Does P. Rivers throw 400+ yards on a Sunday rout?

09-22-09 09:17 PM

It's pretty sad the CHARGERS didn't win at BALT last Sunday-- considering Phillip Rivers reigned over 400 passing yards. Just poor, mental errors by Rivers cost SAN DIEGO a 2-0 start this year...
that, and Ray Lewis practically IN the huddle.

SD backers have to hope Rivers gets his head screwed on. No more INTs. No more 0-5 in the red zone (BALT game).

Will the MIA defense have trouble against Rivers and the pass? MIA certainly looked able to defend the rush-- but IND wasnt coming with a whole lot. Sproles alone may pose much more production than the COLTS run game.

The DOLPHIN'S D averages 254 passing yards, and 23 points.

They also have averaged a shameful 6.4 yards per play
(4th worst in the league). I think Manning's huge bombs on MNF is why this number is so huge. The question is, will MIA improve their pass defense before this game.

How will MIAMI's offense perform? Pennington seemed to be off the mark countless times against IND. MIAMI had much better "control" on the ground... they pretty much ran right through the COLTS.

While the CHARGERS are counting on Darren Sproles, the fish will have literally a half dozen guys they can count on to run the ball for first downs.

Philip Rivers had a grand day against BAL, but the CHARGERS seemed pretty depleted on defense.

The RAVENS looked very able to run the ball against these CHARGERS-- something you have to believe MIAMI is waiting to do this Sunday. Shawne Merriman still has no sacks and pressure on Flacco hardly existed from the d-line.

This MIA team is highly pissed off, and looking for their first win this Sunday.

Lean:
MIAMI +225

pavyracer · 09-22-09 09:18 PM

Miami offense can't outscore any team right now.

GiveMeaBJ · 09-22-09 09:26 PM

You saw what Peyton did to that defense. There are big holes in Miami's passing game. The Chargers run defense is better then what it has been the first two games. This is a good match up for the Chargers IMO. The Dolphins won't run all over them like they did to the Colts.

09-22-09 09:34 PM

Philip Rivers will not throw for 400 yards this sunday, last week was the only time he's done it in his career. The Chargers should make more of an effort to run the ball this week, plus I believe we'll (I'm a chargers fan) get a 4th quarter lead this week and run run run the rock in the 4th quarter. That Wildcat gimmick won't work forever and we saw it last year so we'll catch on. I am not even worried this week, maybe you want to wager some SBR points? By the way Shawne Merriman will get his first sack of the year this week (my favorite player in the NFL so I'm hoping at least). Last week he had one play where he had a perfect jump off the line forcing Flacco into an int, and I think he's finally getting back in his groove, though I haven't seen him bull rushing like he's capable of yet.

09-22-09 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by GiveMeaBJ

You saw what Peyton did to that defense. There are big holes in Miami's passing game.

It's true, Manning shredded them like a losing ticket. MIA could still make adjustments this week and become sharper. Manning got pass rushed quite a few times, but still made the big plays.

Can Phillip Rivers and Peyton Manning be even close to the same level of talent?

Originally Posted by nohuddleoffense

The Chargers should make more of an effort to run the ball this week, plus I believe we'll (I'm a chargers fan) get a 4th quarter lead this week and run run run the rock in the 4th quarter. That Wildcat gimmick won't work forever and we saw it last year so we'll catch on.

I didn't like the wildcat being used in pro, at first. But whether you've seen it or not, there are tri-threats when running this offense that can produce gains when MIA needs it most. Granted they might not get a 30yrd gain per play from it, but it should work for the fish to get the important first downs. It's up to Pennington to not lay an egg. Provided White doesn't ever throw MIA could produce.

I appreciate the feedback on this game. The forum-favorite CHARGERS may be the right play, but I see no value in the ML, it would have to be -6 which I won't do. I will be thinking about this one for a couple days.

09-22-09 10:24 PM

Oh by the way responding to your initial post (don't know why I didn't with my initial post)

You mentioned poor mental errors by Rivers costing the Chargers, I blame Norv Turner more, 4th down and 2 to go coming out in a goalline formation with no receivers and trying to power it up the middle with a dinged up offensive line and the smallest running back in the game against the Ravens defense, I was yelling at my TV screen when they came out in that formation. I know one play doesn't decide a game, but that was dumb to me. Also we will be better in the red zone, especially if LT is back (don't pay attention to injury reports untill closer to the day of the game so I don't know).

09-22-09 11:24 PM

yeah, LT just had a sprained ankle. But still- only 14 days to heal a sprained ankle? He could get a few snaps. I think the CHARGERS are better off with a healthy Sproles than a limping LT.

and Shawne Merriman has a groin issue. He'll be "limited in practice". You have to feel he won't be 100% for this game. He played hurt last year and look at his results

GiveMeaBJ · 09-23-09 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by chrisharvard01

It's true, Manning shredded them like a losing ticket. MIA could still make adjustments this week and become sharper. Manning got pass rushed quite a few times, but still made the big plays.

Can Phillip Rivers and Peyton Manning be even close to the same level of talent?

Absolutley not but keep in mind Rivers just threw for 400 yards against a defense as tough as the Ravens. Rivers had several huge games last year. He is certainy capable, but he is not Peyton. But he does have a better run game then Peyton which can't hurt.

09-23-09 12:34 AM

Of course a healthy sproles is a better than a gimpy LT, but if LT's even 80-90% he can still be effective in 3rd and short type situations, Sproles is just not a strong enough runner to get the tough yards.

I ain't worried about Merriman, I'm eager to see what our first round pick Larry English can do anyways. We did alright without him last year anyways, not as well as we could have done, but we did well.

jjgold · 09-23-09 05:05 AM

Passing every down is a sure way to lose because of turnovers and bad clock management

He will not throw for 400 yards either

09-24-09 10:56 AM

Friday the dolphins head to SAN DIEGO. They're leaving early to avoid jet lag.

Long way to travel after a monday game with IND.

As this game nears, I've decided to stick with my original lean;

DOLPHINS ML

After careful consideration, I must acknowledge this is Sparano v Turner. Is there any question the better coached team in this spot?

If SD gets a rout here, I won't berate myself or scream to the sky WHY DO THE FISH SUCK SO BAD.
Despite MIAs woes the first two weeks this season, I think they have a chance of being in this game. This is a value play.

The Chargers' last regular-season victory in this series was Dec. 27, 1993.

"After two games I don't think right now we're as good as you that cover us think or expect us to be, I don't think we're as good as what our fans want us to be." -Norv Turner

ttwarrior1 · 09-24-09 11:51 AM

no miami will hold on to the ball as much as they can and their corner are good

09-25-09 12:16 AM

i can't see rivers doing that

THEGREAT30 · 09-25-09 01:41 AM

Miami will leave 0-3.

Vincepcion · 09-25-09 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by chrisharvard01

and Shawne Merriman has a groin issue. He'll be "limited in practice". You have to feel he won't be 100% for this game. He played hurt last year and look at his results

lol Merriman played a total of 2 games last year

hanco21 · 09-25-09 04:12 AM

Chargers

stevek173 · 09-25-09 05:04 AM

I love my fish, but they get clobbered here

LT Profits · 09-25-09 05:10 AM

I actually think Miami +6 is an obvious call, given all the injuries the Chargers have on both lines.

And while there is a chance that Rivers can throw for over 400 again as long as the Dolphins have the lead or even just stay in the game, I think it is more likely that Miami will shorten the game by controlling the clock with the run against the depleted San Diego DL, making that feat by Rivers less likely.

varin18 · 09-25-09 05:45 AM

No way he will make it...

threeg5 · 09-25-09 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by LT Profits

I actually think Miami +6 is an obvious call, given all the injuries the Chargers have on both lines.

And while there is a chance that Rivers can throw for over 400 again as long as the Dolphins have the lead or even just stay in the game, I think it is more likely that Miami will shorten the game by controlling the clock with the run against the depleted San Diego DL, making that feat by Rivers less likely.

Miami controedl the clock for 45:07 against Indy who is only a little worse then San Diego in the RUN D dept.\
San Diego has a suspect Run Defense at best and Miami showed they can control the clock with ease. I would think that 17 is enough to beat San Diego SU and and 21 to cover the +6
the totals are 44 and it will go under even in a lopsided game.
prediction
san diego 14
miami 21

09-27-09 05:27 PM

we've got a game!

stoked with the DET ML cash

we'll see how this one plays out

spongerat · 09-27-09 05:57 PM

looks like a mini-routing

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