[MOST]

I know that there have been a ton of posts since this whole nightmare started a few months back. But I think enough time has gone by to get some new threads started with March updates on the sites that we can now trust (to whatever extent that is), or the sites that we used to trust, but can't.

With baseball coming up, I know that I was planning to play big with Cascade. I also know that it was one of the big question marks in terms of reliability in the last two months. Can players who have been paid, have been lied to, etc. please post their experiences over the last few weeks. And can moderators and the vets on the forum give their take on the situation.

What is the deal? Is Cascade a place where you can start a decent size balance and trust that you will get paid?

[mely]

Bill Dozer... Can you please follow up on my payout. I requested a payout on January 30th. I've been calling them for about 3 weeks. I always look for Lenny or Richard but they are not available all the time. My account is TC5697.

[ShamsWoof10]

how much was your payout for..? I was going to reload but reconsidering now... three weeks is one thing but over a month and avoiding calls is NOT good...

Please keep us up to date

[slash]

Cascade is done.

[pags11]

cascade is on shaky ground with me...I hope they make it until next football season...

[bigboydan]

Bill Dozer... Can you please follow up on my payout. I requested a payout on January 30th. I've been calling them for about 3 weeks. I always look for Lenny or Richard but they are not available all the time. My account is TC5697.

First off, Welcome to the SBR forum

If you haven't sent us an email and details yet. Please send us one at: Assistance@SportsbookReview.com to better assist you with this matter mely.

[pokerking]

Cascade is stiffing and slow-paying numerous people. Why would anybody want to post-up when you have to worry if Lenny will decide to pay you.

[sabe]

I have set up an account with them around 6 months ago when I started this whole thing. A few days after setting up my account with them, I received phone calls from one of their agents who was apparently assigned to my account wondering when I will start to fund my accounts. I told him that I will fund my accounts prior to placing my bets. In reality, I didn't really feel like playing at Cascade since their were pretty crappy, as the odds at pinny were much sweeter.

Anyways, it was a couple of months back when this particular agent did not work for Cascade anymore, and apparently he took the customer list from Cascade and try to start networking with prior customers. He now works for BetEZ and Bet911, however I got a sick hunch in my stomach that BetEZ was a scam book. This particular agent peppered my phone 4 times a day trying to get me to sign on. When I tried to return the calls multiple times, each operators on the other line refuses to identity that a) they are a sportsbook, and b) which sportsbook they are.

Anyways, I don't think I will be playing at Cascade anytime soon, I just don't trust how they handled my information.

[Dark Horse]

Guardian was just upgraded to B+. May use them later this year, depending on the state of the industry. I would like to see them combine their -105 and 10% interest programs.

Edit - just noticed they have a $250 limit for -105 juice. Seems very low.

[dialilas]

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[WWTSblows]

I always want to try out cascade. Then, I come here and read another bad report and am reminded why I never sign up there.

[Bill Dozer]

Guardian was just upgraded to B+. May use them later this year, depending on the state of the industry. I would like to see them combine their -105 and 10% interest programs.

Edit - just noticed they have a $250 limit for -105 juice. Seems very low.

They used to have -105 up to $500 on everything. Now it's kind of a promo with $250 max and not on key foots numbers. Still great value to get a bases total at 105.

[Bill Dozer]

I have set up an account with them around 6 months ago when I started this whole thing. A few days after setting up my account with them, I received phone calls from one of their agents who was apparently assigned to my account wondering when I will start to fund my accounts. I told him that I will fund my accounts prior to placing my bets. In reality, I didn't really feel like playing at Cascade since their were pretty crappy, as the odds at pinny were much sweeter.

Anyways, it was a couple of months back when this particular agent did not work for Cascade anymore, and apparently he took the customer list from Cascade and try to start networking with prior customers. He now works for BetEZ and Bet911, however I got a sick hunch in my stomach that BetEZ was a scam book. This particular agent peppered my phone 4 times a day trying to get me to sign on. When I tried to return the calls multiple times, each operators on the other line refuses to identity that a) they are a sportsbook, and b) which sportsbook they are.

Anyways, I don't think I will be playing at Cascade anytime soon, I just don't trust how they handled my information.

Do you remember the first name of the Cascade and Bet911 employee?

[jjgold]

It seems like Cascade has really slipped

[Bill Dozer]

Bill Dozer... Can you please follow up on my payout. I requested a payout on January 30th. I've been calling them for about 3 weeks. I always look for Lenny or Richard but they are not available all the time. My account is TC5697.

Hi Mely,
Can you shoot me an email at Bill@sportsbookreview.com? I sent Lenny an email about your account today.

[freebie]

I'm with BetGuardian now. YOu can get -105 or 10% or 20% rebate crap. Anyway it's either or and not both.

Betguardian puts their line up super late and not all CBB are available, just some popular games or TV games

They don't use cents (just like Betcris) just whole numbers.

1 free cashier check or wire each calendar month. You can only make 1 withdraw a week and no more.

[ShamsWoof10]

Man I hope this dude gets his money.. Well if it will make you feel better Richard used to work at Royal and a few years back and I had built my acct. weeeellll past 10K and I got SLOW PAY treatment with notihng for over a month... I don't know for sure if it was Bill but someone from this forum communicated with him and I did get my money back over some time... I would imagine those guys would try and salvage what was a reputable book... I say don't get too implusive but keep pushing and I think everything will be fine.. Do keep threating bad publicity though and follow through if they keep dickin around...

Good luck dude...

[Chuck Sims]

A poster is reporting his buddy is getting stiffed by Cascade for $85,000. Here is the quote: "Lenny still owes my buddy 85000-basically they had a weekly "deal" on a payout. Lenny has missed 4 weeks in a row-and now says Go F yourself."

Avoid Cascade or you might be next.

[pokerking]

A poster is reporting his buddy is getting stiffed by Cascade for $85,000. Here is the quote: "Lenny still owes my buddy 85000-basically they had a weekly "deal" on a payout. Lenny has missed 4 weeks in a row-and now says Go F yourself."

Avoid Cascade or you might be next.

I know of somebody who is being stiffed for a 6 figure balance now by Lenny.

[LGBoots]

A friend of mine was paid by Cascade within 5 mins of his Neteller request yesterday.

[rolemand]

They don't use cents (just like Betcris) just whole numbers.

Not true.. they round UP.

[sabe]

Bill: His name is Andre, also goes by 'Dre.
He was the accounts manager over at Cascade.

He now works for BetEZ and Bet911.

[jtmarti1]

Sabe -

That same guy called me too. His name was Andre. He took my account info from Cascade & tried to get me to sign up w/ some sportsbooks I have never heard of. He said the books were credit accounts & payouts would be done through neteller (before neteller refused US service). I sure wish Cascade knew how to keep member profiles private.

[sabe]

He told me that he has credit accounts, which I refused... he then followed up with a call saying that they can't take in credit accounts.

His BetEZ can't take in Neteller, but he was mentioning that his Bet911 takes it in. But I got a bad feeling in my gut, so I say no go.

But yeah, not liking how Cascade handle customer information big time.

[Bill Dozer]

Thanks Sabe. Yes, BetEZ appears to be credit.

[kato]

It seems like Cascade has really slipped

sharp call jj