[bigboydan]

smart move IMHOO

Charlie Weis signs 10-year contract, to coach Notre Dame through 2015

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- First-year Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis signed a new 10-year contract Saturday that will keep him as the Irish coach through the 2015 season.

Weis, whose No. 9 Fighting Irish are off to a 5-2 start this season, signed a six-year contract that ran through 2010 when he was hired last December. The new 10-year agreement takes effect next season.

``In a very short period of time, Charlie has clearly and impressively demonstrated the ability to take the Notre Dame program where we all want it to go,'' Notre Dame athletics director Kevin White said.

[Illusion]

Charlie has been very solid, but 10 years for an unproven coach is too much.

[bigboydan]

he's proven if you think about it Illusion, he won 3 superbowls as an assistant coach.

[Illusion]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

he's proven if you think about it Illusion, he won 3 superbowls as an assistant coach.

Unproven in the college ranks dan.

Only time will tell I guess.

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by Illusion

Charlie has been very solid, but 10 years for an unproven coach is too much.

I think 10 years for any coach in any sport is too much.

[bigboydan]

i think he'll be just fine in the college ranks illusion, he's not one of those irogant type of guys,like most of them coaches are.

[SBR_John]

He desreves it.. That ND offense is awesome. If he can get a little better talent on defense they could be national champs in a couple of years which is incredible considering where they were when he took over.

Count me in as a big Coach Weis fan!

[BuddyBear]

are u guys crazy???

Isn't ND still writing checks out to Bob Davie...didn't they learn from that mistake.

[onlooker]

Good for him, lets see if he can keep it up there.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

are u guys crazy???

Isn't ND still writing checks out to Bob Davie...didn't they learn from that mistake.

BB, there were a couple of NFL teams looking at his contract for a possable buyout. so, they must have felt that chuck was the right man for the job for the next 10 years.

[OldeTymePlaya]

People don't learn from the mistakes of the past

[BuddyBear]

Not to seem cynical but this reaks of latent racism.

Tyrone Willingham starts out 8-0...a lot of marquees wins his first year. Played very competitively and doesn't get anything.

Weiss starts out 5-2....loss at home to a mediocre MSU team and then a very good game against USC but wins against overrated Pitt, Purdue, and Michigan.

Give me a break. They should have learned from Bob Davie....I'd love to see Weiss screw up now.

ND is nothing special....the glory days are just that.

[Money Line Maker]

weiss knows what hes doing. He will take notre dame to the next level. These are the types of trends we ntoice at vegas. He started out this year with 2 losses so far, now his recriutiment will be much better. he was already one of the elite recruiters last year. imagine next year. notre dame will make a good run for national champs. mark the money line makers words

p.s
buddy bear, sorry i didnt answer your email, ill get back to you with help for your picks as soon as possible

[Senator7]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

Not to seem cynical but this reaks of latent racism.

Tyrone Willingham starts out 8-0...a lot of marquees wins his first year. Played very competitively and doesn't get anything.

Weiss starts out 5-2....loss at home to a mediocre MSU team and then a very good game against USC but wins against overrated Pitt, Purdue, and Michigan.

Give me a break. They should have learned from Bob Davie....I'd love to see Weiss screw up now.

ND is nothing special....the glory days are just that.

BB, this is one of the worst posts I've seen you make. I think you've been spending a little too much time on campus. You need to come visit me up north for a while.

People think that Parcells and Belichick are such coaching legends. I think Weiss had more to do with that than people think. There isn't a better offensive football mind on the planet than Charlie Weiss and he had a number of NFL teams looking at him. The Irish made a brilliant move here. Weiss gives them incredible recruitment credibility. If you were a star prep athlete, could you imagine Weiss coming into your living room with his FOUR Super Bowl rings telling you stories of Brady & Co.? He brings respect and credibility back to South Bend. Not to mention that The Irish are already one of the top 10 teams in the country this season. Weiss will get at least 1 national championship in that decade contract, if not more.

To say this is racism and to compare Weiss to Willingham is a joke. Weiss has FOUR Super Bowl rings (1 in NY and 3 in NE) and just gave the nation's best team (USC) everything they could handle in just his first year. There are many NFL teams that are kicking themselves in the ass for not getting him before Notre Dame. Why does everything have to be about race in this country? Ray Rhodes gets fired, its racism. New NBA dress code, its racism. New Orleans is flooded, its racism. Contrary to what Reverend Jackson will tell you, not everything in this world is black and white. As a matter of fact, most of it is a gray area. Are there great black coaches? Absolutely! Marvin Lewis immediately comes to mind. Are there great white coaches? Absolutely! Parcells, Belichick, Shannahan. Are there moron black coaches? Yep. Willingham and sometimes Herman Edwards. Are there moron white coaches? Yep, too many to name but two Mikes come to mind, Martz and Tice. Not everything has to be about race, politics, sexual orientation, or creed. Sometimes things just are what they are.

Senator 7

[pags11]

he's going to continue to do a great job there...what a great fit for both parties...

[BuddyBear]

First of all I said this is latent racism. I didn't say it is racism. There is a big difference. All I am saying is that this is a major overreaction on ND's part. They signed Bob Davie to a long term deal and that busted in their face and Bob Davie is still laughing to the bank.

What Weiss did in the Pro ranks doesn't really apply much here. This is college. We could say the same thing of Spurrier in the NFL. Success doesn't always correlate on both levels. In fact it is very rare.

Now the facts are the facts. ND has beat very overrated teams in PITT, Purdue, Michigan, BYU, and soon an overrated Tenn team. There is nothing special about those teams.

All I am saying is that ND made this mistake before and now they are doing it again but it is very suprising that you think that somehow Willingham is not as good...he started out 8-0....ND fans had the same reaction but Willingham didn't get the same del. Willingham took Standford to the Rose Bowl and had success there....he got a raw deal at ND as far as I am concerned.

Take my word...Weiss is nothing special and just b/c things have looked good to start it doesn't merit a 10 yr extension. ND should have waited.

[pags11]

yeah, I guess I thought Willingham was good too his first year...he just seems to have a prescense about him, moreso than Davie or Willingham...but I see your point buddybear...

[Senator7]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

First of all I said this is latent racism. I didn't say it is racism. There is a big difference. All I am saying is that this is a major overreaction on ND's part. They signed Bob Davie to a long term deal and that busted in their face and Bob Davie is still laughing to the bank.

What Weiss did in the Pro ranks doesn't really apply much here. This is college. We could say the same thing of Spurrier in the NFL. Success doesn't always correlate on both levels. In fact it is very rare.

Now the facts are the facts. ND has beat very overrated teams in PITT, Purdue, Michigan, BYU, and soon an overrated Tenn team. There is nothing special about those teams.

All I am saying is that ND made this mistake before and now they are doing it again but it is very suprising that you think that somehow Willingham is not as good...he started out 8-0....ND fans had the same reaction but Willingham didn't get the same del. Willingham took Standford to the Rose Bowl and had success there....he got a raw deal at ND as far as I am concerned.

Take my word...Weiss is nothing special and just b/c things have looked good to start it doesn't merit a 10 yr extension. ND should have waited.

A much better argument. I didn't mean to attack you BB because you're one of the guys here I really like and really respect, I just can't stand it when someone brings the word racism to a debate because it opens a major can of worms and usually causes more harm than good. I think Weiss will succeed and give The Irish a great return on a decade investment, but we'll have to just wait and see!

Senator 7

[Money Line Maker]

senator, dont listen to BB, he is a fool. Of course Weissis the answer. At Vegas we were jumping up and down when we heard the news. BB has no clue whats going on.

[aje]

Originally Posted by Senator7

Contrary to what Reverend Jackson will tell you, not everything in this world is black and white. As a matter of fact, most of it is a gray area.
Senator 7

As for college football coaches, it's pretty much all white. I believe their is only 3 D I-A black coaches. With 117 programs working toward 119.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by Senator7

A much better argument. I didn't mean to attack you BB because you're one of the guys here I really like and really respect, I just can't stand it when someone brings the word racism to a debate because it opens a major can of worms and usually causes more harm than good. I think Weiss will succeed and give The Irish a great return on a decade investment, but we'll have to just wait and see!

Senator 7

Thanks Senator...I really enjoy what you have to say on the forum too.

I was thinking a lot about this last night and let me say you do make valid points.

But it's just suprising...10 years a long time especially for a team like the Irish who got burned by Davie so they must really like him.

All I am saying is that the same reasons that excite the ND athletic administration about Weiss should have been there for Willingham too. In fact, they should have been even more pronounced considering he started out 8-0 and had very impressive wins and weiss is only 5-2 with what I consider 1 marquee win against Michigan. Both had very similar hirings with both not being the first candidates ND wanted with Weiss not even part of the picture. So basically to me...it says what has Weiss done so differently that Willingham didn't do in his first 8 games that triggered this 10 yr extension. I mean hell, President Bush gave Willingham a bode of confidence when he came to Notre Dame.

Personally I think the USC game, even though he lost, really stood out for a lot of people.

As for the fact that Weiss has 4 SB rings...true...but I'll remind everyone that former MSU coach George Perles had 4 SB rings as defenseive coordinator with the Steelers and his tenure was up and down and he finished slightly above average.

I can see why ND wanted to lock him up...it's good for recruiting but it's just suprising is all I am saying and it may come back and bite them in the ass if it doesn't work out.

[pags11]

excellent thoughts here...so does Notre Dame cover this week vs. Tennessee...

[Swinging Johnson]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

smart move IMHOO

Ah......posts of the distant past come back to haunt us!

[Swinging Johnson]

smart move IMHOO


Quote:
Charlie Weis signs 10-year contract, to coach Notre Dame through 2015

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- First-year Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis signed a new 10-year contract Saturday that will keep him as the Irish coach through the 2015 season.

Weis, whose No. 9 Fighting Irish are off to a 5-2 start this season, signed a six-year contract that ran through 2010 when he was hired last December. The new 10-year agreement takes effect next season.

``In a very short period of time, Charlie has clearly and impressively demonstrated the ability to take the Notre Dame program where we all want it to go,'' Notre Dame athletics director Kevin White said.





Ah......posts of the distant past come back to haunt us!

[Housemoney]

Wasn't it a smart move by him? The buyout is estimated @ $18 million. Weis can take his time finding a new job.

Not very smart of ND IMHOO.

[Chi_archie]

18 million *gulp*

weiss will be 600 lbs in a year as he spends that $ on food and has no reason to get off his couch

football practices and games prob was 35% of his calories burned a week

[podunk]

Originally Posted by Chi_archie

18 million *gulp*

weiss will be 600 lbs in a year as he spends that $ on food and has no reason to get off his couch

football practices and games prob was 35% of his calories burned a week

[Scorpion]

Did ND ever think the reason this guy was successful ast NE is because the Patriots CHEATED??

Bellichick cannot beat the good teams anymore, hecannot cheat like before, he looks confused and makes stupid decisions

All his 3-4 assistant coaches who were later hired as head coaches got fired

People in charge at ND should be fired, they are incompetent

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by tacomax

I think 10 years for any coach in any sport is too much.

Originally Posted by tacomax

he's going to continue to do a great job there...what a great fit for both parties...

Damn, pags got me good that time.

[aggieshawn]

good deal

[Swinging Johnson]

Originally Posted by Housemoney

Wasn't it a smart move by him? The buyout is estimated @ $18 million. Weis can take his time finding a new job.

Not very smart of ND IMHOO.

Of course a smart move by Weiss...I believe the poster waaaay back in 2005 stated that it was a smart move for Notre Dame!!