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    Default Let's push *******

    Since Neteller has now officially left the US and N. America, for those of us serious about gaming, we need the books to pick up a new processor. I’ve scoured the internet looking at options, and it seems the best one out there right now is http://www.*******.com . I’ve heard that they just upgraded their servers last week due to increased visitors. They have been in business since 2000 and I have not heard of any complaints. They are not as convenient as Neteller because you must use a wire, but once your money is there, they seem to operate exactly the same. Unfortunately, only a few books use them. I think we should encourage books to start taking them. They are as cheap as neteller and moneybookers and they take US and especially Canadian users. Let’s market ******* to the books.



    Anyways, if you have time, please send an email to as many sportsbooks as possible encouraging them to start using *******.com. Below is a list of just about every relevant books email – feel free to add.



    service@bodog.com, csd@betonline.com, mktg@betonline.com, help@betdirect.net, support@customerservices365.com, helpdesk@caribsports.com, csd@betcascade.com, customerservice@blsmailers.com, Charlie@wagerweb.com, service@838bet.com, service@goldengoosebets.com, scottm@betcris.com, csd@betcris.com, csd@betmaker.com, csd@2betdsi.com, csd@bookmaker.com, contact@beteagle.com, contact@baybets.com, service@actionbets.com, cs@betgoto.com, support@betgrande.com, help@beted.com, cs@betlaspalmas.com, support@ready2bet.com, mail@canbet.com, cservice@instantactionsports.com, customer_service@legendzsports.com, bet@intertops.com, customerservice@betplatinum.com, customerservice@betmania.com, customer@sportsgambling.com, support@skybook.com, customerservice@heritagesports.com, csd@10bet.com, support@bettrojan.com, help@ggc.co.cr, help@badlands.co.cr, help@sportbet.com, support@bet911.com, csd@betroyal.com, support@betjm.com, support@thegreek.com, support@sportsinteraction.com, help@justbet.com, customer.service@sbgglobal.com, info@5dimes.com, support@bluesq.com, service@stanjames.com, info@matchbook.com, ideas@matchbook.com, info@wsex.com, support.en@betoto.com, support.en@bwin.com, customerservice@bethorizon.com, csd@pinnaclesports.com, support@megasb.com, memberservice@mansion.com, customerservice@youwager.com, sports@vip.com, cservice@betmyline.com, support@nine.com, newaccount@betus.com, customerservice@betatlas.com, mark@betatlas.com, support@paddpower.com, cashier@sportsbook.com







    Bestline – must go to web form

    Jazzsports – must go to web form





    It would be best to draft your own text, but if feeling lazy, feel free to copy:




    Dear book,



    As you know, Neteller has now left the US and now more importantly Canadian market. Many of your customers would like to wager with you, but have become accustomed to Neteller’s convenience and probably will not want to start using bank wires, **, checks, etc to fund accounts. Thankfully, there is a company out there, who has been in business for 7 years and still welcomes US and Canadian residents. This company is http://www.*******.com. As someone who has either played at your book or interested in doing so, I ask that you look into accepting this company for money transfers. They have been in business for 7 years and I’ve never heard of any complaints. I am not affiliated with this company – just seeking a way to move money easily again. If you are not the person who would make these types of decisions, please forward this to the person who would. Thanks a bunch. If you guys start using these guys, I am sure I and many others will likely post up again soon.

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    Good to go at:

    USDbet
    Betempire
    Superiorbook

    Carib added it very recently (Maybe today).

    Olympic is looking into it.

    Matchbook has sent it to their accounting department and hopes to have it on the site soon.

    Comeon guys - email...

    Sean

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    Default LEt's push Ecohard

    very interstested in Eco issues, lets push them hard

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    I am impressed by your post. Obviously some thought and effort has gone into it.

    I'm sure I am having the same doubts as others. It would be hard to go into full-scale endorsement mode based on little more than the statement, I haven't heard any complaints. If ******* became more prominent, would they face the same pressures that have scuttled Neteller? I have no idea.

    But I find it good that you are taking a positive, pro-active approach. You have put ******* in a central place on my radar and I will look into it further.

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    I would not put my life's savings there, but they are worth a look.

    I read they only do wires as they are in Malta and Malta is not a party to US banking regulations/agreements (Can't take ***************/EFT). Kind of weird though since their IP is registered to Canada.

    In any case, more options is good and I didnt find any complaints on google.

    -Sean

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    The books picking them up is a good indication too...

    Carib.
    Olympic and Matchbook looking at it.
    And just in - Mansion has been happily using them for 2 years.

    Sean

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    Good post IOdds... I like the positive perspective on them... I looked into them somewhat and so far they look to be a solid idea....

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    Is there a fee to transfer funds to/from merchants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by increasedodds View Post
    I would not put my life's savings there, but they are worth a look.

    I read they only do wires as they are in Malta and Malta is not a party to US banking regulations/agreements (Can't take ***************/EFT). Kind of weird though since their IP is registered to Canada.

    In any case, more options is good and I didnt find any complaints on google.

    -Sean
    Looks like Latvia here...

    IP address: 217.21.162.164
    Reverse DNS: paris.eco2g.*******.com.
    Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified]
    ASN: 15721
    ASN Name: CTCO (C.T.CO. Ltd Autonomous System)
    IP range connectivity: 1
    Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
    Country (per IP registrar): LV [Latvia]
    Country Currency: Unknown
    Country IP Range: 217.21.160.0 to 217.21.175.255
    Country fraud profile: High
    City (per outside source): Unknown
    Country (per outside source): LV [Latvia]
    Private (internal) IP? No
    IP address registrar: whois.ripe.net
    Known Proxy? No
    Link for WHOIS: 217.21.162.164

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    I know little about them other than that they are outside the range of the US gov and by not using EFTs, have no need to have money in the US.

    Mansion's email to me helps me build some trust. I trust Mansion and if no problems in 2 years...


    "Hello Sean,

    Thank you for your email,

    Here at Mansion.com we already accept Eco-card and have happily been doing so for over 2 years,

    If you or any of your friends have or would like to open an account at Mansion.com we are more than happy to accept payments by *******.

    Kindest regards"

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    bookmaker now using them also

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    I signed up with them but still have not used them yet. After the NCAA Tournament is over I will make a withdrawl fro Superior boo and report back how it went.

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    Sounds good... Look forward to knowing. I am just in the process of getting going. The fact Mansion has used them for 2 years makes me think it should go ok.

    Sean

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    Sportsinteraction added.

    I would be willing to wager within 2 weeks 80% of books take these guys.

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    Actually, in light of Neteller's decision to drop Canadian customers, I stumbled across ******* today as I was frantically looking at alternate payment processors. They seem to be fairly well-entrenched at BetCris, and my initial feeling was that there seems to be some promising signs with regards to their company. Hope I'm right about that.....

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    Good points about good books using them

    stick to a money transfer system that top rated books use

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    Edit: I found the answer on their page.
    Last edited by freebie; 03-27-07 at 10:38 AM.

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    The following is part of an email message that ******* has sent to US customers:

    "IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR US LOCATED ******* CUSTOMERS:

    In response to recent publicity about the use of ******* for online gambling purposes ******* would like to draw its US located customers attention to the Terms of Service they have previously agreed to, and in particular, Section 8 – International Use, which clearly states;

    8.1. Recognizing the global nature of the Internet, you agree to comply with all local rules regarding online conduct and acceptable content. Specifically, you agree to comply with all applicable laws regarding the transmission of technical data exported from the country in which you reside. It is our assumption that international users are signing up for an ******* Account only after determining that opening and maintaining an ******* Account violates no laws or regulations in their respective country and jurisdiction. If you are an international user, you warrant that you are violating no law or regulation by your use of *******, and you indemnify us for any and all liability that might arise from your use of the Service."

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    I used this card two years ago to fund UK books because the card at that time wasn't tied to any address or even a name. They were focused on European and Asian market, but if they dont' collect personal information then anyone could use them.

    You have to be very careful with your user/pw/id as if you lose it, virtually impossible for them to reset since at that time wasn't tied to any name.

    I also used them to fund pointbet couple years ago. I funded the card via **.

    My information is outdated, but at the time I liked them.

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    I responded to the email.

    At this time, US members can still fund any transactions they want, but ******* wanted to let people know they "might" be breaking the law.

    This could of course change.

    In either case, it will not effect Canada.

    I doubt they are in Latvia because it is aworld banking headquarters...

    Sean

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    Default I have very bad experience with *******.

    I deposited money to my ******* account and after that my account is suspended and nobody answers to my emails.
    They have some stupid answering machine instead of live support. Do not go there.

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    I will pass

    sounds like a whore shit system

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  23. #23

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    Looks like Carib is accepting this payment method now.
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  24. #24

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    I promote ** only

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    that great there bigboydan, lets see if this method will be good come football season.

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    Lets see if it is around for football season and then maybe I will try.

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