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Old 10-31-09, 04:32 PM   #1
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Old 10-31-09, 04:35 PM   #2
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You can't predict any sport JJ. You are horrible in every sport that a spread is offered. You are always on the wrong side of the fix.
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Old 10-31-09, 04:58 PM   #3
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JJGOLD stop doubting yourself
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Old 10-31-09, 05:00 PM   #4
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JJ , take the rest of the weekend off
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Old 10-31-09, 05:03 PM   #5
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80% luck..always has been
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Old 10-31-09, 06:22 PM   #6
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Go heavy in NFL. Tail Riggs. Get your dough back and put a bundle on Monday Night. You're a gambler, a true risk-taker. The ball is going to bounce your way if you stay in it.
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Old 10-31-09, 06:29 PM   #7
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JJ, quit bitching. Study the night games, I need a winner, I owe money come Monday.
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Old 10-31-09, 06:37 PM   #8
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I think a lot of guys getting killed today. I'm hanging on by the skin of my teeth but it could go real bad if I don't get some breaks soon.
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Old 10-31-09, 06:39 PM   #9
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Play the dogs tomorrow, the books will get their money back from last weekend.
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Old 10-31-09, 06:44 PM   #10
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Dude...are you just figuring this out??
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Old 10-31-09, 07:18 PM   #11
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yeah, alot of wild stuff, and i'm getting absolutely killed........... have to grab on to some night-time games.
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Old 10-31-09, 07:51 PM   #12
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I tailed Josh Hamilton in all his CFB games today and ended up going 4-0. I would suggest tailing him next week
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Old 10-31-09, 08:24 PM   #13
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You can't predict any sport JJ. You are horrible in every sport that a spread is offered. You are always on the wrong side of the fix.
If I gave points...I would give you some.. Could someone give Pavy points for this post...and me some for suggesting it..
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Old 10-31-09, 08:26 PM   #14
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Pick your spots and stop betting 10 games a day... I went 1-0...done for day...only urge now is the pizza that should be here in 5 minutes...
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Old 10-31-09, 11:00 PM   #15
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JJ today was a great day. What are you talking about. Outside of also liking the one justin7 pick that lost 45 to 0 (I had +44.5) had 2 losers. Rest were winners.
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Old 10-31-09, 11:08 PM   #16
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It's actually not been that hard this year. Chalk has been covering, the top 10 teams have, for the most part, been the same all year.
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Pick your spots and stop betting 10 games a day... I went 1-0...done for day...only urge now is the pizza that should be here in 5 minutes...
Good stuff... I wish I'd taken your advice. I bet a shitload of games today and got my ass kicked. Huge beat down today and yesterday in NBA. Time for me to slow my ass down, regroup and grind 1 or 2 games a day. Last week I couldn't lose, this week, I can't buy a win. That's the way this shit goes...
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Old 10-31-09, 11:23 PM   #18
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I got killed in NBA yesterday then CAL shat on my BR today.

Some weeks you're down, others you're ahead. The race is long.

Thank God theres more sh_it to bet on tomorrow
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Old 10-31-09, 11:25 PM   #19
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its a rollercoaster.
if you dont have an MDA in mathmatics you'll never come out ahead.
all I got is a BS in economics
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Old 10-31-09, 11:29 PM   #20
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Sometimes you have to improvise to win. Today I hit several 2H plays were the total seemed low compared to the total for game. Boston College, Virginia and Michigan. When the total in the 1H is extremely low hammer the over 2H because it would be close to the game total. Or when a game fav is losing at halftime big always play them to cover the 2H.
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Old 10-31-09, 11:56 PM   #21
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The main problem is that you cannot predict turnovers which changes so many games.
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Old 11-01-09, 12:20 AM   #22
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The main problem is that you cannot predict turnovers which changes so many games.
or shitty coaching decisions. I got killed on the thurs to friday plays didnt hit anything, 7.4 units downs, today i got +1.05 units, should had stop it by 3:30 pm to, hoping to be on the right track tomorrow, but no more bets for me from mon to friday
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No way

Its all in the lines.
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You can't predict any sport JJ. You are horrible in every sport that a spread is offered. You are always on the wrong side of the fix.

FinalMississippi
Auburn20
33[BookMaker]Mississippi -4.5 (-110)Loss3.30-3.30FinalSouthern Mississippi
Houston43
50[BookMaker]Houston -6.5 (-110)Win3.303.00FinalUCLA
Oregon State19
26[BookMaker]Oregon State -9.5 (-110)Loss3.30-3.30FinalWashington State
Notre Dame14
40[BookMaker]Notre Dame -27 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalMississippi State
Kentucky31
24[BookMaker]Kentucky -3.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalKansas State
Oklahoma30
42[BookMaker]Oklahoma -27.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalLouisiana Tech
Idaho34
35[BookMaker]Idaho -3 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalHawaii
Nevada21
31[BookMaker]Nevada -28.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalGeorgia
Florida17
41[BookMaker]Under 49 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalCalifornia
Arizona State23
21[BookMaker]California -6.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10


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FinalMississippi
Auburn20
33[BookMaker]Mississippi -4.5 (-110)Loss3.30-3.30FinalSouthern Mississippi
Houston43
50[BookMaker]Houston -6.5 (-110)Win3.303.00FinalUCLA
Oregon State19
26[BookMaker]Oregon State -9.5 (-110)Loss3.30-3.30FinalWashington State
Notre Dame14
40[BookMaker]Notre Dame -27 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalMississippi State
Kentucky31
24[BookMaker]Kentucky -3.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalKansas State
Oklahoma30
42[BookMaker]Oklahoma -27.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalLouisiana Tech
Idaho34
35[BookMaker]Idaho -3 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalHawaii
Nevada21
31[BookMaker]Nevada -28.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalGeorgia
Florida17
41[BookMaker]Under 49 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalCalifornia
Arizona State23
21[BookMaker]California -6.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10


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He got lucky on Houston

He should have gone 0-10
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Good responses boys, enjoyed reading them all

I start threads like this for a reason to pick your brains and maybe become a better capper.
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Old 11-01-09, 01:38 PM   #28
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all I do is pay a longsnapper dime to sail the football over the fuukin forehead of the punter in the 4th quarter to avoid the backdoor
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FinalMississippi
Auburn20
33[BookMaker]Mississippi -4.5 (-110)Loss3.30-3.30FinalSouthern Mississippi
Houston43
50[BookMaker]Houston -6.5 (-110)Win3.303.00FinalUCLA
Oregon State19
26[BookMaker]Oregon State -9.5 (-110)Loss3.30-3.30FinalWashington State
Notre Dame14
40[BookMaker]Notre Dame -27 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalMississippi State
Kentucky31
24[BookMaker]Kentucky -3.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalKansas State
Oklahoma30
42[BookMaker]Oklahoma -27.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalLouisiana Tech
Idaho34
35[BookMaker]Idaho -3 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalHawaii
Nevada21
31[BookMaker]Nevada -28.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalGeorgia
Florida17
41[BookMaker]Under 49 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10FinalCalifornia
Arizona State23
21[BookMaker]California -6.5 (-110)Loss1.10-1.10


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Old 11-01-09, 03:46 PM   #31
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my record was much, if any, better than that posted ticket.

basically my account balance didn't move after a certain point except KSU/OKLA and WSU/ND and then a bunch of losses after that.

anyway, as per the OP's title, i've often wondered if moneylines are good value in the NCAAF. i've wondered if they are properly priced relative to NCAAF's much higher variance than NFL.... obviously this was a big week for strange results, but i wonder if i could study line variance thru the year. i'm thinking teams doing well start to feel the pressure and terrible teams have finally made enough adjustments by this time of year.

anyone else had these thoughts? the second idea is probably better, but harder to quantify... hard to believe moneylines wouldn't be properly priced, but it's something i've always sensed.
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Old 11-01-09, 03:59 PM   #32
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college foots is the most difficult for me. continually working to improve it.

college basketball is the holy grail, however.
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I wouldn't say 80% luck. Maybe 33%, something like that.

It comes down to which, uh, "kid" fumbles, how many times, etc.

And other turnovers, IT's, deflected passes, bad timed major penalties.

I would guess if you have the right side, outgain the other team dramatically, but you lose the turnover battle by 2 or more, you lose 1/3 of the bets anway. Something like that, IMO.

You can review turnover stats, etc, but not a productive way to bet until late in the season when you can somewhat determine that some teams are disciplined in that area and some are not. Bad teams are under pressure so turn the ball over more than good teams in control.

When a dog plays well, to its capabilites and does not turn the ball over, it covers at lot, say 66% of the time. When the dog playts well, does turn the ball over it loses, say 66% of the time.

Just round figures, no science, IMO that what it comes down to. But not 80% luck, much less than that.

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Pick your spots and stop betting 10 games a day... I went 1-0...done for day...only urge now is the pizza that should be here in 5 minutes...
Even though you pay a lot of juice, if you know what you are doing you are better off betting more games, but lesser amounts of $$$.

A few games will be lost because of bad luck, TO's, bad ref calls, penalties, deflected passes, etc, and if you bet 1 game, you might lose it becasue of that. But if you pick 10 games based upon good solid handicapping and knowledge, you will lose 1-2-3 games with bad luck, win 1-2-3 with good luck, and win others that were handicapped well.

Spread the bets, lighter plays, until you have a bankroll, then increase.

Example, glad I did not bet one game, like Indiana + 17, what a disaster. I bet 13 games yesterday, won some $$$$, not a ton, but nice day.
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Old 11-01-09, 07:54 PM   #35
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i dont like playing just one or two games. i trust the work that i have done. i have already found games that i like based on opening lines. rest of the week goes to doing the weekday games and watching for totals and line movement.

my goal is to be between 55 and 65 percent. I play about 10 games a week, and if you trust your stuff, 60% of 10 bets pays a lot more
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