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10-31-2005, 05:53 PM
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I never thought I would have to say this...
Betcris might deserve a downgrade.
Someone is not on top of things around SBR or Cris.
I pm'd mod my account number etc and this is my response from betcris.
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Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'CS - Tom'
CS - Tom: May I have your account number and password please?
you: Hey this is CR***** password is ************* and I was told my $100 free play was going to be added to my account and it has not yet
CS - Tom: checking
you: Ok
CS - Tom: hold on pls
CS - Tom: how much was it for?
you: $100.00
you: I won a contest at SBR and the last person I talked to verified it and said it would be in there soon and it has not made my account in 4 hours. I need to bet that 100
CS - Tom: I do not see the request anywhere in here
you: ?
you: lol
you: http://www.sbrforum.com/showthread.php?t=2246
you: get that 100 added to my account so I can play tonights game
you: cr***** needs $100 freeplay
CS - Tom: let me talk to the person you chatted with before
you: well make it snappy please
you: >?
CS - Tom: I spoke to the person in charge and he told me he never added the free play because you do not appear in the winner's list
you: this is POster AK
you: IM AK
you: $100 AK: 2-1 +2 (348 posts)
CS - Tom: If you are sure you won you will have to contact sportsreview
you: LOL
CS - Tom: and have them contact us on your behalf
you: I make new post on it
you: unbelievable
CS - Tom: what do you mean?
you: guess you just have to read post
CS - Tom: pls contact them
CS - Tom: yes
you: AK
you: just went public
CS - Tom: YOur poster name does not appear here either
CS - Tom: pls contact them and have them contact us at scottm@betcris.com
CS - Tom: we have 6 winners on the list and your name does not appear here
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10-31-2005, 05:56 PM
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AK, bill made a post earlier today about the email system having a glitch in it. so, that could be the reason.
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10-31-2005, 05:58 PM
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SBR Sharp
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*hands AK a lollipop* now calm down little boy.
SBR: CR******* needs the freeplay now! lol
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10-31-2005, 06:11 PM
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You're about 5 days early, AK.
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10-31-2005, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ganchrow
You're about 5 days early, AK.
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free plays are added once a week?
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10-31-2005, 06:17 PM
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SBR Sharp
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AK! You are SOLID!
Solid guys dont become nervous! Whats going on? 
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10-31-2005, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Quarm
AK! You are SOLID!
Solid guys dont become nervous! Whats going on? 
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Not very often you find a +600 mnf dog that has a chance to win
free plays are only valuable if you play the dog.
Looks like an easy 300 profit after scalp
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10-31-2005, 06:35 PM
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SBR Wise Guy
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Crying over a $100 Free Play is not solid at all.
Could you explain how a $100 FP, bet on +600 would yield $300 profit?
BAUS
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10-31-2005, 06:57 PM
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Sick
Do your math with your hedge calculator.
Are you saying playing the favorite on a freeplay is the most valuable way to play? 
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10-31-2005, 07:05 PM
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SBR Wise Guy
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I'm not suggesting the favorite at all.
I'm saying, how does a $100 freeplay equal $300 profit. It's not possible. Or if it is possible, then prove it to me.
BAUS (Not Sick Gambler)
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10-31-2005, 07:12 PM
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I posted this at another site.
"Depends on how you can use the matchplay. I posted this in another thread. If you can use your matchplay other than straight the expected value of the matchplay is approx. 85% of the matchplay.
If you deposited $1000 and took 10% cash it's worth $1100. If you take 20% match play it's worth $1170. Comparing cash to match play. 100/85 = 1.176. This means if you get a 10% cash bonus it equals 10 * 1.176 = 11.76 % match play.
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Most times it is better to take a 3 team parlay but you can make a case for the scalp/dog method becasue you win more often but less money each time. You have to play with the numbers and determine if you want to put some of your own money to dog scalp or just use the houses money to parlay.
Here's some math using true odds for parlays and ML scalp. Because you are not going to get 7-1 on 3 team parlays or a ML where you can find a +600/-600 you have to play with the numbers. Most likely you will get 6-1 and +350/-400.
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3 team parlay with a $100 free play. A 3 teamer will hit 1 out of 8 times. Using true odds
1 win = +$700
7 losses = $0
Win $700 in 8 tries or $87.50/free play
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-600/+600 dog scalp
In 7 tries you will win 6 times
Free play you put up $100 to win $600
Now you have to put up $600 of your own money to win $100.
Win 6 times $600 out of 7 plays or $85.71/free play.
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10-31-2005, 10:54 PM
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Winners have until Friday to submitt me their account number. Then the entire list is forwarded to CRIS. This has been the rule since day one AK. Once the list is forwarded on Friday it may take several business days to be credited to your account.
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10-31-2005, 11:54 PM
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AK needs to be careful. I'm not sure of the exact rules but I'm pretty sure there is something in there about CRIS having the ability to disqualify entries. I'm sure they wouldn't use that rule after already winning but I would think before getting too sassy if you want to play next week. Maybe you are kidding with this?
AK, Send your ID to Illusion.
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10-31-2005, 11:59 PM
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I'm not sure of the exact rules but I'm pretty sure there is something in there about CRIS having the ability to disqualify entries.
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That would be away for them to get back part of the $25,000 I won there last year.
Go ahead and donate my freeplay to www.redcross.org
Last edited by AK : 11-01-2005 at 12:05 AM.
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11-01-2005, 12:29 AM
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SBR Wise Guy
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I've never read such a rude Live Chat transcript before:
you: get that 100 added to my account so I can play tonights game
you: cr***** needs $100 freeplay
CS - Tom: let me talk to the person you chatted with before
you: well make it snappy please
Talk about an ingrate....
And BTW, what the hell would the Redcross do with a $100 Free Play?
Weird.
BAUS
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11-01-2005, 12:31 AM
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And BTW, what the hell would the Redcross do with a $100 Free Play
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LOl... I heard the Redcross guys were on Pitt huge.
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11-01-2005, 12:36 AM
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I gotta be honest. My overwhelming reaction when I read this thread is:
That guy doesn't seem very solid.
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