[punchmaster]

Just went into my account and it was now UNCERTIFIED, taking away peer to peer ability. My canadian friend was just finishing the certification process so I could transfer. Mutherfukkers!!!!!!!!!!!

[PeterWellington]

This is totally ****ed.

[azkid]

I still remain optimistic. Neteller is trying to do everything in their power to help us but they are probably legitimately overwhelmed. Imagine all the thousands of people who are calling them daily and all the crap they're dealing with from the US government. If they really wanted to screw people over they never would have allowed people to withdraw money via the atm card or p2p in the first place. They also would be freezing foreigners' funds too. Don't worry, everything will be just fine. YAY!

[azkid]

Neteller says p2p will no longer be an option for US customers....

http://content.neteller.com/content/...nessupdate.htm

Hey, no big deal! Actually this is a good thing. Rather than getting fleeced by some weirdo will will take 5% of your cash to perform the transfer (or even worse, possibly get scammed completely), you will receive all of your money without anyone taking a cut when Neteller's withdrawal options are get back online. Hey, it's for your own good. This is the greatest thing ever! Don't complain, you should be THANKING Neteller!!! Hip hip hooray! I can't wait to take out my 8K once this mess gets cleared up.

[TLD]

Oh, for heaven’s sake, shut up already.

[JC]

Assholes!

You know it's one thing when a US based company goes over and above the call of duty to comply, but what the hell do they care?

They should take the position that once one of our customers does a peer to peer, it's not their concern or business what happens with the money next. They could have let themselves become the monetary equivalent of those non-centralized music sharing networks that sprouted up after Napster, I think Kazaa was one of them. In effect, every foreigner would be a new node.

Assholes!

[CA_Bettor06]

I spoke to Neteller and they said they disabled peer to peer by Uncertifying the US accounts because too many US bettors were using it to fund gambling accounts. If the US bettors would have just stayed away from gambling sites and just take their money out then Neteller wouldn't have done this. They also said they are still having problems with EFT and check processors not wanting to process our payouts. Neteller is not using our money bargaining chip, the US Gov is somehow preventing the payouts by telling the processors it's illegal to do business with Neteller. I don't think the US Gov cares whether gamblers get their money back. They are treating us like drug addicts. If we get our money back we would just gamble it away. I'm sure they view this predicament as our punishment for engaging in online gambling. Can anyone point to any public statement by the US Gov denying that they are involved in freezing Neteller payouts? Why don't they have a press conference to address our concerns? They don't care, that's why.

[Bill Dozer]

This one hurts. I know some books were getting ready to take peer-to-peer. It looks like lawyers are calling the shots now.

Why can't I perform Peer-to-Peer transfers anymore?
In order to ensure that US members do not use NETELLER with the intent to gamble online, NETELLER is no longer offering its Peer-to-Peer service in the US.

[tblues2005]

Don't you think that there could be a way this would work with a different company possibly. I think someone out there could do a peer to peer deal that would work. Does anyone else offer that like ATMOnline or anyone else?

[Bill Dozer]

"If the US bettors would have just stayed away from gambling sites and just take their money out then Neteller wouldn't have done this."

Most people don't know anyone they can trust but could have withdrawn through a different method.

Anyone try to attach a non-US bank account yet?

[David]

Why can't they issue US customers foreign checks?

[Bill Dozer]

Originally Posted by JC

Assholes!

You know it's one thing when a US based company goes over and above the call of duty to comply, but what the hell do they care?

They should take the position that once one of our customers does a peer to peer, it's not their concern or business what happens with the money next. They could have let themselves become the monetary equivalent of those non-centralized music sharing networks that sprouted up after Napster, I think Kazaa was one of them. In effect, every foreigner would be a new node.

Assholes!

They were one more step removed from US cits gambling and still couldn't let players get out.

[Dark Horse]

Spineless bunch at Neteller. They're obviously acting out of fear. Why are so many people buying into fear these days?

Given the predominance of fear, my suggestion would be to scare the daylight out of Neteller.

[CA_Bettor06]

I have a Canadian neteller account with a valid canadian address attached to a canadian checking account. But I started this process back in October, so I don't know if doing it now would raise red flags. But you really need to apply for a new Neteller account using a canadian address and phone number. You can't use an existing Neteller account and try to change the address or bank account.

The only way to get a Canadian checking account is to go to Canada with a passport and a credit card for ID.

[David]

Originally Posted by Bill Dozer

Anyone try to attach a non-US bank account yet?

They won't let you do it. All funds transfers to a bank account must match the currency of the country registered in your Neteller account. That's what they told me at least.

[Bill Dozer]

If I had a large sum in my account I would be persistant in requesting they use my non-US account to pay me. Some players are pursuing this so we should all know more about that soon.

[Scorpion]

Originally Posted by CA_Bettor06

I have a Canadian neteller account with a valid canadian address attached to a canadian checking account. But I started this process back in October, so I don't know if doing it now would raise red flags. But you really need to apply for a new Neteller account using a canadian address and phone number. You can't use an existing Neteller account and try to change the address or bank account.

The only way to get a Canadian checking account is to go to Canada with a passport and a credit card for ID.

If you travel to canada how can you get a canadian ID or driver license?

[Scorpion]

When people start posting thier shit and the thread is 122 pages
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=0#Post8929751

and they talk so openly about it neteller probably read that topic and had no choice. Its eems posters did P2P for hundreads of thousands. Poeple were actually making alot of money doing P2P for other posters and they were all transferring to poker sites

fukking poker players fukked everything up

[Scorpion]

Originally Posted by CA_Bettor06

I spoke to Neteller and they said they disabled peer to peer by Uncertifying the US accounts because too many US bettors were using it to fund gambling accounts. If the US bettors would have just stayed away from gambling sites and just take their money out then Neteller wouldn't have done this. .

Why cant they just uncertify US accounts if they try to to a
P2P? Just another step in stealing our funds by neteller

[bigloser]

Originally Posted by JC

Assholes!

You know it's one thing when a US based company goes over and above the call of duty to comply, but what the hell do they care?

They should take the position that once one of our customers does a peer to peer, it's not their concern or business what happens with the money next. They could have let themselves become the monetary equivalent of those non-centralized music sharing networks that sprouted up after Napster, I think Kazaa was one of them. In effect, every foreigner would be a new node.

Assholes!

Dont see WSEX paying

[louis]

I am in the process of getting a non-us bank account.

Neteller has told me that they can not cash out to a non-us bank account, but I am going to beg them to do it anyhow.

The problem with moving to another country is that unless you actually do it, neteller could conclude you are trying to trick them and freeze your account.

It is not easy to go to Canada and get official ids such as driver's licenses, unless you are willing to go there and lie to the Canadians, which is a criminal offense.

[louis]

I am going to open up a non-us bank account - at a bank that neteller can do EFTs, but why should this even be necessary.

Why can't they just send us a check in Euros, or in Canadian dollars???

I would be more than happy to receive a check of my balance in Euros, or Can $. I'll take that check with me on my trip to open up the account.

[pags11]

I seriously can't believe this...

[patswin]

Man I feel lucky I got all of my funds out of there early this week. I feel like I dodged a bullet....

[capitalist pig]

Well, all this sounds about right, I honestley feel they have no intention of paying anyone (US) anything at this point. Im not worrying about it anymore, just going to consider it a bad bet and move on. If by some miracle they eventually pay us, I will consider it like hitting the lottery.

On the bright side I did find a Greek Liquor seller on ebay that takes neteller, carries high $ booze from all over the world. Maybe its time to stock the bar, and just be done with it.

later

[dickdoobie]

if you have a US bank account with neteller, consider your money gone. it is highly unlikely there will ever be ANY transaction between neteller and a US bank again.

[JoshW]

what can be said is bad news.

[pags11]

this is seriously one of the biggest rip-offs in the history of rip-offs...