[ZBOIZ]

Saints ALL DAY!!

[Mikail]

is that from the heart or the mind!

[jjgold]

Trap

Saints look too easy

[Dad]

Saints +1 is the play all day, boys.

[ZBOIZ]

Thats from the mind Mikail. I wont bet the Saints from the heart ever. If anything I'll bet there team total or game total from heart. But no Mcnabb against a Drew Brees offense is just simply GREAT!!

[Mikail]

Looks like a winner!

[ZBOIZ]

Kolb will be the starter and the Saints will blitz the crap out that boy! Greg Williams will put so much pressure on that kid it will be unreal. I'm predicting 2 to 3 turnovers caused by pressure on Kolb.

[ZBOIZ]

I expect this line to be Saints -1 by Friday

[lakerboy]

Hey zboiz if your sure just tell me why the eagles are favored. Does it have anything to do with the fact they beat detroit at home and philly won in carolina or do you hav e another reason cause the smart bettor just wouldn't play thia game and look for better games

[CaneDawg]

where is the game at

must be in philly

[themajormt]

Did you see what Philly's defense did last week?!?!

[CaneDawg]

yep in philly

no action for me

[ZBOIZ]

Originally Posted by lakerboy

Hey zboiz if your sure just tell me why the eagles are favored. Does it have anything to do with the fact they beat detroit at home and philly won in carolina or do you hav e another reason cause the smart bettor just wouldn't play thia game and look for better games

There is no better games. If you look at the Saints weakness as a team last year it was there secondary and defensive coordinator. Well this what they did in the offseason. They brought in Darren Sharper, Jabari Greer, and Malcolm Jenkins for there secondary. Also they brought in Greg Williams one of the best D Coordinators in the game this offseason. This a new defense that people have yet to discover. All I'm saying is get on them now before the line makers adjust to this team. You already know what the offense gone give you. All they need is a top 15 defense, and I strongly believe they have that because they attacked there weakness BIG TIME in the offseason.

I think it's -1 because the linemakers think this the same team as last year. No defense but all offense. And thats worng. Detroit went 1 for 13 on 3rd downs, the defense gave up only 2 touchdowns, and they forced 3 turnovers. Yea I know it was Detroit but this defense is blitzing and attacking under Greg Williams. He actually have them similar to Philly defense. BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ!!

[ZBOIZ]

Originally Posted by themajormt

Did you see what Philly's defense did last week?!?!

That was against a sorry Panthers offense, who have a QB who cant pass.

Saints offense is WAY better than the Panthers offense.

[element1286]

Originally Posted by ZBOIZ

I think it's -1 because the linemakers think this the same team as last year. No defense but all offense. And thats worng. Detroit went 1 for 13 on 3rd downs, the defense gave up only 2 touchdowns, and they forced 3 turnovers. Yea I know it was Detroit but this defense is blitzing and attacking under Greg Williams. He actually have them similar to Philly defense. BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ!!

Haha, delusional. The Saints defense is just bad in general. They can't stop the pass, they can't stop the run, and they can't get any pressure on the quarterback.

[lakerboy]

Thanks zboiz now I know the bookmakers didn't follow what happened in the offseason meanwhile they were within a couple of points in the lions game. The saints might win this game but going into philly is usually not good for most teams and there are better games. Take the giants

[GiveMeaBJ]

Lions defense isn't even half as good as the Eagles defense. This is an easy bet on the Eagles with Kolb, Garcia, McNabb, Vick, or anyone else they decide to play at QB. I'm waiting for the Saints money to give me a better line and then I will dive in. Last year Brees on the road against teams not named the Detroit Lions: 9 TD's vs 12 INT's. 2-6 on the road for the Saints, 1 win vs Lions, so 1-6 vs NFL teams on the road last year. Have fun on the Saints. I will be watching Westbrook shit on this Saints defense.

[ZBOIZ]

Originally Posted by element1286

Haha, delusional. The Saints defense is just bad in general. They can't stop the pass, they can't stop the run, and they can't get any pressure on the quarterback.

Why are you looking at last year ??????????? Realize that teams do get better in the offseason. They have a whole new secondary!!

[ZBOIZ]

Originally Posted by lakerboy

Thanks zboiz now I know the bookmakers didn't follow what happened in the offseason meanwhile they were within a couple of points in the lions game. The saints might win this game but going into philly is usually not good for most teams and there are better games. Take the giants

Trust me the linemakers be off at the beggining of the season on some teams. Just like they were off on the Patriots in 2007.

[ZBOIZ]

Originally Posted by GiveMeaBJ

Lions defense isn't even half as good as the Eagles defense. This is an easy bet on the Eagles with Kolb, Garcia, McNabb, Vick, or anyone else they decide to play at QB. I'm waiting for the Saints money to give me a better line and then I will dive in. Last year Brees on the road against teams not named the Detroit Lions: 9 TD's vs 12 INT's. 2-6 on the road for the Saints, 1 win vs Lions, so 1-6 vs NFL teams on the road last year. Have fun on the Saints. I will be watching Westbrook shit on this Saints defense.

It does'nt matter what defense step in front of Brees he will carve them up!!!

You must dont follow the NFL ??

If anything the Eagles defense will give up more yards in my thought because they like to blitz, which means a lot of one on one coverage for Brees. Also that mean Shockey will be open a lot because the linebackers will be blitzing. It also means Bush will be open because the linebackers will be blitzing. Just to many weapons. BOTTOM LINE THE SAINTS HAS THE BEST OFFENSE IN THE GAME!!

[ZBOIZ]

Also I dont know how many times I have to say this...BUT THIS IS NOT THE SAME SAINTS DEFENSE AS LAST YEAR!!!! THEY HAVE A WHOLE NEW SECONDARY AND DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR..

[GiveMeaBJ]

Originally Posted by ZBOIZ

It does'nt matter what defense step in front of Brees he will carve them up!!!

You must dont follow the NFL ??

If anything the Eagles defense will give up more yards in my thought because they like to blitz, which means a lot of one on one coverage for Brees. Also that mean Shockey will be open a lot because the linebackers will be blitzing. It also means Bush will be open because the linebackers will be blitzing. Just to many weapons. BOTTOM LINE THE SAINTS HAS THE BEST OFFENSE IN THE GAME!!

You must don't read good. The Saints might has the best offense in the game but Brees and this offense suck on the road. Face it. Don't let the homer in you fool you. I suggest you not wager on this game or you will be come Sunday.

[JRS21386]

I am a huge Saints fan, but rational.. The Saints offense does NOT struggle on the road, where have you been? Drew Brees is basically automatic everywhere he goes. Having said that, I think the Saints rushing defense looked better the other day, but i was still disappointed in the pressure they brough and their secondary.. They have a ways to go to get where we WANT them to be... To sum this up.. I think the line is fair.. I think this game is close.. Hence the Eagles -1...

[GiveMeaBJ]

Originally Posted by JRS21386

I am a huge Saints fan, but rational.. The Saints offense does NOT struggle on the road, where have you been? Drew Brees is basically automatic everywhere he goes. Having said that, I think the Saints rushing defense looked better the other day, but i was still disappointed in the pressure they brough and their secondary.. They have a ways to go to get where we WANT them to be... To sum this up.. I think the line is fair.. I think this game is close.. Hence the Eagles -1...

Read the stats. Brees is not Brees on the road. 1-6, 9 TD's 12 INT's last year. Passer rating in the low 70's for all 7 road games except @ Lions where he threw 2 TD's.

[JRS21386]

I stand corrected... lol

[element1286]

Originally Posted by GiveMeaBJ

Read the stats. Brees is not Brees on the road. 1-6, 9 TD's 12 INT's last year. Passer rating in the low 70's for all 7 road games except @ Lions where he threw 2 TD's.

In 2007, Brees on the road.

66.5% completion, 17 td's, 8 int's, 6.45 yards per attempt, 91.1 rating, record 4-4.

2008 - bad on the road
2007 - good on the road

Conclusion, maybe the home/road splits for Brees don't mean anything.

[GiveMeaBJ]

Interesting, didn't look back further then last year. Guess we will se which Brees we get this year. However, I am thinking maybe it does mean something. Maybe he was bad on the road because of no running game? Before Duece fell off their running game wasn't bad if I am remembering correctly. Looking into it.

[raydog]

i agree, not positive of this line with mcnabb hurt, but remember boys, zboiz thinks the saints have the best offense in the nfl because they beat detroit in week 1. take these homer write ups with a grain of salt. gl

[ZBOIZ]

Raydog I dont know if you are mentally slow or not, but the Saints was the #1 offense last year in 2008, not in 07, but also was the #1 offense in 2006! I also strongly believe this offense is the best in 2009. I'm not the only one thinking like this but a hell of a lot of NFL coaches and experts are saying the same. Why act like this is something new what the Saints did Sunday. Last year they put over 21 points on every opponent they played.

This offense is sick and if you think other wise you really dont know the NFL really well.

[KingKing]

thanks for the info!! b o l.....

[raydog]

god z you are the biggest homer here. you pay way too much attention to the #1 rankings shit and not enough to who they play....im not denying that the saints offense is good. starting the 2006 season, the saints were supposed to have the toughest schedule in the nfl, that ended up being wrong and they played 7 teams in 2006 that finished above 500(easiest schedule in the league) and last year they had the 5th easiest schedule and they couldnt even make the fukking playoffs. no doubt brees can throw it, but you are blowing this team way too much. take those #1 offense stats and chuck them out the fukking window bud.

[DrStale]

Originally Posted by ZBOIZ

Raydog I dont know if you are mentally slow or not

"You must dont follow the NFL ??"
"BOTTOM LINE THE SAINTS HAS THE BEST OFFENSE"
"Just to many weapons"
"Trust me the linemakers be off at the beggining of the season"
"There is no better games."
"You already know what the offense gone give you"
"they attacked there weakness"
"He actually have them similar to Philly defense"

And Raydog is the one who's mentally slow. Zboiz suffers from Kanye West Syndrome, wherein he usually makes himself coherent enough to appear that he knows what he's talking about, but on closer inspection he is actually mentally retarded. Zboiz does not bet with his head (ever). If he did he would be making these threads about other teams as well, but it is all about how amazing the Saints are. He does the same thing with LSU. He cannot see fault in "his" teams. Betting on your favorite teams and huge favorites in the 1st quarter is not a betting strategy, it is a severe lack of one.

All the best Z.

[lakerboy]

Zboiz is to be feared

[james4512]

Originally Posted by element1286

In 2007, Brees on the road.

66.5% completion, 17 td's, 8 int's, 6.45 yards per attempt, 91.1 rating, record 4-4.

2008 - bad on the road
2007 - good on the road

Conclusion, maybe the home/road splits for Brees don't mean anything.

3 of the 4 losses last year were against his own division. The NFC south as a whole had the best home record

[ZBOIZ]

We will see Sunday! But the excuse Sunday will be Mcnabb was not playing.