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    is it related to Matchbook and wsex?

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    It doesn't seem to be related, but rather utlising Matchbook's x-bets feature on a large scale... Matchbook presumably stand for the money so there doesn't seem to be a risk for the player except for this bit:


    When all the elements of the bets are complete we will email Matchbook and notify them of the results and they will complete the wager on Matchbook giving whoever wins the funds.
    If PB were to submit a false 'result' to Matchbook, I'm not sure under MB rules the player has any chance to 'correct' it..

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    How Does This Work?

    ParlayMakers.com was designed to work with the Matchbook Betting Exchange. The Matchbook Betting Exchange does not always have all the options that many people would like, including parlays. So you can create your parlays here and ParlayMakers.com will post them on the Matchbook website for you to match our offer.

    Here is the step by step guide to using ParlayMakers.com:

    You will need a Matchbook Betting Exchange account. If you don't have one, create it at www.MatchBook.com. Matchbook has multiple funding options that you can use to get funds in your Matchbook account.

    At ParlayMakers.com click on "Create Parlay".

    Select which types of sports or events you would like for your parlay and click "Get Parlay Lines".

    Select your specific wagers and click "Create Parlay".

    Select the amount of your wager from the drop down menu. Enter email (optional). Enter Code minimum 6 characters (optional), the code is used if for any reason you need to contact us about a specific wager.

    Select "Place Wager". You will now see your unique 10 character parlay ticket, a description of the bet, the amount of wager, odds and payout info, and your secret code/phrase. Important, either print this information out or write the information down.

    Go to www.MatchBook.com, log-in to your account and look under X-Bets for the unique 10 character parlay ticket you created. This will appear within 15-20 minutes after you create your parlay. Verify that this is the bet and odds you created.

    Match our offer in Matchbook and you have completed your parlay. You have 1 hour from the time you submit your parlay to match the offer on Matchbook. After one hour the offer will be canceled and you will have to resubmit a new parlay.

    When all the elements of the bets are complete we will email Matchbook and notify them of the results and they will complete the wager on Matchbook giving whoever wins the funds.

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    What are the advantages of using ParlayMakers.com?

    ParlayMakers.com allows you to keep all of your betting action in one place, the Matchbook Betting Exchange. With ParlayMakers.com there is now no need to have another option just to do your parlays, it can all be done on your favorite betting exchange, Matchbook. ParlayMakers.com always offers great parlay odds on every parlay. You can bet as little as a $1. ParlayMakers.com has great betting variety so you can mix and match from an ever increasing variety of sports. Want something else, just ask us and we will do everything we can to accommodate you.

    How do I open an account at ParlayMakers.com?

    There is no account to open. When you create your wager, you will be given a wager ticket. Within about 15-20 minutes that Wager ticket will be listed on the Matchbook Betting Exchange under X-Bets. Match the bet on Matchbook Exchange and you are done. You must have a Matchbook account to use the Parlaymakers.com service. You can open an account at Matchbook with this link www.MatchBook.com.

    How do I deposit funds?

    To use ParlayMakers.com you must have a Matchbook Betting Exchange account. ParlayMakers.com does not accept any wagers or deposits.

    How can I withdraw funds?

    If you win your wager your winnings will be paid on the Matchbook Betting Exchange. When you wager on Matchbook you are always guaranteed to get your funds.

    What is the minimum bet I can create on Parlaymakers.com?

    The minimum bet is $1. The maximum bet for parlays is $250 and the maximum bet for teasers is $500.

    What kind of bets can I create at ParlayMakers.com?

    Currently, you can only create 2-5 team parlays and 2-15 team teasers. We will be adding other options in the near future.

    What happens if someone else matches the offer before me?

    Although this is unlikely, since your relation with ParlayMakers is anonymous there is nothing we can do. If this were to happen simply return to Parlaymakers.com and create the parlay again.

    What happens if the wager is misgraded?

    If this happens, you will need to contact us at info@parlaymakers.com. You will need to provide the 10 character ticket number and the unique code for that ticket number. We will need both of those to assist you in resolving the issue. Parlaymakers.com lists all of our tickets publicly so there is tremendous transparency and any misgraded issues can be resolved very quickly.

    What happens if there is a push?

    A push is when one of your parlay bets ends by the exact amount of the spread. In this event your parlay will be graded as if the pushed event was not included in your parlay, so a 5 team parlay will be graded as a 4 team parlay, a two team parlay as a straight wager.
    IMPORTANT: In the event of a push in one of your events, to keep things simple, your parlay will be graded as a loss on Matchbook. When this happens send an email to push@parlaymakers.com that includes the event ticket number AND the code you created with this ticket. Parlaymakers will then evaluate the parlay not including the push and arrange for you to be paid. You will be paid within 24 hours.

    What are your hours of operation?

    Teasers and Parlays are accepted from 9am to 5pm EST, 7 days per week.

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    Yes I've just been playing with the site. They seem to have their ship in order, ban a few correlations etc. Don't think I'll be lining up to join the 'Risk pool' though.

    I have to imagine if it was related to MB/WSEX (rather than utilising it) then it would be integrated better than some random codes under X-Bets.

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    i wish matchbook was in charge of the grading.
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    The lines are I assume scraped from Pinny's XML? So it's effectively a way to play Pinny parlays at reduced juice..

    Some interesting teaser odds too..

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    Which one of you scoundrels is trying to sneak in the Philles 1st Half - Phillies Game parlay ?

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    Posting the parlays publicly on their site is good for scrutiny I guess, on both player and them. Will be interesting to see what they do with that one; I assume they are manually reviewing them before they are offered.

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    i just noticed that they put they parlays out for the public to see
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    The 15-25 minute delay also means they may refuse if the lines move against them I suspect...

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    Santo, is that Kate off of Lost??

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    Ana Ivanovic. Tennis Player. Very old picture from when I first entered forum-ville.

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    They seem to have accepted and posted the 1H/ML parlay.

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    ok can anyone match those bets?

    i did not match the parlay i put up yet it is not open any longer

    i thought you needed the code to match it?

    otherwise anyone can steal someone elses parlay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    ok can anyone match those bets?

    i did not match the parlay i put up yet it is not open any longer

    i thought you needed the code to match it?

    otherwise anyone can steal someone elses parlay.
    LOL .. I guess we figured out who submiitted the Philles 1st Half- Phillies Game parlay.

    I can`t believe they accepted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    LOL .. I guess we figured out who submiited the Philles 1st Half- Phillies Game parlay.

    I can`t believe they accepted it.
    i just did it as a test

    but i see a major problem with them allowing anyone to accept other peoples parlay.

    if 1st half ends in a push and philly wins the person taking this parlay needs the code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    i just did it as a test

    but i see a major problem with them allowing anyone to accept other peoples parlay.

    if 1st half ends in a push and philly wins the person taking this parlay needs the code.
    They have the codes for all accepted parlays and teasers on their homepage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    They have the codes for all accepted parlays and teasers on their homepage.

    no when you submit a parlay i had to put another code in 6 letters




    What happens if there is a push?
    A push is when one of your parlay bets ends by the exact amount of the spread. In this event your parlay will be graded as if the pushed event was not included in your parlay, so a 5 team parlay will be graded as a 4 team parlay, a two team parlay as a straight wager.
    IMPORTANT: In the event of a push in one of your events, to keep things simple, your parlay will be graded as a loss on Matchbook. When this happens send an email to push@parlaymakers.com that includes the event ticket number AND the code you created with this ticket. Parlaymakers will then evaluate the parlay not including the push and arrange for you to be paid. You will be paid within 24 hours.
    Last edited by BigDaddy; 11-04-09 at 03:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    no when you submit a parlay i had to put another code in 6 letters

    in case of a dispute the person betting the parlay needs that code and email addy

    so if philly push 1st 5 and wins game the person that bet this parlay has no way of knowing either


    What happens if there is a push?
    A push is when one of your parlay bets ends by the exact amount of the spread. In this event your parlay will be graded as if the pushed event was not included in your parlay, so a 5 team parlay will be graded as a 4 team parlay, a two team parlay as a straight wager.
    IMPORTANT: In the event of a push in one of your events, to keep things simple, your parlay will be graded as a loss on Matchbook. When this happens send an email to push@parlaymakers.com that includes the event ticket number AND the code you created with this ticket. Parlaymakers will then evaluate the parlay not including the push and arrange for you to be paid. You will be paid within 24 hours.
    I know the code you are talking about .. you just make up a code yourself, and submit it along with the request, in order to help link you to that particular wager ... but I think that code is optional.

    Ultimately, the Order ID on each parlay and teaser is the thing that will be used to govern each wager. Each parlay or teaser has an Order ID ... that ID code is put up on the Matchbook X-Bets section ... once it`s put up on Matchbook, I guess it`s fair game, and anyone can bet it ... and whoever bets that particular ID code is the one who is going to get paid if the bet wins.
    Last edited by Halifax; 11-04-09 at 03:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo View Post
    They seem to have accepted and posted the 1H/ML parlay.
    Unfortunately, this slipped through our normal software rules. This bug is being fixed. Someone got a good deal out of it though. It places me in the awkward position of rooting for the Yankees. Happy to answer any questions about parlaymakers that you may have.

    Parlaymakers is not affiliated with Matchbook.

    We are open to suggestions if there is anything you would like to see different on the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    I know the code you are talking about .. you just make up a code yourself, and submit it along with the request, in order to help link you to that particular wager ... but I think that code is optional.

    Ultimately, the Order ID on each parlay and teaser is the thing that will be used to govern each wager. Each parlay or teaser has an Order ID ... that ID code is put up on the Matchbook X-Bets section ... once it`s put up on Matchbook, I guess it`s fair game, and anyone can bet it ... and whoever bets that particular ID code number is the one who is going to get paid if the bet wins.
    If there is a push you will need to contact us which is why we recommend the code and email. Without the code and email we have no way of telling who created the original parlay. Highly recommend using the code and email to help resolve any push issues.

    Once the offer is listed on Matchbook it is open to anyone to match. Generally this will probably not occur because parlays and teasers tend to be fairly unique but it is possible. If this happens you can return to parlaymakers and create the event again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max009 View Post
    If there is a push you will need to contact us which is why we recommend the code and email. Without the code and email we have no way of telling who created the original parlay. Highly recommend using the code and email to help resolve any push issues.
    If someone wants to keep their identity confidential (and not use their e-mail address or submit a unique code), I don`t really see a problem.

    The Order ID is on the ticket at Matchbook .. that same Order ID (and the underlying parlay) is also listed on the PM website. So if there is a grading problem, I assume someone can contact you and just tell you to contact Matchbook and correct the X-Bet that was named Order ID XXXXXXXX. Then, I assume Matchbook would correct the problem and credit the relevant account.

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    What is your current policy on limits ?

    I see that limits are $250 on parlays and $500 on teasers, but the same parlay or teaser can theoretically be submitted multiple times by multiple people.

    Do you have a specific exposure limit per team, per game, or how does it work ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    If someone wants to keep their identity confidential (and not use their e-mail address or submit a unique code), I don`t really see a problem.

    The Order ID is on the ticket at Matchbook .. that same Order ID (and the underlying parlay) is also listed on the PM website. So if there is a grading problem, I assume someone can contact you and just tell you to contact Matchbook and correct the X-Bet that was named Order ID XXXXXXXX. Then, I assume Matchbook would correct the problem and credit the relevant account.
    Parlaymakers was designed to keep things as simple as possible for Matchbook. We created the code and email option to keep Matchbook out of any grading disputes and having to deal with those issues. If you have a parlay that has the possibility of a push we recommend you use the code and email. You can use the same code for every event you create, you don't have to change that. Also, you can just add the code and not put in an email to maintain your anonymity. If you include your email we send you an email when the event is listed, matched, and settled on Matchbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    What is your current policy on limits ?

    I see that limits are $250 on parlays and $500 on teasers, but the same parlay or teaser can theoretically be submitted multiple times by multiple people.

    Do you have a specific exposure limit per team, per game, or how does it work ?
    Yes, it depends on a lot of factors as you can imagine.

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    I see 2 parlays are pending, one of them was submitted 2 hours or so ago, why does it take so long?
    your site says it take 10-15 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion View Post
    I see 2 parlays are pending, one of them was submitted 2 hours or so ago, why does it take so long?
    your site says it take 10-15 minutes
    We are working with Matchbook to reduce that time. Matchbook has been great to work with and I am sure as we grow the delays will be ironed out.

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    If somebody submits a parlay, and the line moves 2-3 points by the time it would be listed, do you guarantee to honour the original lines?

    This is also the problem with posting them publicly -- somebody could spot a bargain will be available and lurk the offer, shutting the original bettor out of his lines.

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    If somebody submits a parlay, and the line moves 2-3 points by the time it would be listed, do you guarantee to honour the original lines?

    This is also the problem with posting them publicly -- somebody could spot a bargain will be available and lurk the offer, shutting the original bettor out of his lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo View Post
    If somebody submits a parlay, and the line moves 2-3 points by the time it would be listed, do you guarantee to honour the original lines?
    I`ll take the liberty to answer that ..

    No.

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    I don't use Matchbook but from what i understand, As soon as an event is over Matchbook grades the wager buy paying the winning side. If you win your parlay bet why do Matchbook need to recive a email from ParlayMakers before grading your wager?
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    santo you are very right

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    They decided to get into bed with Ken from EOG, thats all the information i need to know.
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