[bigloser]

You’er right yoshi VIP has a few bandwagoners. .

Not quite sure what you mean by this.
If you mean that lots of people have negative experiences of VIP and will report them when a new story surfaces then I agree.
If you mean that your forum posters just complain about them for the hell of it, then the blindspot in respect of VIP is even greater than I thought.
This group is by far the worst on the A list, no amount of denials will change this.

[bigloser]

We are working on it Sammy. These things take a little time. Not everyone we need to talk to is in Curacao this week which means we also have a six hour time difference.

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What about last week and the week before ? Its 20 days now. How long do you need ?

[sammyb]

If 9 out of 10 people on this forum say that VIP should be downgraded why dont you listern to them

Downgrade VIP until they get their shit together

[Inside Track]

Like Irish said you guys are crazy if you think VIP will be downgraded. They are the highest paying player net loss % of all the books listed as A rated here 45%? - some are as low as .3% based on volume. They will never change this rating. VIP is a good book for small recreational players. You are right, they should inform you in a written format, but if you are beating numbers or playing dogs you are doing yourself a disservice by playing at a book that does not seek this sort of business. Just move on and good luck!

[Yoshi]

If a book doesnt seek this sort of business, they should have lower limits from the start. Iam sure they welcome big "recreational" guys who pay high juice without asking questions.

What sort of business is this? LOSERS only.
I dont see how such a book can be high rated, NO excuses.
This "good book for recreational players" argument sucks donkey ass, so books like the Greek who are good for Pro´s are not good enough for small players, and you should choose something like VIP instead? Silly...just ******* silly.

[BuddyBear]

Don't know about a C....a B+/A- seems about it right...

[Inside Track]

Yoshi - you are right, these type of books absolutely seek high limit bettors that pay the juice and more importantly back the favorites - this is the essence of their business. The difference is they also grant you larger bonuses in order to attract this clientele. To the uninitiated these bonuses appear an attractive offer and theoretically allows the player to bet larger or on more games as his balance dwindles from laying juice and favorites - an apparently mutually beneficial deal for the book and the player.

The model does not work when you allow players to take the bonus, play plus sides, or beat the number - at this point the math begins to work against the book and they are granting an edge that has to be reeled in to keep the lights on (limits).

So, in conclusion, please keep in mind the main principles at work here: SBR is a business, and VIP is the top paying affiliate on net loss (NO downgrade!). Second, VIP is a business and they treat their target clientele very, very well (A+) with the occasional exception as noted above, and third, if everyone was price sensitive there would only be the Pinnys and the exchanges - but players such as yourself are in the 1 percentile - not the majority.

[Chuck Sims]

Who cares about a bonus if you are expected to lose it betting inflated lines? Bet the other side or dare win and VIP will close your account. LOSERS ONLY AT VIP. An A+ sportsbook only losers can appreciate.

And lose the "recreational player" BS. Its code word for loser. Big players welcomed at VIP. Just don't win thats all VIP asks.

[pags11]

right you are chuck...got your back on this one...

[sammyb]

Still waiting SBR its been 3 weeks now any chance of a resolution sometime in 2007

[bigloser]

Any news ?

[bigloser]

Just looking at SBR quidelines on customer service responses. VIP are now well into F territory on this case.

[Yoshi]

And the so called best bonuses are a joke too, most A books give better like for example Cris/DSI, Canbet, Jamaica, Bodog.
The VIP review more and more looks like a parody haha.

[pags11]

yeah they jacked me around on a bonus a couple of years ago as well...

[freebie]

I guess my post and this thread going get swept under the rug.

Good luck with getting a response.

[sammyb]

Yep still waiting for a rwesolution it has been 6 weeks and still no one from sbr has given me a response yet