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Old 12-16-09, 04:29 PM   #1
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with no risk ( credit).

Improve the software.

There used to be an exchange called Mansion.

They allowed you to make something like 5X of your balance as offers.... of course not on the same bet.

I'd offer a lot more stuff with that feature, obscure stuff like 1st half of NBA that often goes unmatched. Maybe every total on CBB, stuff like that ! It would tighten the lines up.

Worked fine at Mansion. An accept kills some outstanding offers, so you're never over-extended.
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Old 12-16-09, 04:31 PM   #2
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Matchbook serves very little use for most sports

No volume and getting worse

Americans will never grasp the idea of this type of betting and i mean never
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Old 12-16-09, 04:39 PM   #3
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with no risk ( credit).

Improve the software.

There used to be an exchange called Mansion.

They allowed you to make something like 5X of your balance as offers.... of course not on the same bet.

I'd offer a lot more stuff with that feature, obscure stuff like 1st half of NBA that often goes unmatched. Maybe every total on CBB, stuff like that ! It would tighten the lines up.

Worked fine at Mansion. An accept kills some outstanding offers, so you're never over-extended.
Leveraged trading, I am afraid IS credit.

Someone who is 5X leveraged has a bad day, gets busted and has a negative balance of 4 times what he had. If he doesn´t pay..................
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Old 12-16-09, 04:40 PM   #4
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I love them, but there is room for improvement.

They are by far, my most important book.

JJ, certainly you can see the value betting there on major sports, but not opening lines.

Most importantly, I trust them.
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Old 12-16-09, 04:46 PM   #5
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Leveraged trading, I am afraid IS credit.

Someone who is 5X leveraged has a bad day, gets busted and has a negative balance of 4 times what he had. If he doesn´t pay..................
It doesn't work that way.

Say, I have $500 in my account.

I can offer $500 on five different games, once one is accepted, the other four offers are canceled.

Mansion was able to to this, years ago. No negative balance can occur the way Mansion did it.

The downfall is you might have to remake offers, once one is taken. I'd take that trade-off for virtual credit, which really isn't credit, as no money is loaned to me.

I want Fishhead's opinion on this.
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Old 12-16-09, 05:00 PM   #6
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It sounds like a great idea to me. No down side for Matchbook accept the cost of getting it set up.

The players can chose to use this feature if they want. So no down side for anyone.

Matchbook has been a low cost type of set up. They don't make innovations. That way they don't charge a high %.
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It doesn't work that way.

Say, I have $500 in my account.

I can offer $500 on five different games, once one is accepted, the other four offers are canceled.

Mansion was able to to this, years ago. No negative balance can occur the way Mansion did it.

The downfall is you might have to remake offers, once one is taken. I'd take that trade-off for virtual credit, which really isn't credit, as no money is loaned to me.

I want Fishhead's opinion on this.
OK Gotcha! Interesting.
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Matchbook serves very little use for most sports

No volume and getting worse

Americans will never grasp the idea of this type of betting and i mean never
jjgold, for the sharps its a must out. I understand you not needing them. When you bet $20 a game, paying juice does not bother you.
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Old 12-16-09, 05:16 PM   #9
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Matchbook has become irrelevant with forum players. Nicky blacklisted it and I trust him. They have no volume and it takes a degree to figure out the site. I do not know how to get money in or out. I do not want to bother. I have too many other outs
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Old 12-16-09, 05:23 PM   #10
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Its weird how people don't mind paying -110.
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Old 12-16-09, 05:24 PM   #11
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This was really Cool at Mansion. Limit was something like 4-5 X balance, 100X would be ridurous.

Say you had $1000 at Mansion, you could offer like $100 on 50 different CFB sides/totals, when 10 match, the other 40 cancel ( you have no money left).

It would for sure tighten lines, no real credit risk.

It's doable, done by Mansion years ago.

MB just needs smarter software, and they can do it, to! Way better than giving credit !

This should be there, already !
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Old 12-16-09, 05:26 PM   #12
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I'm an old school gambler I pay -110. If I am at a book that offers less juice like Heritage and 5 Dimes I play reduced Juice but Matchbook is not on my Radar and never will be. Ask JJ how he feels about Matchbook.
It is too stockmarket for me TOO Europe for me TOO confusing for me. Don't have time to cut through red tape. I have winners to pick and gambling to do. The process should be Kindergarten like.
DUMB IT DOWN
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Old 12-16-09, 05:28 PM   #13
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Matchbook has become irrelevant with forum players. Nicky blacklisted it and I trust him. They have no volume and it takes a degree to figure out the site. I do not know how to get money in or out. I do not want to bother. I have too many other outs

Understanding MB lines is not difficult, monies in can be a bit tough, best to transfer from another book. Monies out are easy.
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Old 12-16-09, 05:40 PM   #14
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I'm an old school gambler I pay -110. If I am at a book that offers less juice like Heritage and 5 Dimes I play reduced Juice but Matchbook is not on my Radar and never will be. Ask JJ how he feels about Matchbook.
It is too stockmarket for me TOO Europe for me TOO confusing for me. Don't have time to cut through red tape. I have winners to pick and gambling to do. The process should be Kindergarten like.
DUMB IT DOWN
I am beginning to see what you are up against on the other side of the pond Chuck.

These people deserve to bust out.
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Old 12-16-09, 05:45 PM   #15
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I bleed red white and blue pal. I'm sorry if I don't like Matchbook or Market betting. Not my thing
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Old 12-16-09, 06:03 PM   #16
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still dont understand why matchbook is not more popular, and mansion used to be even bettor. If you bet mlb must have matchbook. and liquidity is getting worse.
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Not sure how being an American equates to stupidity. BurtRapp, it is great you are old school but you throw away money every day. Matchbook is not hard to figure it out, a retarded mule can understand it. If you dont want to make offers all you have to do is bet. It is exactly like all other books you bet with, point and click, except with this magical place, you will win more money when you win and conceivably, lose less, when you lose. Not sure how Matchbook is European, it does not drink red wine when it is 11, it does wear deodorant, it does not wear a Speedo.
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I bleed red white and blue pal. I'm sorry if I don't like Matchbook or Market betting. Not my thing
Whatever floats your boat. I am certainly not going to try and sell it to you but you are costing yourself red white and blue $$ by not taking half an hour at most to familiarise yourself with exchange betting.
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I'm an old school gambler I pay -110. If I am at a book that offers less juice like Heritage and 5 Dimes I play reduced Juice but Matchbook is not on my Radar and never will be. Ask JJ how he feels about Matchbook.
It is too stockmarket for me TOO Europe for me TOO confusing for me. Don't have time to cut through red tape. I have winners to pick and gambling to do. The process should be Kindergarten like.
DUMB IT DOWN
Pick a side, pick an amount, click sumbit, click OK.
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Old 12-16-09, 06:41 PM   #20
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Matchbook better doing something and FAST
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Old 12-17-09, 01:38 AM   #21
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direct deposits via ** and ** would be good.
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I bleed red white and blue pal. I'm sorry if I don't like Matchbook or Market betting. Not my thing
+100 or -110
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Old 12-17-09, 07:22 AM   #23
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It is a good idea, Doug. I remember it at Mansion, and it just made sense to increase market volumes.
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Pick a side, pick an amount, click sumbit, click OK.
Too complicated. DUMB IT DOWN!!

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Old 12-17-09, 08:05 AM   #25
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Matchbook has become irrelevant with forum players. Nicky blacklisted it and I trust him. They have no volume and it takes a degree to figure out the site. I do not know how to get money in or out. I do not want to bother. I have too many other outs
Yikes. No liquidity? Takes a degree to learn how to use the software? Well, yeah, I guess a highschool degree maybe.

All you squares never cease to amaze me sometimes.
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Not sure how Matchbook is European, it does not drink red wine when it is 11, it does wear deodorant, it does not wear a Speedo.
And Matchbook is not unionized, constantly on vacation, or taking a nap when you are calling customer service

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Old 12-17-09, 09:42 AM   #28
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burty, you really are throwing money in the toilet each time you don't bet at matchy.. its' really not that hard. even if you never make offers and only bet like you are betting anywhere else, you will save. and that's not hard to do. it's like any other book. take 3 min to learn it and you'll save a bundle. you don't even need 3 min.. it's like all the books.. you see a line, click it. .that's it. .and pay the 1%.. still a much better deal than 5 dimes, and even pinny at times.....you really do need matchy..

btw, i played at mansion forever.. and i used to looooooooooooove the hell out of that book. the #'s i was getting were unbelievable. when i found out they were gone, i literally cried..
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Matchbook serves very little use for most sports

No volume and getting worse

Americans will never grasp the idea of this type of betting and i mean never
More genius from the village idiot.
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Old 12-17-09, 11:09 AM   #30
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i miss mansion.
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Most USA bettors are traditional sportsbook wagerers and that is why you will never ever see high volume at Matchbook.

Matchbook caterers to internet and gambling savy bettors only.

A square for the most part is not going to play at matchbook,
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Old 12-17-09, 08:08 PM   #32
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I love MB, requested a check and got them two days later. A lot faster then Bookmaker
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My favorite book even though there are more scalpers than players.
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Old 12-17-09, 09:35 PM   #34
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Matchbook is a must Have!! Every single gambler should have matchbook because it is very easy to use. In my opinion it is simpler than most books to place a wager and obviously you the odds are better. Transfer money in via sportsbook transfer! 5 Dimes will transfer money to Matchbook FREEEEEEEE! No charge on Matchbook Side either.
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Seriously, this whole American thing and Matchbook is lame. I don't understand whats so hard about matchbook. It has ML, Spread etc like every basic book. The money next to the number is the available money at that odd, correct? I miss matchbook.
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