[jjgold]

Without going there?

Only Canada or UK

Thanks

[JuiceTrading]

Try something like these:

http://www.offshore-companies.co.uk/
http://www.offshorecompany.com/

[Sam Odom]

JJ, contact X (mod at rx) she may help u out

[jjgold]

Sammy?

[Sam Odom]

Sammy?

Xpanda, she posted a long list of banks u can open an acct with from ur computer

[jjgold]

thanks Sammy

[louis]

To open a bank accont in Canada or the UK you must be a resident. The interesting question is how is resident defined.

You must have an address in these countries and be their legally.

I have heard that one can be a seasonal visitor to Canada for up to six months per year as long as they maintain their permanent residence in the U.S. and do not work. Someone like this who has a vacation home in Canada - and can proove it - or an apartment lease may very well be able to get a provincial id card, and use that to get a bank account.

[onlooker]

Last week he opened over 100 and wanted to know what was up.

Damn, I wonder why.

[David]

If you are a US citizen resident in Canada how do you get a Canadian ID?

[louis]

I agree you don't have to be a Canadian Citizen.

But you have to be a Canadian Resident.

My conclusion that you must be a Canadian Resident (that is live in Canada) is based on the ID requirements to open up an account that seem to be posted on all the banks websites.

The banks require two ids, one from schedule A and one from schedule B. The IDs on Schedule A are all Canadian ID's - licenses, SIR cards, etc. etc. I suppose somone who is not a resident may be able to get one of these - with a Canadian address. The IDs on Schedule B includes foreign passports and licenses.

Provide a link to a bank that includes U.S. ids on the list of Schedule A, and you may change my mind.

[jjgold]

Do you have to go to Canada to open up the account?

Can I do it from NJ?

[rara51]

Louis,

That is absolutely positively not true.

Canada will open accts for US citizens. The UK, and the rest of Europe - you must show need (Own vacation property, work there, etc)

Royal bank of Canada, CIBC, HSBC, and Bank of Montreal will all open accounts utilizing your US address. By law they must use the address on your ID. You will need a passport and ID with address. HSBC is the only one that claims to report to the IRS, but obviously, who knows about that.

About a week ago the manager at RBC in Windsor near the bridge said he normally opens 1-2 US accts/week. Last week he opened over 100 and wanted to know what was up.

Sean

how do you know that HSBC will report to the irs?

[louis]

JJGold, you have to go to Canada to show them at least one Canadian ID in person.

The only exception is if you already have an account in a Canadian bank, you can write a check on that account to open up another account and won't have to go there.

Make sure you can get one of the ids on schedule A before going, or you will be dissapointed. Schedule A has already been predetermined by the Canadian government so it doesn't differ much from bank to bank.

[MAXWELL]

So if I go to a RBC bank in N.C. and open an account, then change my address to a canada address.....would that work as well?????I could just fill out a mail forwarding form and have all the mail that was sent to my canada address forwarded to my N.C. address. But I would still need to get a Canada ID to process a cashout.....Thats when I go online to Fluxcards and have them make me one. Any thoughts?????How do they track you IP address???will they know im in NC??? Any thoughts or ideas are welcome.

[BuddyBear]

To be honest...i am not an expert or anything...but it would seem a lot easier if you knew someone in another country who could set things up for you. Seems like way to many hassles and dead ends if you try to open up one yourself.

[MAXWELL]

great info. thank you. looks like I gotta head up to windsor. Not an awful trip.Parents live in Motown. Its just so dmn cold up there this time of year....LOL....
MAX

[MAXWELL]

INCREASE.... How the hell do i get a damn canada phone #
how do i get a canada IP address.??????

[BuddyBear]

great info. thank you. looks like I gotta head up to windsor. Not an awful trip.Parents live in Motown. Its just so dmn cold up there this time of year....LOL....
MAX

I grew up about 30 minutes from there...nice city. However, their sportsbook is an absolute joke.

[MAXWELL]

thats what i here . they only take 2 team parlays. WTF is that.

[BuddyBear]

thats what i here . they only take 2 team parlays. WTF is that.

The idea is good b/c Windsor is right near the detroit metro area. However, a max of $200 bets coupled with mandatory minimum of a parlay 2 is the dumbest thing i've ever heard of.

[MAXWELL]

And when you come back from Canada after 90 minutes - be prepared to be drilled by customs...

But sir...I just went over to gamble in windsor. I just happened to get a new cell phone and a new bank account.
Thank you for the advice. The dial up is genius!!!!!

Max

[louis]

I read the thread by xpanda and I'm not convinced. Calling up a bank and saying can a US citizen open up an account, you need to be sure the bank isn't assuming the US citizen is legally residing in Canada when they say "yea sure".

The fact is there are regulations in Canada that all banks must follow concerning what ID is acceptable. This ID is required regardless of whether or not the account is opened online or not. If anyone wants to know what is required, check out settlement.org and do a search on bank accounts.

I know that Windsor is accross the river from Detroit, and people party there. They also party in Niagra Falls Canada.

If you were able to go to Windsor and open up bank accounts, I'll take you at your word, but the banks were not following the regulations. If the banks in Windsor are not going to follow the regulations then absolutely head on up there. Its worth a try, and I certainly will the next time I'm there in Detroit next month, and I will let you all know how it goes, but I'm not optimistic.

Getting a driver's license certainly is possible with U.S. ID but you have to lie on the application and tell them you are living in Canada, which is a crime.

[louis]

This is from settlement.org, and pretty much matches all the bank websites, include royal bank of canada:

Acceptable Identification When Opening a Personal Bank Account
When you are opening a personal bank account, you need to show acceptable identification. You can use:

any two pieces of identification from List A or List B below, one of which must be from List A; or
one piece from List A below, if your identity can be confirmed by a client in good standing with the bank or by a person of good standing in the community where the bank is located.
This identification must be original (not a copy), valid and in good condition.

List A
Acceptable pieces of identification are:

a valid driver's licence issued within Canada;
a current Canadian passport;
a Certificate of Canadian Citizenship or Certification of Naturalization;
a Permanent Resident Card
Citizenship and Immigration Canada Form IMM1000 or IMM1442;
EDITOR'S NOTE
Some banks indicate on their web site that the Confirmation of Permanent Residence (IMM 5292) document is acceptable identification, while othes do not. The Confirmation of Permanent Residence (IMM 5292) is NOT a permissible form of identification under the federal law. Some financial institutions may choose to accept this as a form of identification during the account opening process, some may not.

However, the Financial Consumer Agency of Canada (FCAC) has indicated to us that, if the IMM 5292 is refused as acceptable identification when trying to open a bank account, there is nothing they could do for you.

Contact the bank you wish to open an account with directly to find out more. Here is a list of banks that indicate, on their web site, that they will accept the IMM 5292 as acceptable identification:

Royal Bank
Scotia Bank


a birth certificate issued in Canada;
a Social Insurance Number (SIN) card issued by the Government of Canada;
an Old Age Security card issued by the Government of Canada;
a Certificate of Indian Status issued by the Government of Canada;
a provincial health insurance card; or
a document or card with your signature and photograph on it issued by:
the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia;
Alberta Registries;
Saskatchewan Government Insurance;
the Department of Service Nova Scotia and Municipal Relations;
the Department of Transportation and Public Works of the Province of Prince Edward Island;
Service New Brunswick;
the Department of Government Services and Lands of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador;
the Department of Transportation of the Northwest Territories; or
the Department of Community Government and Transportation of the Territory of Nunavut.
List B
Acceptable pieces of identification are:

an employee identity card with a photograph from an employer well known in the community;
a signed automated banking machine (ABM) card or client card issued by a member of the Canadian Payments Association;
a signed CC issued by a member of the Canadian Payments Association;
a signed Canadian Institute for the Blind (CNIB) client card with a photograph; or
a current foreign passport.

[louis]

Calling them on the phone doesn't convince me, either you or xpanda, because it is so easy for them to make assumptions and the person being spoken to not the same person who actually sets up accounts.

But the fact you were actually able to set up the accounts does in fact convince me, and is valuable information.

It convinces me they are either being sloppy and not following the regulations (most likely) or there is some loophole I'm not aware of (less likely in my opinion).

I will be in Detroit next month and will be in Windsor with my US passport, driver's license, and address and will give it a try.

[jjgold]

Seems easier just to get a credit account with a local agent or set up an account offshore and you do not have to go there.