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Old 10-19-09, 12:16 PM   #1
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I wrote this whole ****ing thing and then it erased.

I think it is pretty well known around here how to maximize freeplays or atleast come close to maximizing. A simple search will do that for you. However, for all the new people signing up and getting freeplays through SBR, I thought I would show some examples how to use freeplays and which way is the best imo. Ofcourse, I am no genius at sportsbetting, so if I am wrong and/or messed up in a few areas (I'm sure I will) someone please correct me because we do have so many smart people here.

For simplistic sake, lets say you just bought a $100 freeplay at the SBR store for BetPhoenix and you want to maximize your return to start a bankroll there. Here are a few options you might have:

1.) Risking it big on parlays/teasers because this is a small amount and you want to hit it big. Remember, we are trying to get a bankroll started here, so lets throw this option out.

2.) Risking the $100 on a football game. This will give you a return of $90 50% of the time if you are "guessing", so your return would be $45 per $100freeplay. If you think you can hit 60% in football on certain plays, your return will then 60% of $90, or $54 per $100 freeplay. Obviously variance and risk of ruin are way high here and we are trying to BUILD a bankroll.

3.) Risking $100 on $10 bets on football games. The above holds true with less variance but lets give a for example:

$10 bets to win $9 (throw out the .09 to make it simple). You have a great run and go 7-3. That is $9 won 7 times, or $63. Congrats, you had a great run, and got 63% of your freeplay.

4.) Risking $100 on a 3 team parlay in which every team is involved. The key here is to find the lowest possible lines, i.e 10 cent lines. There are 8 combinations of 3 team parlays: 2^3 or:
Team A vs Team B, Team A vs Team B, Team A vs Team B where the commas denote different games.
The outcomes would either be: AAA, ABA, ABB, AAB, BBB, BBA, BAB, BAA.

To put this is real perspective today for NHL games:
Sharks -110 vs Rangers EV
Kings +128 vs Stars -138
Canucks +107 vs Oilers -117

You would then parlay each of the above scenarios 8 times. Since you have $100, divide that by the number of games (8), and you get the amount you should risk each game, or $12.50

Lets say you get unlucky tonight and all 3 favs win. You would be GUARANTEED $63.83. As in example 3, you went 7-3 and only got $63, this way, you are guaranteed that $63.

Now, what if all 3 underdogs win? You would win $105.49
Any amount to win is possible between $63- $105.

You have absolutely no risk in number 4 and you are guaranteed $63. Why not start your bankroll like this? Even if you gamble up the money, its better to have the cash than the freeplay to start out.

As I said before, I'm a noob and probably messed things up which someone can correct. I think it would help all the other people just starting up and is very common. Some people might get mad I posted this but it is plastered all over the forum (which is where I learned it. thank you SBR), I don't know why this post would make a difference. I am just showing it step by step.

Now go win some money

(Im not proofreading either since my second time typing this so deal with it )
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Old 10-19-09, 12:24 PM   #2
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Seems interesting to me,might try it.
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Very interesting. Almost seems too good to be true....
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Old 10-19-09, 12:34 PM   #4
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seems interesting enough. now Im assuming because its such a low free play that the bookd wouldnt mind, but how do they react when you have a much bigger free play? do they cancel the wager? just curious.
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Old 10-19-09, 12:46 PM   #5
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Would you need multiple books for 4?
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Old 10-19-09, 12:53 PM   #6
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I did option 4 at Betpho with my freeplay, CS said it was perfectly fine to do that.
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Old 10-19-09, 01:03 PM   #7
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You can do this at most reputable books including Betpho as Tweets just said.

Guaranteed $63 tonight with a $100 freeplay and as much as $105 if all underdogs win. the $63 is JUST LIKE you going 7-3 with your freeplay money. You would want to do this with the cheapest lines possible.


Now people send me 165 pts so I can do this
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Old 10-19-09, 01:06 PM   #8
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If you are allowed to use money lines for your free plays and have money at another book, the smart thing to do is use the free play on what you think is a hopeless money line dog and bet the favorite in that game for real money at the other book.

Then again, people using that approach are now overfunded at one book and underfunded at another if they used Raiders/Eagles yesterday, but seriously, that was like a 1 in 30 occurrence.
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Old 10-19-09, 01:06 PM   #9
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im still trying to figure this out
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Old 10-19-09, 01:07 PM   #10
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Yes this is a pretty standard play if the books allow it, BetPho is not currently paying +600 on 3 teamers at -110 on the Free Play line set. I saw about +555.
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Old 10-19-09, 01:10 PM   #11
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If you are allowed to use money lines for your free plays and have money at another book, the smart thing to do is use the free play on what you think is a hopeless money line dog and bet the favorite in that game for real money at the other book.

Then again, people using that approach are now overfunded at one book and underfunded at another if they used Raiders/Eagles yesterday, but seriously, that was like a 1 in 30 occurrence.
Yes, I was just talking about people wanting to build a bankroll out of their freeplay incase they wanted to:
Try the book
Have multiple books for shopping
Are broke and trying to maximize their money
Etc

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Old 10-19-09, 01:14 PM   #12
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BetPho is not currently paying +600 on 3 teamers at -110 on the Free Play line set. I saw about +555.

I'm not sure if I am answering the question right or not, but that is why you should use NHL ml?
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Old 10-19-09, 01:16 PM   #13
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If you are allowed to use money lines for your free plays and have money at another book, the smart thing to do is use the free play on what you think is a hopeless money line dog and bet the favorite in that game for real money at the other book.

Then again, people using that approach are now overfunded at one book and underfunded at another if they used Raiders/Eagles yesterday, but seriously, that was like a 1 in 30 occurrence.
I use it on all those +200 PL plays...good enough for me
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Old 10-19-09, 01:20 PM   #14
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I'm not sure if I am answering the question right or not, but that is why you should use NHL ml?
Well if they are paying +555 for 3 -110 plays (full odds payout should be +600) then I would assume that parlays at other prices would be reduced as well. I think your prices may include that reduction too if you put them in, you can check on a parlay calculator. Its still worth doing, just an FYI since I did the same
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Well if they are paying +555 for 3 -110 plays (full odds payout should be +600) then I would assume that parlays at other prices would be reduced as well. I think your prices may include that reduction too if you put them in, you can check on a parlay calculator. Its still worth doing, just an FYI since I did the same
I'm not getting what you are saying? Where are they not paying out 6:1 for you on -110 lines?

I just tried 3 random teams at -110 odds on Betpho and got 6:1. I recommended NHL because they are -105. Where are you only getting +555? Im confused and im sure overlooking something
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#xxxxxxxx: Parlay (2009/10/13 20:56) (Free Play)
Boston College ( -2½ -110) W 138.73
Iowa ( +2½ -110)
Virginia ( -3½ -110)

Thats what I got on my $25 freeplay $138.73 (+555), if you're getting +600 godspeed, bet quick!
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#xxxxxxxx: Parlay (2009/10/13 20:56) (Free Play)
Boston College ( -2½ -110) W 138.73
Iowa ( +2½ -110)
Virginia ( -3½ -110)

Thats what I got on my $25 freeplay $138.73 (+555), if you're getting +600 godspeed, bet quick!
Wow thats crazy. I just looked at simple college football lines and Im getting 6:1 at all. I wonder if you abuse this they knock you down to +555, or maybe youre just sharp at parlays

I never calculated the lines I used in my example, just used NHL because of the cheaper lines on the ML. If you did this with your freeplay, why not use NHL instead of NCAAF
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Ya see they have you on the good lineset, I don't have 10c NHL lines everything 20c. Just keep quiet and enjoy
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very smart and clever option 4 I will do it when I get my free play
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Ya see they have you on the good lineset, I don't have 10c NHL lines everything 20c. Just keep quiet and enjoy

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thanks for the 5 points and nomination lou
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Old 10-19-09, 02:13 PM   #22
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But will they let me make a 5 team teaser withn the free play?
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But will they let me make a 5 team teaser withn the free play?
You're not allowed to do a 5team teaser. Why would you want to?
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You're not allowed to do a 5team teaser. Why would you want to?
1.) Risking it big on parlays/teasers because this is a small amount and you want to hit it big. Remember, we are trying to get a bankroll started here, so lets throw this option out.

Option 1

I will do Option number 4
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1.) Risking it big on parlays/teasers because this is a small amount and you want to hit it big. Remember, we are trying to get a bankroll started here, so lets throw this option out.

Option 1

I will do Option number 4
Good point. I guess "big" was the wrong word. I meant just throwing it all on 3 +200ML dogs or any random 3 team parlay etc etc

The hardest part is making sure you have all 8.

Good luck with your freeplay
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If you are allowed to use money lines for your free plays and have money at another book, the smart thing to do is use the free play on what you think is a hopeless money line dog and bet the favorite in that game for real money at the other book.

Then again, people using that approach are now overfunded at one book and underfunded at another if they used Raiders/Eagles yesterday, but seriously, that was like a 1 in 30 occurrence.
LOL no I used the Jet's bills and now have 800 in a book I'd rather not have 800 in .... but that is life in the big city.
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Whatever you do READ the free play rules. Some books will allow money lines, some will allow -200 to +200 some will allow parlays and teasers, some won't. Know what you can and cannot do before you get anywhere close to betting.
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I just need 300 points for my $100 freeplay with betpheonix
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I just need 300 points for my $100 freeplay with betpheonix
go bet in the points book. thats what i do. adds up fast
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I just need 300 points for my $100 freeplay with betpheonix
You can do it with the 165pt $50 freeplay. Use 6.25 for each parlay though.
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Old 10-19-09, 08:48 PM   #31
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Bump for late night crew
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Old 10-19-09, 08:57 PM   #32
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Good stuff poker,this what i do

4.) Risking $100 on a 3 team parlay in which every team is involved. The key here is to find the lowest possible lines, i.e 10 cent lines. There are 8 combinations of 3 team parlays: 2^3 or:
Team A vs Team B, Team A vs Team B, Team A vs Team B where the commas denote different games.
The outcomes would either be: AAA, ABA, ABB, AAB, BBB, BBA, BAB, BAA.
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good thread... another thing if you are trying to get a fixed amount is increase the wager slightly on the "all favorites" parlay and decrease the wager slightly on the "3 dogs"...
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Old 10-19-09, 09:09 PM   #34
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I have heard of this but I thought quite a few books dont allow it?
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Old 10-19-09, 10:19 PM   #35
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Books don't like it.
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