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    Apparently Betfair is the number 1 exchange in the world, however in pucks there seems to be very little money wagered.

    Matchbook has decent amounts available to bet against but does not offer an alternate puck line (ie +1.5 or -1.5), I know they are affiliated with WSEX which gives them credibility but they only offer USD accounts and I prefer using the currency of my **** card which is CAD. (Conversions are a pain and the house is always getting an edge)

    Mansion seems to have alot more money available to wager against as soon as the lines are posted, they also have money lines and puck lines which Matchbook does not. They also allow withdrawals to **** cards and allow CAD accounts. For me Mansion is far superior.

    Anyone else have experinces with these exchanges positive or negative they could share?
    Last edited by betplom; 02-28-07 at 04:04 PM.

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    Matchbook. Thumbs way up. Liquidity is on the rise. Why pay -110 if you can get it at +105? Plus your offers are virtually guaranteed to be picked up at +100. Place is really shaping up. Haven't noticed the nightly downtime in recent weeks. All bets and transactions on record (like Pinny).

    They're clearly still developing, and often put up 1H lines far too late to my taste, but given their many benefits I'm ok with that. If we all played here we'd have our own little paradise. No question about it. Just like the old pirates of the Caribbean.

    Mansion has gone down in a hurry. Just do a search on this forum.
    Last edited by Dark Horse; 02-28-07 at 05:32 PM.

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    I might be looking at the wrong time or not enough but when I do look at Matchbook lines the liquidity looks very low.. I don't see many games where you can get a dime or better for the best odds.. Most of the time there will be WAAAAY more offered on one side then the other and I usually like the other side.. Going to check out Mansion again I haven't looked at them in a while...

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    Liquidity is far from where it should be, no doubt about it.
    But 1 dime is way too low. Right now, first game I checked, offers are 3300 on PHX +104 and 7500 on PHX -284.

    Only way to get liquidity up is by having more bettors join. The platform is there.
    Last edited by Dark Horse; 02-28-07 at 06:01 PM.

    SBR Founder Join Date: 12/14/2005


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    Yep agreed, Matchbook is good and Mansion is prolly dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    If we all played here we'd have our own little paradise. No question about it. Just like the old pirates of the Caribbean.
    Maybe an upgrade could help, i think they deserve a bit more than B. The safety is there with Wsex, and the value is great.

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    if there is that kind of money that's not bad... I must be checking at the wrong time...

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    In my experience, Matchbook is best checked mid-late gameday until a little more than half an hour before game time. Near the end, matchbook will close early and things often wind down a little before that so that players don't have to worry about late moves and having positions they don't have time to unload. As liquidity increases, you can find a good market earlier.

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    I too was tempted to open at Matchbook but when I found out that it was owned by WSEX... had my second thoughts. I was not able to withdraw from WSEX via moneybookers which was the way I deposited because "their moneybookers was down". Maybe more accurately, "we have no funds in moneybookers right now" would be more true to the fact.

    As with Matchbook, there simply is no liquidity right now. But it should pick-up in a couple of months. But their liquidity is much better than BetDaq it seems.

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    new2betting, there appears to be more liquidity with matchbook since the demise of pinnacle for U.S. customers...I play with them on a daily basis and have had a good experience so far...

    mansion is definitely in the shitter...

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    Pinnacle and Mansion were my favorites and both are gone for US players.

    SBR Founder Join Date: 8/10/2005


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    Match. 1 hr before game time seems to be the best time for me. I've been saying for a while that if we could move most of the lost pinny action to match we'd have everything we want.

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    If Mansion had spent their millions a little wiser, they would be the industry leader today. Instead they wasted millions of dollars on stupid promotions and heavy scalpable lines.

    SBR Founder Join Date: 8/10/2005


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    If there is a sport where Matchbook lacks liquidity and there is substantial demand for that liquidity by people willing to pay slightly more than the Pinnacle middle, let me know what that sport is and I will look into spreading it or spreading it at a particular time of the day. One idea is (say for hockey which I don't normally look at) that I could say that at 3pm EST when the world is otherwise quiet I'll put up lines on the games for a half hour.

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    Matchbook volume is slightly rising, I thought though they would grow quicker. A very safe place to play though and not many left so more should be playing there.

    SBR Founder Join Date: 7/20/2005


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    What do you guys think of the "second largest exchange".... BetDaq?

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    Its ok, I think americans are not allowed to play there though. The volume is fair for Euro stuff especially soccer, has grown somewhat, big plus is it has been around.

    SBR Founder Join Date: 7/20/2005


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