[Sam Odom]

I want to help you $end your kids to college or pay your hospital bills. Those would be my ONLY goals if you signed-up wiff me! We are negotiating a price for sammysays.com as I type this post. SBR has been so kind to allow me my private forum until I get up and going online wiff my own site. Thanks John & guys!

I will ask for donations for my picks. Maybe $9.99 per week. How does that sound?



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[jjgold]

Sammy no one would work if guys could pick winners, 95% of people lose betting sports.

Bet sports for recreation only because if not you will wreck your life.

[Sam Odom]

So, you want my picks for 9.99/wk ?

[JoshW]

Sam, little early to be drinking, no?

[Sam Odom]

"early" is relative !

[Bill Dozer]

DRUNKTOUT.COM is available!
https://www.godaddy.com

look out Phil Steele

[pags11]

sam, don't go tout...

[goldengoat]

what is your record?

why would anyone here pay you for your picks

april 1st has been over for a long time

[Sam Odom]

what is your record?

why would anyone here pay you for your picks

april 1st has been over for a long time

You think 9.99/wk is too much ?

[goldengoat]

i am not real concerned with that price which seems low

i can't see myself paying anyone for picks

i will look at a touts picks and analysis but only as a resource towards making my own pick

or i will look at a tout's picks and videos for entertainment purposes if they have proven themselves to be a clown to see how low they can go

a tout is ok in my book if they can turn a profit for it's customers over a long run with no smoke and mirrors

however most use smoke and mirrors on their bankroll totals and gradings or fail miserably. those touts deserve all the criticism and shame they get

[EBone]

Ya know........


I've always thought that a good way to run a tout service was to say, "if I don't win, you don't pay"

I wonder why no one has caught on to that one yet. This would accomplish two things:

1) I think the general gambling public doesn't believe that touts are good, honest people. If you believe gambling is shady, the tout arena, in my opinion, is real shady. I think a marketing scheme such as this may enable you to be put "above the riff-raff".

2) If a tout is as good as he says he is, then lets see the proof in the pudding. If the tout gives you winners, then, damn skippy, the tout should be paid. If he gives you losers, then the tout should not be paid. Kind of a customer satisfaction thing.

Now certainly there are flaws to this idea. One being that you could still give half of the country one side and the other half of the country the other side. So then, no matter what, you would get paid. That is a problem and there are others but why not get paid for producing quality? Is there anything wrong with that?



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[freebie]

have we seen you records before, do you even pick games?

I just had a good lunch this afternoon for $9.99
maybe I'll starve myself tomorrow and donate the money to you.

[Sam Odom]

I'll starve myself tomorrow and donate the money to you.

[gargar]

I'll take it hahaha

[Aces]

Now certainly there are flaws to this idea. One being that you could still give half of the country one side and the other half of the country the other side.

Common Practice with Touts

The main question should always be (is the service documented?)

Most will claim to be but few are. Would you purchase picks from a service claiming 65-70 % winners ? Most documented extremely good services fall into this range. Anyone claiming 85-90% winners is full of it. I wont pay for picks because I can hit 65%-70% without the help.

[Aces]

Example Stardust Invitational 2004 Now these are the best of the best and the records dont excite me.

First Round Results--

Steve Fezzik (4-3 BB-W) defeated * David Stratton (4-3 BB-L)
Jimmy Vaccaro (6-1 BB-W) defeated Vinnie Magliulo (4-3 BB-W)
Cesar Robaina (4-2-1 BB-W) defeated Pete White (3-4 BB-W)
Mike Orkin (5-1-1 BB-W) defeated Kevin O'Neill (4-3 BB-W)
Brent Carter (3-4 BB-W) defeated * Dave Malinsky (3-4 BB-L)
Trace Field (6-1 BB-W) defeated Rob Veno (5-2 BB-L)
Papa Joe Chevalier (4-3 BB-W) defeated * Mark Franco (4-3 BB-L)
Al McMordie (4-3 BB-W) defeated * Ted Sevransky (4-3 BB-L)


Quarter Finals Round --

Brent Carter (6-1 BB-W) defeated Trace Fields (5-2 BB-W)
Cesar Robaina (3-4 BB-L) tied Jimmy Vaccaro (3-4 BB-L)
Cesar Robaina (4-2-1 BB-L) tied Jimmy Vaccaro (4-2-1 BB-L) in first Playoff Match
Jimmy Vaccaro (3-4 BB-L) defeated Cesar Robaina (2-5 BB-L) in second Playoff Match
Mike Orkin (2-4-1 BB-W) defeated Papa Joe Chevalier (2-5 BB-W)
Al McMordie (2-5 BB-L) defeated ** Steve Fezzil (2-5 BB-L)


Semi Finals Round

Brent Carter (4-1-2 BB-L) defeated Jimmy Vaccaro (2-4-1 BB-L)
Al McMordie (6-1 BB-W) defeated Mike Orkin (4-3 BB-W)


The FINALS
Al McMordie (5-2 BB-W) defeated Brent Carter (2-4-1 BB-L)

[RiverMan]

Sam , any free picks to try out?