[Chi_archie]

Yankees
Marlins
White Sox
Giants
Cards


anyone I left out?

[tullamore]

Red Sox

[Chi_archie]

Red Sox

possibly, if Dice-K can get it back

[Chi_archie]

Nicky you don't know any player's c'mon pal who ya kidding

[Chi_archie]

you love MLB more than NHL?????

c'mon

[GiveMeaBJ]

Phillies no way, there back end is to soft.

Gotta say M's or Red Sox

Lester/Beckett/Lackey
Lee/Felix/Snell

Both great front 3's

[Chi_archie]

i can't even name you 1 college player in the last 12 yrs, no joke. ncaa is dead here in canada..

chances are that if you know all those NBA, NFL, MLB, and NHL players...... you know a few college players from the past 12 years....... .that's where 55% of them played before they were drafted into the pros

[Chi_archie]

snell???? c'mon

[lyon804]

Boston Redsox without a doubt.

[GiveMeaBJ]

Lol, chi...as I was typing Snell it didn't feel right but Lee and Felix make up for it.

[Chi_archie]

I'm thinking you guys don't realize that the Yanks have Javier vasquez now......

[tullamore]

I'm thinking you guys don't realize that the Yanks have Javier Lopez now......

Javier Vasquez

[clonecat]

Depends if the Marlins trade Josh Johnson.

Yankees are a clear #1

Starting 5 only matters in regular season, post season can go with 3 or 4 making Phillies look really good with Halladay, Hamels, Happ.

Not sold on Lackey, believe he will break down this year.

[tullamore]

The better question is which team has the better staff 1 -8.

You never go through a season with just 5 starters and make the playoffs.

Those fringe starters who can give you 7 or 8 starts over the season is the key to one teams success.

[Chi_archie]

too bad Happ didn't count for anything last post season

[Chi_archie]

The better question is which team has the better staff 1 -8.

You never go through a season with just 5 starters and make the playoffs.

Those fringe starters who can give you 7 or 8 starts over the season is the key to one teams success.

I don't believe that at all.... I'm more likely to go with the team with the strongest top 3-4 matters most.... 5-8 gets maybe 30-40 starts in a year.... and your offense/defense wins half of those no matter what if you are a contender

[Chi_archie]

bullpen is way more important than 5th starter and spot starts IMO...... especially considering a big part of your "spot" starts are bullpen guys anyways

[GiveMeaBJ]

Yea Yanks for name value is the best starting 5. But there are too many question marks and no one is lights out a full year. The staff is always overrated because of the run support they get. It's easy to pitch with a 4 run lead.

CC will break down eventually, throws too many pitches and to fat not to.
AJ is injury prone and has games where he looks like Oliver Perez.
Vazquez is an NL pitcher
Pettite is what 45 now? How long can he continue to get by with a 4.50 era?
Joba? Really.

Feel like I am forgetting someone.

[GiveMeaBJ]

Injuries happen it is a part of the game, but you can never ever count on a 6 or 7 starter. Ever.

[Chi_archie]

1-5 yanks starters are under 4 ERA career....... hard to beat...


CC will never break down c'mon

Vasquez was 15-8 with 3.74 era in the AL in 07 and don't tell me his 2.87 ERA last year in the NL counts for nothing

[tullamore]

bullpen is way more important than 5th starter and spot starts IMO...... especially considering a big part of your "spot" starts are bullpen guys anyways

I guess may point is that some of those bullpen guys can be your 5th starter. Last year with the Red Sox before he was traded Justin Masterson filled this role. At the end of the year Bucholtz was arguably the Red Sox best starter, and he started the year in the minors.

Look at the Yankees they won in the playoffs because of their top of the rotation pitchers. But they struggled early in the year, beause their rotation was a mess, dispite scoring a bunch of runs.

Depth get you to the playoffs. But with 1 or 2 Aces you can win in the playoffs.

[GiveMeaBJ]

You need 2 lockdown guys to win in the post season.

CC/AJ
Beckett/Lackey/Lester
Felix/Lee
Halladay/Hamels if he can get it together
Carpenter/Wainwright
Lincecum/Cain

Tough to beat those in a 5 or 7 game series.

[Chi_archie]

last year Boston had 37 starts by guys that were not "1-5" and the yanks had 32


I think it all evens out

[Chi_archie]

let's keep in mind that Hamels was not even a top 50 pitcher last year

[GiveMeaBJ]

Hamels right now is going on a bunch of minor league hype and one good year. How many times have we seen a kid come up be great then a few years he gets figured out and can't get back to his old self.

Personally, I don't like Hamels. I don't think he is an ace, more of a 3 to me.

[tullamore]

I personally have more faith in Happ than Hamels.

[philswin]

Hamels has a devastating Changeup and a fastball with a lot of movement needs to develop his 3rd pitch cant be just fastball changeup that is all he ever needed. Throws a curve but needs improvement if he gets there he will be awesome again. Happs number were unbelievable under 3.00 in that stadium not sure if he can maintain that he has been a late bloomer. Blanton is a pretty good 4 starter. Smoltz will probably be signed to compete for the 5th starter with Moyer and Kendrick

[philswin]

Happ should have started in playoffs over Pedro. Manager is a moron

[pavyracer]

Jurrjens
Hanson
Hudson
Lowe
Kawakami

[keyboarding]

Romero
Morrow
Marcum
McGowan
Cecil

Richmond
Drabek
Litsch
Janssen
Purcey
Rzepczynski

Mills
Tallet
Ray

Okay... maybe in a couple of years.

[Chi_archie]

wow, lots of varying opinions... half of MLB has been named it seems...... should be interesting to see how things work out by next sept