Payout delays: Still not acceptable and players need to take them as warning signs.

SBR_John · 02-16-2007, 09:54 PM

No matter if its VIP, CRIS are whoever. The books have real problems with processing right now. Whatever. Their job is to find a way to pay when they lose and players must try to hold some ground here. We can't accept slow pays.

A big risk here is that a book in trouble will be able to hide behind the "processing excuse". It makes our job harder and removes an early warning detection that a book is in trouble.

Players need to be vocal. Players need to only play at books they trust. Honorable bookmakers will always find a way to pay.

trustbutverify · 02-16-2007, 09:56 PM

john- how has matchbook been?

SBR_John · 02-16-2007, 10:01 PM

Matchbook has been as spotty as well. They are trust worthy though.

Sam Odom · 02-16-2007, 10:05 PM

Under the present conditions if one cannot refrain from betting offshore then they should take an inventory of themselves because there may be a personal problem brewing.

new2betting · 02-16-2007, 10:08 PM

I was able to withdraw using moneybookers at Mansion within just a few hours. Of course I had to submit identification etc prior to withdrawal.

The books that I had withdrawal problems with were 5dimes and WSEX. I do not know if they are "okay" right now.

I do not know if 5Dimes' promoting of e-gold as a payment method is a way for them to easily get funding. That is why I posted on another thread if anyone actually did the whole e-gold process of payment & withdrawal successfully.

pags11 · 02-16-2007, 10:38 PM

good stuff john...sam, I may fall into that category, but I kind of like being a degenerate...

pibedoro · 02-16-2007, 11:12 PM

I cannot accept slow pays neither but when the hell can we do if like me after 13 months of a series of successful moneybookers payouts with POINTBET they just decide that its time not to release fast payouts anymore. I am an optimisitic guy by nature but I am still waiting for my $2k moneybookers already 5 weeks by now.

freebie · 02-16-2007, 11:20 PM

Bill or JOhn,

What do you know about BetTrojan? are they making payouts or heard any complains. I kinda like their -105 games.

I'm stuck with Skybook's -107 right now and it's going to cost me an arm and a leg to withdraw via WU.

small nickel · 02-16-2007, 11:31 PM

how is betgameday at paying?
thanks

pags11 · 02-17-2007, 12:27 AM

have matchbook payouts really been that slow?...

onlòóker · 02-17-2007, 12:39 AM

That is why Im sticking to betting in town. Offshore is such a question mark these days. I want to see improvements before I jump back in to the offshore books. I dont want to jump through hoops to get money in and out of a book. Its really nice to have it go right into my pocket.

knicknut · 02-17-2007, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR_John

No matter if its VIP, CRIS are whoever. The books have real problems with processing right now. Whatever. Their job is to find a way to pay when they lose and players must try to hold some ground here. We can't accept slow pays.

A big risk here is that a book in trouble will be able to hide behind the "processing excuse". It makes our job harder and removes an early warning detection that a book is in trouble.

Players need to be vocal. Players need to only play at books they trust. Honorable bookmakers will always find a way to pay.

This is all good and well, but if we're trying to get money out of a book (as most of us are), we really don't have a choice.

SBR_John · 02-17-2007, 01:12 AM

Bill follows BetTrojan so he would have a better opinion. Gameday, Matchbook and other good books are struggeling to make timely payouts. They are honorable bookmakers and will pay.

Players need to continue to complain because the standard is being lowered as we speak. Players are losing ground.

As players, you guys shouldnt care why payouts are slow. Excuses and .50 will still get you a jelly dougnut. Dont let SBR or anyone else tell you slow pays are OK. The books i think make good money. Its their job to find a way to pay players. Its certainly not the players job to accept slow pays as normal.

trustbutverify · 02-17-2007, 01:18 AM

Son of a mother

Wheell · 02-17-2007, 02:14 AM

I understand both sides of this. Slow pays are miserable, but slow pays do not even begin to compare to no pays. Let's not confuse the issue.

pags11 · 02-17-2007, 02:21 AM

I really think we were just so spoiled before...

BuddyBear · 02-17-2007, 04:04 AM

Agreed Pags....Neteller made life so much easier. Things are changing right before our very eyes and for the worse.

Thanks John for this thread....

Arilou · 02-17-2007, 12:02 PM

I have always wondered about our priorities. Yes, it's great to be able to request a payout and have the money in an hour. But is that what really maters? To me, this represents an opportunity cost of money that defies reality. If I can choose between -110 lines that pay instantly and -109 lines where I can withdraw in three weeks, I know which one I'm going to bet at, and I'm not laying -110 - I'm with Wheell. Pay me late, so long as you pay me. I certainly do not want a book to risk drawing the wrong kind of attention in order to avoid slowpays during a strange period.

What I want to know even more is, where does SBR_John plan to get a .50c Jelly Doughnut? Mmm, jelly doughnuts...