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Old 10-06-09, 08:24 PM   #1
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Players play no defense anymore
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Old 10-06-09, 08:26 PM   #2
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sport is marketed poorly.....
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Old 10-06-09, 08:27 PM   #3
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i think you have it backwards. that was the case back in the late 80's, early 90's.. now it's all defence.. teams don't try to score anymore. all teams want to do is hold a 2-1 lead by chewing up the clock and not score..

hockey used to be good, but because of this, it's now shit.
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Old 10-06-09, 08:30 PM   #4
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Nicky so many games are 2-1, 1-1, 2-0 after 1st period now

Years ago most were 1-0 or 0-0

Nicky they play with no heart anymore, all players more worried about getting laid by groupies and drinking.
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Old 10-06-09, 08:33 PM   #5
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for me..........gretzky retired
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Old 10-06-09, 08:33 PM   #6
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The hockey knowledge oozes from you, JJ.
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Old 10-06-09, 08:41 PM   #7
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4-3 second period phila

that is bush league hockey
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Old 10-06-09, 08:43 PM   #8
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Old 10-06-09, 08:44 PM   #9
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When they try to open the game up (no two line pass, 4 on 4 overtime, more penalties for grabbing) they **** it up with ridiculous goalie equipment and giving points to teams when they don't win.
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Old 10-06-09, 08:44 PM   #10
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We need more hockey movies
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Old 10-06-09, 08:45 PM   #11
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never watched a hockey game in my life.
Why is there no hockey in the south?
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Old 10-06-09, 08:50 PM   #12
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never watched a hockey game in my life.
Why is there no hockey in the south?

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Old 10-06-09, 08:52 PM   #13
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love slapshot

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Old 10-06-09, 08:53 PM   #14
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that is correct sir.
hence I have never met anyone interested in hockey.
hell we only get snow flurries about every 5-8 yrs
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Old 10-06-09, 09:19 PM   #16
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I would be in the very south of the diagram.
Atlanta has a team but not televised here.
not alot of kids here signing up for pee wee hockey.
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Old 10-06-09, 10:48 PM   #17
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Gary Bettman is who killed hockey
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Old 10-06-09, 10:53 PM   #18
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Absence of black players is what killed hockey. All major sports have blacks dominating.
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Old 10-06-09, 11:01 PM   #19
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There are more goals because players are faster, younger, stronger. Simple as that. Small rule changes here and there have also been created to open the game up more and encourage more scoring. That is not a bad thing.

The days of New Jersey 1-0 shutdown hockey are over ... Thank **** for that.
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Old 10-06-09, 11:04 PM   #20
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overs off to a decent start, but don't let that fool you.. just like every year, you just wait till a weekend in Jan or Feb when on a sat, the unders go 12-2 and the grand salami goes 27 goals under the total with all 2-1, 1-0 and 3-1 games across. then you'll be the late sat night game over thinking it's due and that game ends 2-1 in a shoot out..

then the next day on SUN you bet every over thinking they are due to explod with goals and guess what, unders go 6-0.. and the unders continue to clean up the next 4 days going 18-6 and now your great start of overs are down the drain..

this happens every year, like clockwork. ever since i started betting hockey way back then, it never changes...there's always that 1 to 2 week period where no one scores in the NHL and unders go on a 74-24 run.. NO JOKE..

don't get too excited yet about this decent overs start.. The NHL will go through a very under period.. when, i don't know.. but expect it..
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Old 10-06-09, 11:05 PM   #21
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Tennis? MMA?
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Old 10-06-09, 11:08 PM   #22
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overs off to a decent start, but don't let that fool you.. just like every year, you just wait till a weekend in Jan or Feb when on a sat, the unders go 12-2 and the grand salami goes 27 goals under the total with all 2-1, 1-0 and 3-1 games across. then you'll be the late sat night game over thinking it's due and that game ends 2-1 in a shoot out..

then the next day on SUN you bet every over thinking they are due to explod with goals and guess what, unders go 6-0.. and the unders continue to clean up the next 4 days going 18-6 and now your great start of overs are down the drain..

this happens every year, like clockwork. ever since i started betting hockey way back then, it never changes...there's always that 1 to 2 week period where no one scores in the NHL and unders go on a 74-24 run.. NO JOKE..

don't get too excited yet about this decent overs start.. The NHL will go through a very under period.. when, i don't know.. but expect it..
Everything goes in cycles, but overall I think goals are going to be up this year from last.
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Old 10-06-09, 11:19 PM   #23
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fair enough of a prediction... but i will make my prediction.. even if goals do go up, all that will do is that books will adjust the totals.. so if goals go up by a half goal a game, totals will go from 5.5 to 6, that's all.. whereas at the end, my prediction is that overs and unders will end very very close to 50%, maybe 48%, maybe 52%, maybe 47%, maybe 53%, but they will end up very close to 50% on unders and overs.. thus, turning every -110 bettor into a loser at the end no matter if they bet overs or unders..

there's no way around it..
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Old 10-06-09, 11:20 PM   #24
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bet the salami over every day
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Old 10-06-09, 11:25 PM   #25
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fair enough of a prediction... but i will make my prediction.. even if goals do go up, all that will do is that books will adjust the totals.. so if goals go up by a half goal a game, totals will go from 5.5 to 6, that's all.. whereas at the end, my prediction is that overs and unders will end very very close to 50%, maybe 48%, maybe 52%, maybe 47%, maybe 53%, but they will end up very close to 50% on unders and overs.. thus, turning every -110 bettor into a loser at the end no matter if they bet overs or unders..

there's no way around it..
Agreed.
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Old 10-06-09, 11:31 PM   #26
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Old 10-06-09, 11:38 PM   #27
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The strike...
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Old 10-06-09, 11:56 PM   #28
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When they made all the players wear helmuts.
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i think you have it backwards. that was the case back in the late 80's, early 90's.. now it's all defence.. teams don't try to score anymore. all teams want to do is hold a 2-1 lead by chewing up the clock and not score..

hockey used to be good, but because of this, it's now shit.
great game today. Philly-Wash
that's what I like to see. Let the players showcase some skill. Say no to grinding.
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Old 10-07-09, 12:18 AM   #30
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Old 10-07-09, 12:18 AM   #31
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Players play no defense anymore
let's see...

1- midget commissioner who doesn't know jackshit
2- less canadian teams
3- too large equipement
4- too many teams, dilluted talent
5- guaranteed contracts, should be NFL style make them earn it.
6- Idiot owners

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Old 10-07-09, 01:47 AM   #33
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Piss poor TV coverage and the strike.
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Old 10-07-09, 01:51 AM   #34
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Old 10-07-09, 02:00 AM   #35
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