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    Default Next major sportsbook to go

    According to tradesports they have some live odds up

    WSEX +900
    CRIS +230
    BODOG +230
    GREEK +570
    SB +330
    None of the above to leave this year +330


    Odds will probably change...heres the link

    http://www.intrade.com/aav2/trading/...wExpired=false

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    None of the above looks like a really good bet....

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    Sportsbook.com would be my bet.

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    Cris has low odds, interesting

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    Notice BETUS is not on the list or I'd bet my house.
    They would be a clear favorite and odds would be to low to play.
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    I'm a little worried about CRIS. In an uncharacteristic move, they have slapped limits on a few people in the last week. I could be over-analyzing but it feels like things are tightening up and they are moving in a smaller-time direction.

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    Sportsbook would be mine because the fellow behind that deal is in the $100m Plus club.

    Bodog would be a bit of a shock. They dont have enough biz outside the US and have never taken canadians.
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    Yeah, but SB just reorg'd and I would think anyone who stayed on board was willing to go through the hassles. That's why they made 2 seperate entities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyBear
    None of the above looks like a really good bet....
    My thoughts exactly double B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knicknut
    What about themselves (Tradesports)?

    They'd be my pick. Most of their business is from the US, and they're slow to adjust to new situations. Not much liquidity unless it's a nationally televised game. At one point you have to start wondering if it's worth it. And it remains to be seen if they will stand up to US pressure.
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    I am going with Cris

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold
    I am going with Cris
    Thanks for the kiss of death JJ......I just put all my eggs in that friggin basket!!

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    I can not say... anything can happen as we've seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by knicknut
    What about themselves (Tradesports)?

    My first thought too. By putting odds up on all the powerhouses closing it implies that Tradesports will outlast them and be here for players to cash that ticket. Clever prop.

    If the bet was which sportsbook was to stiff a player, I would go with Sportsbook. Every time there is a company change, player accounts and pending wagers disappear. If the bet is simply which book closes its business, I wouldn't put any cash on sportsbook.com. They have the highest CC approval in the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer
    My first thought too. By putting odds up on all the powerhouses closing it implies that Tradesports will outlast them and be here for players to cash that ticket. Clever prop.

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    Markets are posted at the request of players. There is a special forum where you do it . This was posted in the forum 2 or 3 days ahead of it becoming a market.

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    Bodog spend money to acquire usa customers in the purchase of wwts/bowmans us based clients

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    Cris is more of a square book now caering to worlwide players which makes them a great canddate to leave ths usa market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold
    Cris is more of a square book now caering to worlwide players which makes them a great canddate to leave ths usa market.
    Whats with you and this CRIS kick you're on today?I hope you're full of shit like most think but this is bad karma dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knicknut
    What about themselves (Tradesports)?


    Well, there is a school of thought that exchanges exist in a loop hole of the anti onlin gaming law, since they don't actually book any action. Tradesports is a marketplace that allows others to wager with one an other.

    If the DoJ takes the same interpretation, Tradesports (and other exchanges have no reason to leave).

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    Actually I think Bodog is in trouble... They advertise exclusively in America and they have basically reputable no way to deposit or withdrawl funds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by koko
    Well, there is a school of thought that exchanges exist in a loop hole of the anti onlin gaming law, since they don't actually book any action. Tradesports is a marketplace that allows others to wager with one an other.

    If the DoJ takes the same interpretation, Tradesports (and other exchanges have no reason to leave).
    I remember seeing a press release from Trade Exchange Network saying they sold TradeSports to a private party. All non-sports markets could be found at Intrade and would no longer be at TS. It looked pretty clear that they were trying to separate a potentially legal commodities exchange with the site that traded on the sports betting market.

    Anyway...It looks like they canned that idea as the About Us still shows they own TS. Maybe lawyers told them it was too late to make a difference.
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    Here it is... Apparently it was announcing their intentions and it is still a go.

    Dublin, December 21, 2006: With effect from January 1st, 2007, Trade Exchange Network, owner and operator of TradeSports and Intrade, has agreed to divest its sports related business to a newly formed company, TradeSports Ltd., for an undisclosed sum.

    The companies will cooperate fully to make sure there is no inconvenience to members and have agreed an initial two month timeframe to complete the transaction.

    Commenting on the transaction, John Delaney, CEO of Trade Exchange Network said...
    "After growing our combined sports and non-sports markets aggressively for five years, this development represents a significant transaction for the company. We are very thankful to our loyal sports traders and assure them that the transition will be both painless and positive for them. We are certain that TradeSports Ltd. will build on our achievements and that sports traders will receive a peerless service."

    Trade Exchange Network, through its www.intrade.com platform, will continue to offer the broadest selection and deepest liquidity in real money prediction markets. Intrade will now look to aggressively extend the prediction markets and services it offers. The company will reorganize its trading and related services activities into two separate business units.

    According to Delaney... "Non-sports prediction markets have amazing further potential, where we have a leading position and where we offer maximum value. We are convinced that traders and data users will see benefits very soon."

    TradeSports Ltd., through the www.tradesports.com and www.tradebetx.com platforms, will continue to offer all the sports markets currently available on TradeSports, and more besides. TradeSports will only offer sports related markets. Non-sports markets will only be available on the www.intrade.com platform after 28th February 2007.

    How will this change affect our members and affiliates?
    As TradeSports and Intrade will be operated as separate independent platforms, members will need to have an account on each platform in order to continue trading both sports and non-sports contracts. Members will automatically get a second account if they have traded on both categories on or before February 28th.

    We will publish a special edition of our customer newsletter during January, and it will include more specific details but for now, it is business as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer
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    Anyway...It looks like they canned that idea as the About Us still shows they own TS. Maybe lawyers told them it was too late to make a difference.
    It has happened already. On 17th Jan (or so they told me ) . Sports bets only are available at Tradesports all none sports have moved to intrade. Still seams some connection but I reckon it will complete in next few days. It wasnt going to happen till end of Feb but they paniced last week when everything was going on and brought things forward.

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    ah ok. Looks like nothing changed with servers either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer
    were trying to separate a potentially legal commodities exchange with the site that traded on the sports betting market.
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    I don't see the distinction. So betting isn't illegal as long as you bet on the right things.

    Not sure how they could go after Intrade while letting this go on: http://www.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John
    Sportsbook would be mine because the fellow behind that deal is in the $100m Plus club.

    Bodog would be a bit of a shock. They dont have enough biz outside the US and have never taken canadians.
    I've noticed the Bodog banner has disappeared from the top.

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    Most banners will be down at forums even if they still operate, no one wants exposure anymore.

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