[jjgold]

Players play no defense anymore

[SlickFazzer]

sport is marketed poorly.....

[Nicky Santoro]

i think you have it backwards. that was the case back in the late 80's, early 90's.. now it's all defence.. teams don't try to score anymore. all teams want to do is hold a 2-1 lead by chewing up the clock and not score..

hockey used to be good, but because of this, it's now shit.

[jjgold]

Nicky so many games are 2-1, 1-1, 2-0 after 1st period now

Years ago most were 1-0 or 0-0

Nicky they play with no heart anymore, all players more worried about getting laid by groupies and drinking.

[CaneDawg]

for me..........gretzky retired

[element1286]

The hockey knowledge oozes from you, JJ.

[jjgold]

4-3 second period phila

that is bush league hockey

[fiveteamer]

Colonel Mustard by the fireplace.

[keyboarding]

When they try to open the game up (no two line pass, 4 on 4 overtime, more penalties for grabbing) they **** it up with ridiculous goalie equipment and giving points to teams when they don't win.

[acarmelo1]

We need more hockey movies

[mmike032]

never watched a hockey game in my life.
Why is there no hockey in the south?

[acarmelo1]

Originally Posted by mmike032

never watched a hockey game in my life.
Why is there no hockey in the south?

MMM

NO ICE?

[CaneDawg]

love slapshot

classic sports flick

[mmike032]

Originally Posted by acarmelo1

MMM

NO ICE?

that is correct sir.
hence I have never met anyone interested in hockey.
hell we only get snow flurries about every 5-8 yrs

[Matt Rain]

Originally Posted by mmike032

never watched a hockey game in my life.
Why is there no hockey in the south?

[mmike032]

I would be in the very south of the diagram.
Atlanta has a team but not televised here.
not alot of kids here signing up for pee wee hockey.

[Stacocakes]

Gary Bettman is who killed hockey

[pavyracer]

Absence of black players is what killed hockey. All major sports have blacks dominating.

[Panekkkk]

There are more goals because players are faster, younger, stronger. Simple as that. Small rule changes here and there have also been created to open the game up more and encourage more scoring. That is not a bad thing.

The days of New Jersey 1-0 shutdown hockey are over ... Thank **** for that.

[Nicky Santoro]

overs off to a decent start, but don't let that fool you.. just like every year, you just wait till a weekend in Jan or Feb when on a sat, the unders go 12-2 and the grand salami goes 27 goals under the total with all 2-1, 1-0 and 3-1 games across. then you'll be the late sat night game over thinking it's due and that game ends 2-1 in a shoot out..

then the next day on SUN you bet every over thinking they are due to explod with goals and guess what, unders go 6-0.. and the unders continue to clean up the next 4 days going 18-6 and now your great start of overs are down the drain..

this happens every year, like clockwork. ever since i started betting hockey way back then, it never changes...there's always that 1 to 2 week period where no one scores in the NHL and unders go on a 74-24 run.. NO JOKE..

don't get too excited yet about this decent overs start.. The NHL will go through a very under period.. when, i don't know.. but expect it..

[keyboarding]

Tennis? MMA?

[element1286]

Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro

overs off to a decent start, but don't let that fool you.. just like every year, you just wait till a weekend in Jan or Feb when on a sat, the unders go 12-2 and the grand salami goes 27 goals under the total with all 2-1, 1-0 and 3-1 games across. then you'll be the late sat night game over thinking it's due and that game ends 2-1 in a shoot out..

then the next day on SUN you bet every over thinking they are due to explod with goals and guess what, unders go 6-0.. and the unders continue to clean up the next 4 days going 18-6 and now your great start of overs are down the drain..

this happens every year, like clockwork. ever since i started betting hockey way back then, it never changes...there's always that 1 to 2 week period where no one scores in the NHL and unders go on a 74-24 run.. NO JOKE..

don't get too excited yet about this decent overs start.. The NHL will go through a very under period.. when, i don't know.. but expect it..

Everything goes in cycles, but overall I think goals are going to be up this year from last.

[Nicky Santoro]

fair enough of a prediction... but i will make my prediction.. even if goals do go up, all that will do is that books will adjust the totals.. so if goals go up by a half goal a game, totals will go from 5.5 to 6, that's all.. whereas at the end, my prediction is that overs and unders will end very very close to 50%, maybe 48%, maybe 52%, maybe 47%, maybe 53%, but they will end up very close to 50% on unders and overs.. thus, turning every -110 bettor into a loser at the end no matter if they bet overs or unders..

there's no way around it..

[GETMONEYKID]

bet the salami over every day

[element1286]

Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro

fair enough of a prediction... but i will make my prediction.. even if goals do go up, all that will do is that books will adjust the totals.. so if goals go up by a half goal a game, totals will go from 5.5 to 6, that's all.. whereas at the end, my prediction is that overs and unders will end very very close to 50%, maybe 48%, maybe 52%, maybe 47%, maybe 53%, but they will end up very close to 50% on unders and overs.. thus, turning every -110 bettor into a loser at the end no matter if they bet overs or unders..

there's no way around it..

Agreed.

[Deuce]

Too many teams, goalies too good, too many new rules, not enough fighting.

[Flying Dutchman]

The strike...

[Al Masters]

When they made all the players wear helmuts.

[reno cool]

Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro

i think you have it backwards. that was the case back in the late 80's, early 90's.. now it's all defence.. teams don't try to score anymore. all teams want to do is hold a 2-1 lead by chewing up the clock and not score..

hockey used to be good, but because of this, it's now shit.

great game today. Philly-Wash
that's what I like to see. Let the players showcase some skill. Say no to grinding.

[reno cool]

If Americans don't get it, **** em.

[mathdotcom]

NHL has strict blackout rules, as you can see

[egr99]

Originally Posted by jjgold

Players play no defense anymore

let's see...

1- midget commissioner who doesn't know jackshit
2- less canadian teams
3- too large equipement
4- too many teams, dilluted talent
5- guaranteed contracts, should be NFL style make them earn it.
6- Idiot owners

egr99

[beach nut]

Piss poor TV coverage and the strike.

[Rich Boy]

Too many cocky European players

[RabidDog]

Poor people don't like sports that can't afford.. Anyone can afford Ball or steal one and find a basket...