[framboise]

someone on this forum (i don't remember his username) got stiffed by a scamdicapper.

the player lost $300.

[jjgold]

who

any details??

TOuts are hard to track

[framboise]

I don't remember their names

All i know is the player paid $300 for a montly picks package.

The players was told by the tout that would be refunded if the picks didn't make a profit

The player contacted the tout for a refund.

The tout didn't respond.

[jjgold]

All touts are frauds period

[jackedup99]

Jonathan Stone claimed he would give me 10 times return on my investment. Week 2 in college he opens up 1 - 3 and then dumps Miami (pro) into my lap vs Atlanta. I told him that Miami was crap and he claimed to have "inside info" on the game. Miami lost by 12 only because they scored a garbage TD with 3min to go.

The greatest was when after a month was he claimed that there was some guy by the name of J.A. Cavalier who was the best handicapper alive and that he just got access to his picks, but for more money. Of course this just happened to be on the heels of a 5 -12 week.

He later admitted to me that he doesn t even handicap the football games, but fired his guys because they were so bad. I even have an email admitting he doesn t even send out the emails from his own service, among others totally eating crow and apologizing for being so horrendous.

Needless to say I am in the process of a chargeback with him. BTW, has anyone had any experience with chargebacks of this nature with any tout?

[SBR_John]

Originally Posted by jackedup99

Jonathan Stone claimed he would give me 10 times return on my investment. Week 2 in college he opens up 1 - 3 and then dumps Miami (pro) into my lap vs Atlanta. I told him that Miami was crap and he claimed to have "inside info" on the game. Miami lost by 12 only because they scored a garbage TD with 3min to go.

The greatest was when after a month was he claimed that there was some guy by the name of J.A. Cavalier who was the best handicapper alive and that he just got access to his picks, but for more money. Of course this just happened to be on the heels of a 5 -12 week.

He later admitted to me that he doesn t even handicap the football games, but fired his guys because they were so bad. I even have an email admitting he doesn t even send out the emails from his own service, among others totally eating crow and apologizing for being so horrendous.

Needless to say I am in the process of a chargeback with him. BTW, has anyone had any experience with chargebacks of this nature with any tout?

Good post. It could help someone who is considering joining this tout or any others.

[jjgold]

What is Stone's ##

[jackedup99]

His number is 646 337 9149. Please post the video on this thread. I could use a good laugh. Don t forget to ask about J. A. Cavalier. Thanks.

[Brick]

I could use some help getting paid too JJ, let me know if you need his number.

[jjgold]

left voice emssage on his machine

[jackedup99]

Anything yet on this clown?

[jjgold]

The guy Never called back

[Dunder]

Originally Posted by jjgold

All touts are frauds period

I can think of three exceptions (two of which are US based), but as a rule this is correct. Winners have no need to sell information.

[jackedup99]

Got another one for you JJ. This guy text me Phoenix +7 in Utah on 1/25. I replied after the game saying "nice call. Now f*ck off " when it didn t cover. He then unloads on me wishing me cancer on my prick. His name is Mike R from TM SPORTS. 7024696639. Sounds like a pretty volatile guy.

[Terrapin Station]

I think we could all use another player's advocate video from jj...

[jjgold]

Originally Posted by jackedup99

Got another one for you JJ. This guy text me Phoenix +7 in Utah on 1/25. I replied after the game saying "nice call. Now f*ck off " when it didn t cover. He then unloads on me wishing me cancer on my prick. His name is Mike R from TM SPORTS. 7024696639. Sounds like a pretty volatile guy.

I can try later, if they do not answer phone though it is a no go.

[Glitch]

heh

[jjgold]

He did not answer

[saland75]

Jonathon Stones "Stone Cold"

[brxbmbers42]

Anyone that pays for picks deserves to lose their money. I am sorry. By now don't people know that all these guys do is give 50 percent of the customers one side and the other 50 the other side. So that way they have half their customer base happy. Beyond me why people pay for picks.

[dfberger23]

People are pretty dumb, I should become a scamdicapper, sounds like an easy scam.