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Old 11-13-09, 01:12 AM   #1
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There is a reason that they make millions off of losers. They have the edge always. You can scalp sure, you can be a pro and dedicate your entire life to it and maybe go 51.5%. Pros here making nice livings like Nicky, Fish, jj, amongst others, sure. It boils down to them though having no life. They don't go out, banged up, jjgold hasn't seen a Saturday night out in 16 years. It takes a toll.


My question though, with odds being 50/50, how does everyone happen to lose?
Sure I will have the banged up fukks hopping in here telling me I don't know what I am talking about blah blah fukkin blah. They are wealthy off of gambling etc. Unreal. I am seasoned in the industry, I know what goes on, most are like Brock Landers.



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Old 11-13-09, 01:13 AM   #2
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if you play within your means

win somtimes, lose a bit more


Gambling is worth is long term, for the excitement/recreation it brings
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Old 11-13-09, 01:14 AM   #3
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No life = having no $$$
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Old 11-13-09, 01:15 AM   #4
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if you play within your means win somtimes, lose a bit more Gambling is worth is long term, for the excitement/recreation it brings
You're an exception. Some get that taste of blood and crave more and end up with nothing. Archie, what would we be doing right now if we weren't compulsive gamblers? The 15k times you posted, what would you have been doing? My 9k, what would I be doing? Sometimes I ask if I am spinning my wheels. I should bury my PC all together and walk away.
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Old 11-13-09, 01:16 AM   #5
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For me it's a hobby ...I have my rules I stick to them....Im not losing promise
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Old 11-13-09, 01:16 AM   #6
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No life = having no $$$

Do you know how much money has funded off shore books from this board alone. I bet lifetime the figures are close to 100 mil. total in lives here.


-100,000,000
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=Net 40,000,000 profit
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Old 11-13-09, 01:17 AM   #7
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There is a reason that they make millions off of losers. They have the edge always. You can scalp sure, you can be a pro and dedicate your entire life to it and maybe go 51.5%. Pros here making nice livings like Nicky, Fish, jj, amongst others, sure. It boils down to them though having no life. They don't go out, banged up, jjgold hasn't seen a Saturday night out in 16 years. It takes a toll. My question though, with odds being 50/50, how does everyone happen to lose? Sure I will have the banged up fukks hopping in here telling me I don't know what I am talking about blah blah fukkin blah. They are wealthy off of gambling etc. Unreal. I am seasoned in the industry, I know what goes on, most are like Brock Landers. And if you're wondering my YTD figures are Record: 226 - 201 - 9 Percent: 52.93 %

The only way to win is to bet the numbers not the teams. Most of us bet for action or for entertainment. The few that win long-term, win because they put the time in, and are selective.

Warren Buffett said "The stock market is a no-called-strike game. You don't have to swing at everything--you can wait for your pitch. The problem when you're a money manager is that your fans keep yelling, 'Swing, you bum!'

Buffett's comments apply just the same to gambling.
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Old 11-13-09, 01:18 AM   #8
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everyone happens to lose because of juice. If you hit 50% on the season, but paid at -110 every game, then the juice will be killing you. you'd need to hit 55% to break even.
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Old 11-13-09, 01:19 AM   #9
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13k out of the 15k, i'd be needing to be in front of a computer typing somthing anyways.... but the thrill from betting an nfl team on tuesday when you think the line is lowest, lasts for 4-5 days.

its all relative, not many here are slaves to their computers, some are..... I enjoy the breaks from real life work needs, since I'm my own boss and don't have to look over my shoulder
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everyone happens to lose because of juice. If you hit 50% on the season, but paid at -110 every game, then the juice will be killing you. you'd need to hit 55% to break even.
Very true...

Also, when the line is Pho +7.5 and the score is 121-102 LAL, you can't cap a defeat that large. The is uncappable.

NBA this season thus far has been a debacle. Lines all way off.
NHL season long debacle.
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Do you know how much money has funded off shore books from this board alone. I bet lifetime the figures are close to 100 mil. total in lives here. -100,000,000 +60,000,000 =Net 40,000,000 profit

What's your point If you want to live an avg life and die avg then quit gambling. NOTHING beats a hot run at gambling and being KING OF THE HILL
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Old 11-13-09, 01:21 AM   #12
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anywho, I don't mind losing a few grand in any given year, to pay for the ET value
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What's your point If you want to live an avg life and die avg then quit gambling. NOTHING beats a hot run at gambling and being KING OF THE HILL
I rather get laid.
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Old 11-13-09, 01:22 AM   #14
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What's your point If you want to live an avg life and die avg then quit gambling. NOTHING beats a hot run at gambling and being KING OF THE HILL
You know what beats it? Seeing your children grow up. Seeing your bills paid on time, not hiding anything from family. Not sneaking into the bathroom when your in-laws are present.

Sammy, most don't make money off of gambling. We would all just quit life and gamble our balls off and buy the world if that were the case. We gamble because its a "gamble" we gamble for the unknown, the rush, the possibilities.
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Old 11-13-09, 01:22 AM   #15
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Yeah, when i get ahead, i start to handicap less seriously, and end up losing my profits usually.
The juice takes its toll when you bet big. You win a huge bet and you only really win a lot less than you bet, then you lose another big one, and then you lost all that.

But yeah, it's tough. You have to be a real degen and chill in the books all day every day for 12-13 hours and do it, and then its still tough to get ahead.

Plus you're solid bets can get buried from your fun bets. So, its tough to win.
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My question though, with odds being 50/50, how does everyone happen to lose?
One of lifes great mysteries for sure. I find it amazing that gamblers can go on unlimited 4-16 runs (on 50/50 bets) yet 16-4 runs are so elusive.

No doubt gambling can be a frustrating activity.
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I rather get laid.
A gambler can do that too , and when running good can do it better than most
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Old 11-13-09, 01:23 AM   #18
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if I were to ever have to depend upon gambling in any way/shape/ or form to be the "ticket" to "happiness in my next life, i'd be very close to suicide....... c'mon
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remember that one poster, that all the sudden struck it rich and became super happy with his life?
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You know what beats it? Seeing your children grow up. Seeing your bills paid on time, not hiding anything from family. Not sneaking into the bathroom when your in-laws are present.

Sammy, most don't make money off of gambling. We would all just quit life and gamble our balls off and buy the world if that were the case. We gamble because its a "gamble" we gamble for the unknown, the rush, the possibilities.

Hey... just quit then and never make another bet. I wish you the best.
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I applaud the seriousness you gents are taking this, thanks.
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Old 11-13-09, 01:26 AM   #22
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you guys need to get out and get laid
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You know what beats it? Seeing your children grow up. Seeing your bills paid on time, not hiding anything from family.
I tried the "square" or straight way of living but inevitably got bored silly and returned to the degenerate way of life.
It definitely has its ups and downs, more downs than ups but thats what makes the ups feel so good.
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Hey... just quit then and never make another bet. I wish you the best.
It's an addiction. We gamble because of the "feeling". We don't gamble to get rich. If you think you're getting rich you're kidding yourself pal. You're getting hood rich if anything.
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Duece, i disagree. Just because you turn a profit or make money gambling doesn't mean you are a wizard and sportsbooks are an atm. But you can still get some quick cash and build a bankroll to get you through months. I was rollin from july until recently off sports betting, now i've cooled off and am working a bit.
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you guys need to get out and get laid


Back to the topic of discussion. I do get laid. It's a debatable topic we're talking about in this thread. Go back to the Private Zone you jackal.
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Deuce , you should stop gambling now
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Old 11-13-09, 01:29 AM   #28
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Back to the topic of discussion. I do get laid. It's a debatable topic we're talking about in this thread. Go back to the Private Zone you jackal.
These threads are dead and i wanted my 6 sbr points so **** off hahahah
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Deuce , you should stop gambling now
Sammy,

Every day you get out of bed put your shoes on and hop into the car you're gambling. Life's a gamble pal.
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So, there you go, i won my lakers second half bet. I knew they would cover +.5 -115, because of nights and nights of chilling in a book watching these games and capping it. Its a lot of time i guess wasted, but its still cool to be good at this.
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Sammy, Every day you get out of bed put your shoes on and hop into the car you're gambling. Life's a gamble pal.
I go back to my 1st question then , what is your point?
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These threads are dead and i wanted my 6 sbr points so **** off hahahah
Unilawaferatatime is correct in proving somthing here I think
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Old 11-13-09, 01:33 AM   #34
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I go back to my 1st question then , what is your point?
I asked the question in post #1...

Why is it that more gamblers are -50% rather than +50% when in reality it's a 50/50 game. Disregard juice.
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Cuber,

Nice hit guy.
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