[Dexter]

many of you knew from day 1 what he was trying to do - i kinda had a feeling that he was going to go this route, but closed my eyes since he is a self capper and did educate many on the right things to look for. he's not a bad handicapper, but most certainly is not as good as we all originally thought.

lotta smoke and mirrors and the used car salesman talk has gotten comical now.

i'm making this post to let everyone here at the sbr family know that i am in no way affiliated with this clown, nor is anyone else who was in the "mafia" (lol)

sexymit is the other tout with him now charging people for plays.

stay away folks - there is no tout out there worth paying for, and there are enough free resources here at sbr to learn how to make some money on your own. its all about money mgmt anyway, not picking 65% which no one does (except the bs touts)

hes luring people over to his twitter account giving away those secret plays

this was when i first raised an eye brow at this guy - the record NEVER started at 0-0. one day, the record was like 13-1. lol.....anyone can look back for something that worked for a short span, and then call it a long term success. anyone with half a brain knew that he was trying to promote himself. there was a stretch where these plays continued doing well, and i was on board - but i most certainly knew this was not some year after year success as he had claimed. he was changing criteria on the fly, but i shut my mouth out of respect for him.

it came to my attention recently about his tout intentions - i still needed to see it to believe it. well, hes up and running on a site looking to charge EVERYONE.

all the "underground" talk was part of a big grand scheme on his part.

i just hope no one is dumb enough to send him money.

Thanks for the things you have taught me ck - but i will make damn sure no one sends you a dime. You're not a true sharp - you're a tout.

[paco]

Did u guys have a falling out?

[jellobiafra]

Wow.

What's up Dex? How's the Spa been treating you?

[Enogsiwon]

you would use his threads to post your plays and now you diss him... never knock a guy for trying to get paid...

[MarkHammond]

[Foghorn]

Whoa Hoooooooooo...................incredible ........

[goingpoor]

I agree, he def is a douche

[tacomax]

Where can I buy his picks?

[blittydeuce]

How many dimes did you send him dex?

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by paco

Did u guys have a falling out?

no - he's still telling me now that he'll text me his plays etc. i gave him a few chances over the last few days to tell me about his intentions for the guys here. he had none - any of the "mafia" guys who straight tail him (and thats not me) would now have to pay $25 per game.

not about that - its the disrespect he gave the regulars in his thread who stood up for him when the trolls would attack.

it was a big grand scheme from day 1 - he did tell me a while back that he would only be posting here for a year. should have put 2 and 2 together.

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by jellobiafra

Wow.

What's up Dex? How's the Spa been treating you?

ehh - not good. should have quit after that hot start! lol...nah, it was fun.

[G's pks]

doubt there will be to many takers...relax...

[Karayilan9]

This is getting ugly, you may disagree with him becoming a tout but you were writing picks on his pages for a while, there's no need to trash the guy.

[lakerboy]

He was good in nba playoffs.His baseball plays were hurting for sure. Fading him in baseball would have been very profitable.The only thing I don't get is why he kept posting baseball plays(losing mostly) if he wanted to get a client base.There are people on this site who will pay him but guys let's be honest picking winners in the NBA playoffs isn't rocket science.I wouldn't pay anyone a penny for picks I have enough knowledge to cap my own games. Anyways good luck to him but guys don't waste you're money.

[G's pks]

Originally Posted by lakerboy

He was good in nba playoffs.His baseball plays were hurting for sure. Fading him in baseball would have been very profitable.The only thing I don't get is why he kept posting baseball plays(losing mostly) if he wanted to get a client base.There are people on this site who will pay him but guys let's be honest picking winners in the NBA playoffs isn't rocket science.I wouldn't pay anyone a penny for picks I have enough knowledge to cap my own games. Anyways good luck to him but guys don't waste you're money.

very well said...

[payingthejuice]

I am pretty solid when it comes to picking plays. But I dont think I could ever go tout. I do way to much work handicapping the games, and then to add on the hassle of collecting money and sending out plays to people who bought them .... just not worth my time and effort, and would probobly hurt my handicapping.

But if he wants to go that route, more power to him.

[losturmarbles]

yeah dex stop calling the guy a tout, youre trashing his good name!

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by Karayilan9

This is getting ugly, you may disagree with him becoming a tout but you were writing picks on his pages for a while, there's no need to trash the guy.

lol - i could be wrong but i think i recall him stating about bringing someone on board for soccer picks. dont recall if it was you, but think it was.

so this kinda response from you is not surprising.

dont like touts and dont like the way he treated the guys. not so much that he became a tout but how he dealt with the regulars who supported him. end of story.

hes still texting me that he'll give me "the plays" for free - its not about that. i make my own plays - always have, always will.

[Dexter]

haha - just looked up the email i got from ck. karilyan is a tout as well. get outta here you clown:

"Assembling the talent pool and getting the domain issues taken care of. My boy KMarinouofm is handling the design of the page, and naturally I am funding the database costs, lol! There is still groundwork to do with trying to drum up referral money from various sites, such as the sportbooks and downloadable product merchants. I have Karayilan on board for the soccer, and Sexymit for NBA (Obviously if he was that good consistently throughout the past two years both here and at Covers he's good!) and NCAA. I am pressing the buttons on the NFL, NBA and NCAA sports too. Grumpy will be doing the MLB. He only bets MLB games once or twice a week and is pretty good at them. My wife will be pressing buttons on NBA only. I think that the bread and butter as always will be the NBA. Obviously I won't have any halves anymore, etc, but it will be just what I would play HEAVY only, so despite the lack of quantity (for the purposes of keeping a daily thread going) there will be more quality. The trip to Costa Rica for the thing in Cuba is on hold for right now, due to impending birth of our child, so I have to do something in the meantime. This is it!
A minority owned tout service. Who would have ever thought!"

[payingthejuice]

I own quite a few gambling related domain names (never used, just have for investment purposes)

I wonder if he wants to buy 1 of them lol

[G's pks]

Dex relax... honestly he was ok at basketball... baseball poor.... and if he wants to try to sell his picks that is his choice... I feel much more sorry for the people buying them!

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by lakerboy

He was good in nba playoffs.His baseball plays were hurting for sure. Fading him in baseball would have been very profitable.The only thing I don't get is why he kept posting baseball plays(losing mostly) if he wanted to get a client base.There are people on this site who will pay him but guys let's be honest picking winners in the NBA playoffs isn't rocket science.I wouldn't pay anyone a penny for picks I have enough knowledge to cap my own games. Anyways good luck to him but guys don't waste you're money.

if his marketing skills were sharper, he would have waited until a football or nba thread got hot the way it did last year with heavy views. Have a few PC plays that hit, then branch off.

i have a hard time believing that many are following right now.

though as you can see below, even he recognized that mlb is not his game.

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by lakerboy

He was good in nba playoffs.His baseball plays were hurting for sure. Fading him in baseball would have been very profitable.The only thing I don't get is why he kept posting baseball plays(losing mostly) if he wanted to get a client base.There are people on this site who will pay him but guys let's be honest picking winners in the NBA playoffs isn't rocket science.I wouldn't pay anyone a penny for picks I have enough knowledge to cap my own games. Anyways good luck to him but guys don't waste you're money.

dont worry about all that - me and you in T-4 days!

[Karayilan9]

Originally Posted by Dexter

haha - just looked up the email i got from ck. karilyan is a tout as well. get the fukk outta here you clown:

You been drinking hard or had a real bad night? No, I'm not a tout, I don't need to tout, prove your accusation or retract your statement. I hit around 63-68% an average a season in soccer, you can check my record, those that know me know this, I don't need an extra few dollars for a paid pick.

Assembling the talent pool and getting the domain issues taken care of. My boy KMarinouofm is handling the design of the page, and naturally I am funding the database costs, lol! There is still groundwork to do with trying to drum up referral money from various sites, such as the sportbooks and downloadable product merchants. I have Karayilan on board for the soccer, and Sexymit for NBA (Obviously if he was that good consistently throughout the past two years both here and at Covers he's good!) and NCAA. I am pressing the buttons on the NFL, NBA and NCAA sports too. Grumpy will be doing the MLB. He only bets MLB games once or twice a week and is pretty good at them. My wife will be pressing buttons on NBA only. I think that the bread and butter as always will be the NBA. Obviously I won't have any halves anymore, etc, but it will be just what I would play HEAVY only, so despite the lack of quantity (for the purposes of keeping a daily thread going) there will be more quality. The trip to Costa Rica for the thing in Cuba is on hold for right now, due to impending birth of our child, so I have to do something in the meantime. This is it!
A minority owned tout service. Who would have ever thought!

Nobody has contacted me about this, I never received this PM, I'm not in the US, I have no intentions of people paying me a few dollars for picks.

Listen, I give all my picks for free to people who wager a few dollars to those that wager tens of thousands, I've never asked money for my picks, however, people have made hundreds of thousands following them. I have many people who want me to tout for them! but I'm still posting my picks for free, if people win from my picks and wish to give a little back that is fine but I don't sell picks and have no need to.

Your attacking the wrong person.

Can the mods confirm this crazy guy is talking trash!

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by Karayilan9

You been drinking hard or had a real bad night? No, I'm not a tout, I don't need to tout, prove your accusation or retract your statement. I hit around 63-68% an average a season in soccer, you can check my record, those that know me know this, I don't need an extra few dollars for a paid pick.


Nobody has contacted me about this, I never received this PM, I'm not in the US, I have no intentions of people paying me a few dollars for picks.

Listen, I give all my picks for free to people who wager a few dollars to those that wager tens of thousands, I've never asked money for my picks, however, people have made hundreds of thousands following them. I have many people who want me to tout for them! but I'm still posting my picks for free, if people win from my picks and wish to give a little back that is fine but I don't sell picks and have no need to.

Your attacking the wrong person.

Can the mods confirm this crazy guy is talking trash!

then ck was lying - that was an email i had gotten from him.

i dont talk trash - im stating facts. this is what i got from ck, and im responding to you since YOU posted towards me.

i respect the fact that you do well and dont need to charge people for your plays. i guess we will see in time (when ck's website is up) whats really going to transpire.

[rake922]

thanks for the heads up

[kmarinouofm]

Originally Posted by Dexter

haha - just looked up the email i got from ck. karilyan is a tout as well. get outta here you clown:

"Assembling the talent pool and getting the domain issues taken care of. My boy KMarinouofm is handling the design of the page, and naturally I am funding the database costs, lol! There is still groundwork to do with trying to drum up referral money from various sites, such as the sportbooks and downloadable product merchants. I have Karayilan on board for the soccer, and Sexymit for NBA (Obviously if he was that good consistently throughout the past two years both here and at Covers he's good!) and NCAA. I am pressing the buttons on the NFL, NBA and NCAA sports too. Grumpy will be doing the MLB. He only bets MLB games once or twice a week and is pretty good at them. My wife will be pressing buttons on NBA only. I think that the bread and butter as always will be the NBA. Obviously I won't have any halves anymore, etc, but it will be just what I would play HEAVY only, so despite the lack of quantity (for the purposes of keeping a daily thread going) there will be more quality. The trip to Costa Rica for the thing in Cuba is on hold for right now, due to impending birth of our child, so I have to do something in the meantime. This is it!
A minority owned tout service. Who would have ever thought!"

dexter, Karayilan never got on board for anything.. i know this for a fact.. i talk to him everyday.. There were talks about getting him involved for sure.... but he was never contacted by CK as far as I know.. Nor were talks ever even started between him and anyone else... He is not selling his picks nor does he want to..

He is a an extremely genuine person and a good friend.. not to mention a great poster and a great addition to the SBR forum...

I hope my word is enough to put at least that portion of this story to bed..

[Karayilan9]

Dexter
i dont talk trash skippy - im stating facts. this is what i got from ck, and im responding to you since YOU posted towards me.

Your attacking me for no reason! that's trash talk, I'm no tout and have no connection to this touting service. I have no problem with CK or anyone who used to write on his thread including you Dexter and have respect for what their insight in NBA. If I was touting with him I'd say, its nothing to hide, if he wants to make more money like that good luck to him and I hope he is successful.

[kmarinouofm]

Originally Posted by Karayilan9

Your attacking me for no reason! that's trash talk, I'm no tout and have no connection to this touting service. I have no problem with CK or anyone who used to write on his thread including you Dexter and have respect for what their insight in NBA. If I was touting with him I'd say, its nothing to hide, if he wants to make more money like that good luck to him and I hope he is successful.

i agree as well.. well said homie..

[lakerboy]

Originally Posted by Dexter

dont worry about all that - me and you in T-4 days!

yeah my man im looking forward to that. one question since ck is off you're list who plays him in the playoffs

[TurkzZ]

Originally Posted by Dexter

haha - just looked up the email i got from ck. karilyan is a tout as well. get outta here you clown:

"Assembling the talent pool and getting the domain issues taken care of. My boy KMarinouofm is handling the design of the page, and naturally I am funding the database costs, lol! There is still groundwork to do with trying to drum up referral money from various sites, such as the sportbooks and downloadable product merchants. I have Karayilan on board for the soccer, and Sexymit for NBA (Obviously if he was that good consistently throughout the past two years both here and at Covers he's good!) and NCAA. I am pressing the buttons on the NFL, NBA and NCAA sports too. Grumpy will be doing the MLB. He only bets MLB games once or twice a week and is pretty good at them. My wife will be pressing buttons on NBA only. I think that the bread and butter as always will be the NBA. Obviously I won't have any halves anymore, etc, but it will be just what I would play HEAVY only, so despite the lack of quantity (for the purposes of keeping a daily thread going) there will be more quality. The trip to Costa Rica for the thing in Cuba is on hold for right now, due to impending birth of our child, so I have to do something in the meantime. This is it!
A minority owned tout service. Who would have ever thought!"

ooooo Internet Tough guy, i suggest you get you facts right before you go around accusing people, who the hell are you? how about you stop posting about others and post some picks instead, just because you have been cut out or had a bad day or taken a big loss doesnt mean you can come here accusing people of this and that.

i think you have lost the plot mate, its very clear your just bitter over somthing, and as for sombody that suggests that he is purely a "recreational player" , "only playing for fun" you seem to be taking this all a little too seriously

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by kmarinouofm

dexter, Karayilan never got on board for anything.. i know this for a fact.. i talk to him everyday.. There were talks about getting him involved for sure.... but he was never contacted by CK as far as I know.. Nor were talks ever even started between him and anyone else... He is not selling his picks nor does he want to..

He is a an extremely genuine person and a good friend.. not to mention a great poster and a great addition to the SBR forum...

I hope my word is enough to put at least that portion of this story to bed..

thats cool - but lets be clear. i had this email from ck mentioning karayilan, and i in no way came here looking to talk trash etc.

HE replied to my post defending cockncoker, and then i recalled that he was mentioned as being part of this tout service. thats the only reason why i mentioned it, or else i never would have said anything.

same goes for sexymit - he's getting it from me now cause he also chose to chime in defending ck.

our beef is with cocknocker, and how he handled this whole move.

he's gone, so lets all move on and forget this shit. NFL week 1 starts Thur.

[obamaismyuncle]

This shit comes down to Ck's picks, in my opinion his picks were horrible. Anyone else agree? I thought his picks stunk, and especially in MLB, they were horrible.

[Dexter]

Originally Posted by TurkzZ

ooooo Internet Tough guy, i suggest you get you facts right before you go around accusing people, who the hell are you? how about you stop posting about others and post some picks instead, just because you have been cut out or had a bad day or taken a big loss doesnt mean you can come here accusing people of this and that.

i think you have lost the plot mate, its very clear your just bitter over somthing, and as for sombody that suggests that he is purely a "recreational player" , "only playing for fun" you seem to be taking this all a little too seriously

lol - i post my picks each and every day genius. facts straight? that was an email from anthony (ck) himself - so i guess he was lying.

get off your knees and over to ck's twitter page.

WHo else have i accused of anything?

[TurkzZ]

Originally Posted by Dexter

thats cool - but lets be clear. i had this email from ck mentioning karayilan, and i in no way came here looking to talk trash etc.

HE replied to my post defending cockncoker, and then i recalled that he was mentioned as being part of this tout service. thats the only reason why i mentioned it, or else i never would have said anything.

same goes for sexymit - he's getting it from me now cause he also chose to chime in defending ck.

our beef is with cocknocker, and how he handled this whole move.

he's gone, so lets all move on and forget this shit. NFL week 1 starts Thur.

Your going on like CK's commited murder or somthing, so what if CK touts, whats the big deal, hes won us a load of money while he been here, im greatfull for that, i have no clue what you have added other then shouting out accusations becasue you'v been left out in some way,