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    Default What makes a sportsbook deserve an A+ rating?

    I am just curious regarding the A+ ratings of certain sportsbooks.

    A+ is a "pefect" rating and so there should not be any problems at all with the sportsbook.

    Pinnacle and 5Dimes are rated A+ but they charge $15 for withdrawals. It was easy to deposit to Pinnacle and 5Dimes but it seems that withdrawing money is totally a different story.

    Other "C" books do not charge anything for withdrawals.

    WSEX is A+ but you cannot withdraw by moneybookers even though it says you can on their site. And the minimum bets of WSEX are quite high for a recreational player.

    I get faster and better "customer service" at Expekt, Bet365, Gamebookers but none of these are rated A+. How about Interwetten?

    I don't see any reason as to why a sportsbook should charge a fee if the deposit and payment method is through moneybookers (which has its fees already).

    I do not know about BetCris yet (haven't withdrawn) but I like their site so far. Having a "summary" of your balance is nice (which is confusing at Bet365).

    How about SportingBet? Why the D+?

    Are the A+ ratings dependent on the "location" (USA, UK, ASIA, etc) of the customer? Could it be A+ for USA but not A+ for UK or could it be C+ for USA and A+ for Europe?

    Just trying to understand the ratings clearly.

    cheers!

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    Does it really matter now?

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    The minimums at WSEX are too high???

    I believe they are $10 for straiights and $5 for parlays, unless they have gone up. If you are betting less, you shouldn't be playing at a sportsbook, you should be betting with friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by new2betting
    I am just curious regarding the A+ ratings of certain sportsbooks.

    A+ is a "pefect" rating and so there should not be any problems at all with the sportsbook.

    Pinnacle and 5Dimes are rated A+ but they charge $15 for withdrawals. It was easy to deposit to Pinnacle and 5Dimes but it seems that withdrawing money is totally a different story.

    Other "C" books do not charge anything for withdrawals.

    WSEX is A+ but you cannot withdraw by moneybookers even though it says you can on their site. And the minimum bets of WSEX are quite high for a recreational player.

    I get faster and better "customer service" at Expekt, Bet365, Gamebookers but none of these are rated A+. How about Interwetten?

    I don't see any reason as to why a sportsbook should charge a fee if the deposit and payment method is through moneybookers (which has its fees already).

    I do not know about BetCris yet (haven't withdrawn) but I like their site so far. Having a "summary" of your balance is nice (which is confusing at Bet365).

    How about SportingBet? Why the D+?

    Are the A+ ratings dependent on the "location" (USA, UK, ASIA, etc) of the customer? Could it be A+ for USA but not A+ for UK or could it be C+ for USA and A+ for Europe?

    Just trying to understand the ratings clearly.

    cheers!

    if free withdrawls are important to you, betcris is not the place for you.

    i don't think the cost of withdrawls should have an effect on ratings. pinnacle gave(gives i suppose) a free withdrawl per month, after that $15 each. that's pretty damn fair
    Last edited by durito; 01-26-07 at 04:09 PM.

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    Why would a $5 bettor do all this research into sportsbooks?

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    Anyway, you're asking for clean, shiny traffic signs in the middle of a huge sandstorm.

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    I am also very curious about how they think about the rating system sometimes.

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    It is not really about the withdrawal fees since I know that to transfer money from a bank account to lets say moneybookers could cost wire fees.

    But for example, Cris has an "announcement" on their withdrawal page that it could take 1 week to withdraw funds. Whether they got affected by Neteller or not, how come the other books that have Neteller, Moneybookers, etc (simlar payment options) do not have this delay.

    It just seems that books that catered to the US players were the ones affected in terms of operations efficiency etc and could no longer operate as an A+ sportsbook. And other books rated at C+ and above are actually performing more efficiently than the rated A+ books (that got affected) right now.

    Just an opinion.

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    Pinnacle really deserves their A+.

    Did the usual process at Pinnacle:
    1) Opened account - easy
    2) Funded via Moneybookers - easy
    3) Made some bets -easy
    4) Choice of bets and odds - better than most books
    5) Won the bets - hard of course
    6) Withdrew via moneybookers - easy within minutes money was in my account without any fuss etc etc etc. Withdrawal was FREE

    This A+ I cannot say for WSEX which allowed me to deposit via Moneybookers but not withdraw via Moneybookers (even though it states on their site that you can), and in effect, I view this as a misrepresentation and non-transparency issue. The only way I could get money was via wire but I am not in the US nor am I a US Citizen and so moneybookers should have been fine. It is just clearly a "stalling" tactic on their part.
    Last edited by new2betting; 01-27-07 at 05:44 PM.

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