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    Default Why pay fees?

    With the way books have jacked up their fees these days, it may be good to identify the remaining free routes.

    If you stick with the top books, you can have free book-to-book transfers, as well as free withdrawals.

    Example: move money from WSEX or Greek to Matchbook. No charge. Take money out of Matchbook. No charge (if you don't want to. Otherwise pay a little for Fedex).

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    tell that to CRIS

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    that is why you cannot win betting sports, juice + fees

    impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    tell that to CRIS
    Books that don't offer free book-to-book transfers just don't understand the present climate, in my opinion. Books that do, have a major edge. We need to know who they are.

    Just for the record, a book-to-book transfer I just did was at near Neteller speed.
    So kudos to Greek and Matchbook in this case!

    You know what. Instead of telling books that you'll post something bad about them on the forums, why not also single out the positives, like this, and even tell them you'll post that? A little goodwill goes a long way.
    Last edited by Dark Horse; 03-09-07 at 05:03 PM.

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    Why pay fees?
    Do you mean

    "why do Americans pay fees?"

    I don't pay any fees, please remember you are just one small part of the market.

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    Ignore list still shows the name?

    Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    Ignore list still shows the name?

    Huh.
    Who said that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_UK View Post
    Do you mean

    "why do Americans pay fees?"

    I don't pay any fees, please remember you are just one small part of the market.
    Then you must be a very small bettor. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    Then you must be a very small bettor. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

    How come Slash? The only US facing that I use are Pinny and Cris, both have 1 free withdrawal a month? that suits me.

    I may be a small bettor, my usual bet on UK football markets is around $1000-$1500 a bet, if I am small then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_UK View Post
    How come Slash? The only US facing that I use are Pinny and Cris, both have 1 free withdrawal a month? that suits me.

    I may be a small bettor, my usual bet on UK football markets is around $1000-$1500 a bet, if I am small then so be it.
    I would also like to add that Cris will only take $1500 of me on a handicap market, but Pinny will usually have up to about $4000 on the AH handi's

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    lol.

    What?

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    CRIS has free withdrawals every Friday only for a max of $2,500 using NETeller. And yes, you are a very small bettor, if you are scalping as you said earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    CRIS has free withdrawals every Friday only for a max of $2,500 using NETeller. And yes, you are a very small bettor, if you are scalping as you said earlier.

    Dont be a jerk, Cris will only take $1500 off me on the handicap? how do you propose I get more on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_UK View Post
    Dont be a jerk, Cris will only take $1500 off me on the handicap? how do you propose I get more on?
    I hadn't read your second post when I responded, but personally I would never waste time scalping asian handicaps if I couldn't get a minimum of $10k down, preferably $30k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    I hadn't read your second post when I responded, but personally I would never waste time scalping asian handicaps if I couldn't get a minimum of $10k down, preferably $30k.

    Fine, sorry I called you a jerk.

    I am an AH trader, its not my fault I cant get on with Cris over nights

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    I hadn't read your second post when I responded, but personally I would never waste time scalping asian handicaps if I couldn't get a minimum of $10k down, preferably $30k.
    Why's that..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShamsWoof10 View Post
    Why's that..?

    To Be honest Slashes post is a joke, cause you wont get on at that level if the line is an arb, you CAN trade that level with Pinny if you think the line will move, but that is different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_UK View Post
    To Be honest Slashes post is a joke, cause you wont get on at that level if the line is an arb, you CAN trade that level with Pinny if you think the line will move, but that is different
    LMFAO!!! And you claim to be a scalper/trader... I made some 20k scalp bets on CL this week (pinnacle had 20k limits at the time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    With the way books have jacked up their fees these days, it may be good to identify the remaining free routes.

    If you stick with the top books, you can have free book-to-book transfers, as well as free withdrawals.

    Example: move money from WSEX or Greek to Matchbook. No charge. Take money out of Matchbook. No charge (if you don't want to. Otherwise pay a little for Fedex).

    Getting back to the thread topic. I think sticking with wsex and matchbook as your two main books, you can do very well. With the ability to freely transfer money between the two, and their safety, you shouldn't have to withdrawl very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    LMFAO!!! And you claim to be a scalper/trader... I made some 20k scalp bets on CL this week (pinnacle had 20k limits at the time).
    Slash, we were talking about Cris, not out of your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    LMFAO!!! And you claim to be a scalper/trader... I made some 20k scalp bets on CL this week (pinnacle had 20k limits at the time).
    Lets be frank Slash, no you didnt, you are off in dream land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_UK View Post
    Lets be frank Slash, no you didnt, you are off in dream land.
    ok,

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    my dick is the biggest

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    ok,

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    18 1:45am
    7-Mar-07 7-Mar-07 Soccer
    Spread AC Milan vs Celtic FC (+1.5) for Game -113 11,300.00 10,000.00
    0 - 0 UEFA CL

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    Spread AC Milan vs Celtic FC (+1) for Game -113 11,300.00 10,000.00
    Slash there is no way that was at Cris with an out of line price.

    If you are trading a price with Pinny that is not out of line then OK

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    No, not CRIS. I didn't know that it had to be a scalp vs. CRIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    No, not CRIS. I didn't know that it had to be a scalp vs. CRIS.
    Not CRIS indeed, if you traded that AH at PINNY then respect.

    But that was not a CRIS AH arb

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    It was vs. a European faced book.

    Good night, gotta get a handjob and some sleep!

    Later...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie_UK View Post
    To Be honest Slashes post is a joke, cause you wont get on at that level if the line is an arb, you CAN trade that level with Pinny if you think the line will move, but that is different
    My point stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    It was vs. a European faced book.

    Good night, gotta get a handjob and some sleep!

    Later...

    No your are talking shit, if that was an arb you would not have got on for that money with a Euro book, if it was a trade then maybe betfair.

    Slash talking out of his arse in my opinion
    Last edited by Jamie_UK; 03-09-07 at 06:16 PM.

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    Jamie, got the other side at +115 for 20k. The Pinny side changed to -107 shortly after, so I hit the Euro book once again at +110. Not bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slash View Post
    Jamie, got the other side at +115 for 20k. The Pinny side changed to -107 shortly after, so I hit the Euro book once again at +110. Not bf.
    Slash you are talking shit, where did you get on the other side?

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    See, so much crap talked on internet forums, Slash, there is only one book you could have got the other side at those prices for the AH CL, you tell me what book it is or pi$$ off as another internet nobody

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    Canbet for example has such high limits if iam not wrong, and they are focusing mainly on non-US sports (they have high NBA limits too thou, so why not soccer even higher?).

    Why cant you belive that he got lucky and just saw this arb?
    10k scalps or more can be easily done with high bankrolls (i usually dont bet that much thou, cause i dont want too much attention and focus more on keeping my accounts long for average scalps), it isnt THAT uncommon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    Canbet for example has such high limits if iam not wrong, and they are focusing mainly on non-US sports (they have high NBA limits too thou, so why not soccer even higher?).

    Why cant you belive that he got lucky and just saw this arb?
    10k scalps or more can be easily done with high bankrolls (i usually dont bet that much thou, cause i dont want too much attention and focus more on keeping my accounts long for average scalps), it isnt THAT uncommon...
    Mate, I do it every phucking day, I know what limits just about every book that does football ah is at, Pinny is the exception and the bull shiter knows that, but if he got on AH at Pinny at those levels for an arb there is no phucking way he could have scalped out the other side, total bullshiter

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    Dude we are talking about a champions league game...why shouldnt big books have high limits on big games?

    Man it is possible to throw 5k at books like wsex on every lousy NBA game spread..and champs league is so much bigger than that.

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