in. I also have dialogue with some locals from window and tellin them who to bet.

5:30 Again I throw bazooka bubble gum out the windows to the kids and give them like 100 pieces a session. This is so big now there are like 100 kids waiting for me to toss them out. What a fukkin battle to get gum. Make a few posts

6:00PM- the big players all come to my pad and we discuss the night and who we like and why. Secondly they always bring food and Italian it is.
Lots of sharps telling stories and all these guys on phone pounding games all over country.

7:15 Call Brett, Call Sportman,, Call Dimeplayers, action, action, action, post

7:30PM phone ringing constantly with info, on net banging plays

8:00 Snack, watch games, computer, ect and flip on porn a little.

8:40PM- post, poker, dance to some tunes

9:40 Hit the dating lines and leave lots of messages for women. I basically just say, strong, handsome, bear looking for my little cub to play with. It has not worked yet.

10:15PM Grade games, watch games, post, snack

11:00 Make contacts with sharks and workout payment plans, call locals, ect, post

12:00AM Play 3 card monte in hallway for an hour with neighbors

1:00AM Wrap up posting and i call a girl to chat sex with for a while, look at lines and stats, play video games.

2:00AM take my fukkin rug off and what a pain in the ass, glue all fukkin over and shit. I am cursing because it toes not come off easy. It usually takes like 30 minutes to get scalp clean and free of sticky glue becuase if not I pay for it in bed, My fukkin head sticks to the pillow and I get pissed off.

3:00AM watch porn and try to jack off if I can get it up. I usually pretend I am banging chick on tv, I out screen real close to me like I am there. I kind of pump bed

Eventually fall asleep for a little bit and back right at it.

Of course when i do go out I have to meet bookmakers and sharks but other than that I am home most of the time and I have guys on my payroll to get me everything.

[BigBollocks]

5:00AM Workout, jog like 5 minutes in my place, bench press a little (around 50lbs), 10 push-ups, 5 sit-ups, 10 curls (15lbs), throw the medicine ball around for another 5 or so/ .

5:45AM- Power breakfast, 2 eggs, 5 slices bacon, 10 slices tailor ham, a few sausages, glass of milk, a stick of oriole cookies

6:30 Shower and sing tunes for like a 1/2 hour. Usually then put on a jumpsuite and my chains and here is something new. I bought this shit that is suppose to make your rooster grow, so I throw some if on shaft and head. It is some type of powder. I do it everyday. Finally cement rug on and comb it and inspect it a lot.

7:15AM- Hit the forum, post some shit to my pupils

7:30AM- I make some calls for early wise guy plays around the country.

8:00Am Duke this kid down the hallway to get me the racing forms and every addition.

8:15AM- Usually a big timer from newark calls me seeing what is up.
The guy is trying to get me into a 3 card monte game outside. I don't leave my pad much.

8:40 Start reasearching the net and looking for edges, looking at line services and looking for bad / weak numbers . Make a few posts

9:45AM- I call the track starters at each track I am betting and look for angles to bet. I also have a few track clockers in my back pocket so I get good shit to bet.

10:15AM- Look out the window and shit and see whats up. I usually conduct most of my biz from the window and guys stand below to get assignments. I throw out usually bazookas gums to the kids for 5 minutes and these kids go fukkin wild battling for it. A ritual we have.
Make a few posts

10:45AM- Getting edgy, early race cards getting closer. I usually go play a hold-em game ($50/$100) for like an hour. I fuk around in there chatting and trying to pick up chicks. Or if not poker usually kids cut school and we play ps2 for a while.

11:45- Will look at a few porn magazines and dream. Also watch pron for a little bit and try and learn and get tips. Finally to cap off my sex hour I usually call the phone/chat lines ad talk to girls live and shit and they tell me what they want to do to me and everything. These girls sound really sexy too. Make a few posts

12:45 Pop some early doubles hard and get in my pick 4's. I have 4 cards usually in front of me and use only DRF paper addition

1:00 Bury some games and get good numbers. I usually move for a few Newark players too. Big lunch and usually have big macs everyday. The manager owes me so he delivers them

1:15PM- On the phone with Russ and telling him what books to watch fr and asking him where the early Canadian money is on. Boys you all wish you were as sharp as me. Make a few posts

1:30PM Usually these girls call back from the chat line wanting to talk nasty. We talk for like 10 minutes and then I tell them to fukkin bill me. They know I am big time so they like to call.

1:50 Betting still some ponies, make a few posts

2:30PM The HS kids come over and we eat and I let them bet with my horse accounts for a while. They all bring their own forms though and I supply only pretzles, chips, ice cream and soda. No smoking or drugs.

4:00PM Kids gone, make some calls to west coast and see what is up. Call sharks to make sure we are on same page. Pop pills for my paranois I developed. I have a few like thinking spiders are in every fukkin room, think my rug is loose or crooked, I do not like it dark. Always think raccoons are trying to get in, think my computer always crashes and finally fear of losing. I take shit for it though. Make a few posts

5:00 PM- kids yelling up to my window asking who I like and I give them games and amounts to bet and then they all run to walk up shops and put cash bets in. I also have dialogue with some locals from window and tellin them who to bet.

5:30 Again I throw bazooka bubble gum out the windows to the kids and give them like 100 pieces a session. This is so big now there are like 100 kids waiting for me to toss them out. What a fukkin battle to get gum. Make a few posts

6:00PM- the big players all come to my pad and we discuss the night and who we like and why. Secondly they always bring food and Italian it is.
Lots of sharps telling stories and all these guys on phone pounding games all over country.

7:15 Call Brett, Call Sportman,, Call Dimeplayers, action, action, action, post

7:30PM phone ringing constantly with info, on net banging plays

8:00 Snack, watch games, computer, ect and flip on porn a little.

8:40PM- post, poker, dance to some tunes

9:40 Hit the dating lines and leave lots of messages for women. I basically just say, strong, handsome, bear looking for my little cub to play with. It has not worked yet.

10:15PM Grade games, watch games, post, snack

11:00 Make contacts with sharks and workout payment plans, call locals, ect, post

12:00AM Play 3 card monte in hallway for an hour with neighbors

1:00AM Wrap up posting and i call a girl to chat sex with for a while, look at lines and stats, play video games.

2:00AM take my fukkin rug off and what a pain in the ass, glue all fukkin over and shit. I am cursing because it toes not come off easy. It usually takes like 30 minutes to get scalp clean and free of sticky glue becuase if not I pay for it in bed, My fukkin head sticks to the pillow and I get pissed off.

3:00AM watch porn and try to jack off if I can get it up. I usually pretend I am banging chick on tv, I out screen real close to me like I am there. I kind of pump bed

Eventually fall asleep for a little bit and back right at it.

Of course when i do go out I have to meet bookmakers and sharks but other than that I am home most of the time and I have guys on my payroll to get me everything.

I was looking for an old thread and found this one with JJ's schedule at the end. That is pure genious....

[austintx05]

he is loved by all books...they love taking his money