[Jay Edgar]

Out for a very nice 2 hour dinner.

Then back to the screen to be reminded that I am unable to locate a single site on the entire World Wide Web that will tell me what the NBA moneylines were, at close, on the games that went to post while I was out.

I vaguely remember reading something about the even more jazzed-up SBR Lines, but that seems to be no help, either.

[Wheell]

Bodog can give u a general idea of where the line went.

[onlòóker]

Here are multiple books in Vegas with the closing line listed. Not sure if you can use this or not, but its a start.

You can click each game, and see a offshore movement as well.

You need to hurry, before they remove them for tomorrows games.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/las-vegas/money/

[Jay Edgar]

Gentlemen, thank you.

Mildly embarrased not to have thought of either of those on my own.

[Wheell]

Mildly embarresed that his idea was so much better than mine.

[onlòóker]

No big deal guys. I use that link to compare things out here. Its on a 15 minute delay, but it gives me a good idea of where the better lines are, and who is moving what.

[Jay Edgar]

I still think it is remarkable and somewhat suspicious that historical pointspread and totals lines are widely available, but finding historical moneylines is virtually impossible.

On a related note, in my daily thread the qualifying moneyline plays are up 46 units YTD and the blind ATS plays are up 23 units YTD on virtually the same total investment.

Somebody else out there might have the same suspicion I do -- moneylines are where it's at.

[bigboydan]

Heres something for you Jay that will give you historical ML's

[Jay Edgar]

Thank you BBD.
Thank you SBR.

Woo-hoo

the quest is over!!

[Jay Edgar]

Let me take that back.

Now the historical pointspread information is banned to US viewers.

With all due respect, this makes no sense. SBR Lines is available, this page is available

http://www.sbrforum.com/Scores+Odds/NBA.aspx


but if you try to click on the history of the pointspread, you get blocked.

Do the people giving you legal advice have any comprehension of . . . . .well --- let me just leave it there.
Do the people giving you legal advice have any comprehension?

Whatever you are paying for legal advice, it's too much.

You have now taken away the single unique value-added of your information service that I can see. And left everything else, equally related to wagering, in place.

[Mudcat]

Originally Posted by Jay Edgar

Somebody else out there might have the same suspicion I do -- moneylines are where it's at.

I second the motion.

[maxpower79]

The SBR moneyline archives are great. Thanks!

But I could only see the moneylines on the favorites. Is there a way to view the dogs as well? Or am I just being blind?

[Bill Dozer]

The history assumes you know the books straddle. I can see how that would be tough on the MLs w/ graduated pricing. You can expect the dog prices before baseball opening day.

We will also have 1st and 2nd halves recorded for NBA and NFL.