[austintx05]

During the course of the NBA season, I have been tracking results based on opening/closing lines. What I am curious about is what is the REAL opener?

Using SBR/DonBest/Wagerline...I can find out what the offshore opener is...

Using vegasinsider..I can find out what the LVSC opener is...

I am under the assumption that LVSC is the REAL opener...I am assuming that they open the line first then offshore....but do I have my wires crossed? Is it the other way around?

Any feedback would be helpful..

Thank You

[Wheell]

It isn't 100% but I'd say the public can bet online before they can bet in Vegas. Pinn and TheGreek are both favorites over the brick and mortar field.

[austintx05]

For example. Tonight's NBA Charlotte @ Seattle

Vegas Insider shows LVSC opener was Seattle -7
CRIS was the first to open this morning offhosre Seattle -9.5

So what is the REAL opener?

[austintx05]

anyone?

[RickySteve]

CRIS, Pinnacle and Kenny White all open independently.

[Lucas]

austin i would say that the LSVC has openers before pinny, and before pinny comes greek and cris but usually not sooner than LSVC

my locals have lines for NBA 1-2 days before LSVC, but there are only MLs and they screw you on vig incredibly and they can not be called liquid market, i hope it helps

[pags11]

I was just reading their website the other day (lvsc.com)...they look nerdy, but their a sharp group of guys...

[Jay Edgar]

CRIS and Greek usually open within an hour of each other, at somewhere between 3-5 PM eastern. In the NBA, even when Pinny was Pinny, Greek and CRIS were first. I don't care what LVSC says and when, the Greek/CRIS numbers are almost certainly the first numbers that people can bet real money into. Those numbers often jump a point or more within minutes, especially on totals.

The bigger question is: you say you "have been tracking." What have you learned? Enquiring minds want to know.

I've said here a couple of times in here that somebody with some time and ambition should go back and track the NBA totals that move a point or more at CRIS within the first 10 minutes. That's easily available at SBR Odds on a daily basis, and I think Vegas Insider has them historically.

(Sadly, appropros of DH and the Spirolina, VI does not include the Greek as part of its offshore tracking.)

[austintx05]

Jay - I am trying to keep it under wraps for now. This is why I am trying to determine the REAL opener.