[Sam Odom]

WSEX

Oly

Pinny

Grande

Maybe CRIS -- But there's something about Mickey Mouse I'm not 100% trusting. (that's just me)

[jjgold]

pinny
wsex
greek

No one else

[Yoshi]

why start another thread about this? Not trying to bitch, but...

[Sam Odom]

why start another thread about this? Not trying to bitch, but...

Sorry. I did not know there were any this specific.

[Dark Horse]

pinny
wsex
greek

No one else

Same here.

[scottyy11]

even though they don't offer much value as safety go

Ladbrokes and victorchandler

[jjgold]

I am not including UK and Aussie books on the list

Willy Hill
Chandler
Ladbrokes
BEt365
Betfair
Centrebt
Canbet
Stan James

[Scorpion]

Bet $3.65 Stinks

[chano]

If any of you guys trust anyone with 50k of your money, you should see the local psychiatrist for a 30 minute session. There is not a sportsbook that should be even considered, not now, not after all that has happened.

[koko]

If any of you guys trust anyone with 50k of your money, you should see the local psychiatrist for a 30 minute session. There is not a sportsbook that should be even considered, not now, not after all that has happened.

It is all relative to the size of your roll. If your betting in $100 units, then there's no need to have that much at any book. If you did, you should feel uncomfortable having in the book.

If you're roll is large enough that you're betting $10K or $20K at a time, then, $50K isn't that much to you. And, in that situation, you will NEED to keep at least $50K in an account just be able to get a few bets down. If the worst case happens (the book goes away with your cash), you're only out a couple of units. In other words, while $50K sounds like a lot to you, to other players it is just a drop in the bucket.

To put it in perspective, I'm sure there are quite a few account at Pinny with 7 figure (or higher) balances. The accounts are the ones that can/do bet as high as Pinny will allow and do so mulitple times.

Ever sit down at a blackjack table making $25 bets and someone sits on your left and starts making $5000 bets? If you did, I'm sure your first thought was that guy must be crazy to bet that much on one hand. Well, the guy sitting on you right and betting $5 a hand thought you were crazy for betting $25 a hand. See what I mean?

[Sam Odom]

chano, I know a couple of guys who posts up 100K before each FB season at a single book.

[Chuck Sims]

WSEX...Pinnacle...The Greek.

What happened to BetOnSports was expected. People were warned to get out. House of cards ready to collapse.

[LLXC]

Pinnacle

CRIS

[pags11]

pinnacle
matchbook
cris
betjamaica

[Sam Odom]

Re-cap for North American Market

Pinnacle
WSEX/Matchbook
Oly/BetJam
CRIS
Grande

[SBR_John]

Dont forget VIP and Bodog .

[vanzack]

Dont forget VIP and Bodog .

Yeah but why would anyone want to keep 50K at bodog? It would take you 10 years to bet that much at bodog with their limits.

[Yoshi]

lol i bet not even 1 poster besides John would trust VIP with 50k

[SBR_John]

Well VIP has a small group of loud opponets most have never played there just found a cause and jumped on the bandwagon. And thats great and fine.

I've known the owner for 7 years. He is so respected in Curacao and in the industry that Pinnacle at one time considered buying VIP just to get him to run Pinnacle.

I'll tell you something else; VIP has a huge square base. They dont post on forums but they are there bigtime. So sure, I'd trust VIP before I'd trust several other A+ books.

[Yoshi]

´bout time than that someone tells that great man to clean up his mess of a group.

[LLXC]

Adding Matchbook...because of how they operate.

[bookie]

Koko's point that the meaning of $50,000 is relative to how big of a bettor you are makes sense. But what hasn't been said is that it's not just a matter of trusting the book, Uncle Sam is also your enemy here.

If they wanted to pick out some trusted operator and freeze his bank accounts and create havoc in his business they could certainly do it, and I wouldn't put it past them to pick one of the places mentioned simply because they are well trusted.

[HAPPY BOY]

BkofAma, and I'd check my staement every month.

[szk1983]

I don't know if anyone has the same sentiments as me after the recent posts, but i'd still include 5dimes as a book i'd be more than comfortable to keep more than 50k in.

[Arilou]

I think the point that 50K means different things to different people is huge. If your bankroll is 100K then trusting even Pinnacle with 50K is folly - there is no need. But at some point those balances start to make sense. I would definitely trust Pinnacle, WSEX, Matchbook, Greek, Bodog and CRIS for a large percent of bankroll. Matchbook might not be in the A range, but as noted above knowing how they operate helps a lot. They are allied to WSEX and they don't bet their own money, so it's very hard to see the book getting into trouble.

[koko]

I think the point that 50K means different things to different people is huge. If your bankroll is 100K then trusting even Pinnacle with 50K is folly - there is no need. But at some point those balances start to make sense. I would definitely trust Pinnacle, WSEX, Matchbook, Greek, Bodog and CRIS for a large percent of bankroll. Matchbook might not be in the A range, but as noted above knowing how they operate helps a lot. They are allied to WSEX and they don't bet their own money, so it's very hard to see the book getting into trouble.

Unless the liquidity dries up there. If that were to happen, Matchbook could bet into a situation where operation expenses are greater than revenue.

Good thing that doesn't seem likely at the momment.

[SBR_John]

Unless the liquidity dries up there. If that were to happen, Matchbook could bet into a situation where operation expenses are greater than revenue.

Good thing that doesn't seem likely at the momment.

Thats a good post.

WSEX has a relationship with Matchbook but they are not the majority owners as far as I know.

When it comes to big deposits you really have to consider the people behind the operation more than ever. Some books like an ABC or a Heritage I would have no problem with a high balance even though the books themselve are not A+ books by our ranking system.

I know the owner of Mansion has a zillion times more money than Rodger of Hertiage, for example. But for me I know for a fact Rodger will pay me because he is an honorable guy and has been for decades.

[pags11]

to be honest with you, matchbook's been pissing me off of late...have had a lot of -108, -110, -112 lines lately on games...almost as though once they get enough action on games they steer it away...gonna research this a little more, but between that and the commission credit deal, I don't see anything wrong with going into next year with just a funded pinny and cris account (with all due respect to betjamaica)...will save me a lot of headaches

[taurus]

to be honest with you, matchbook's been pissing me off of late...have had a lot of -108, -110, -112 lines lately on games...almost as though once they get enough action on games they steer it away...gonna research this a little more, but between that and the commission credit deal, I don't see anything wrong with going into next year with just a funded pinny and cris account (with all due respect to betjamaica)...will save me a lot of headaches

pags - I would appreciate your keeping me posted on this.
I've been considering moving out of mansion and betjamaica ( only because they are back to 110 ) and I was considering giving matchbook a try. I have Pinnacle and betcris, where I need to meet a rollover requirement, and 5dimes for 1-AA football, tennis, and now and then another betting subject- horses for example. Those are the only 3 I feel married to at the moment.

[vanzack]

I love matchbook.

I have no complaints.

Consistently get 1 or 2 cent spreads on NFL. You cant touch that.

For me, a must out.

[Kaps]

pinny all day......i once had over 100k balance with them and withdrew close to 65k of it throughout the next couple months

[Sam Odom]

Re-cap for North American Market

Pinnacle
WSEX/Matchbook
Oly/BetJam
CRIS
Grande

WSEX Can you believe they used to be mentioned in the same breath?