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Old 08-06-09, 07:26 AM   #1
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I read over the NFL rule changes for this upcoming season.

Interesting.

First rule. Onside kick. The new rule prohibits teams from "bunching" players to one side of the field/middle of the field and then kicking to that side.

I have no idea how a team will recover an onside kick now. I always enjoyed watching 9 guys assault a single player trying to recover an onsides kick. Those days are over.

Second rule. The team returning a kick can no longer use a wedge of players of more than 2 players. Most teams had been using wedges of 4 players to kick start their return. This will make returning kicks tougher.

On the surface these rule changes may not seem significant. But if you are a totals player---rule #2 means teams will have a longer field to cover to score, and rule #1 will make it tougher for a team to recover an onsides kick and get that late score.
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Old 08-06-09, 08:23 AM   #2
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Very interesting stuff and nice take, Martin.

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Old 08-06-09, 08:40 AM   #3
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After five safety-oriented rule changes were made on Tuesday, the NFL followed with six more rules changes on Wednesday that seem to address common sense. Let's take a look at all 11, starting with the common sense rules put on the books yesterday.
• Loose balls that could have been the result of a fumble or an incomplete pass are now subject to video review. Or, as it will forever be known, "The Hochuli Rule." In case it's slipped your mind, here's the play that caused it all. Hochuli blew the initial call, and couldn't go to the replay to get it right. Ed felt bad about it and his dog was moved to letter-writing, but now, with everything said and done, it turned out to be a no harm, no foul situation. The universe righted itself in Week 17, the better team won the division, the rule has been changed and the case is now officially closed.
• Video replay can be used to determine if a loose ball stayed in bounds or hit the sideline. This one stems from some weirdness in the NFC championship game when a kickoff was ruled to have gone out of bounds when it never had. I guess it's comforting to have the replay in place now, so we can correct any such errors, but you know what I'd have done to begin with? I'd have instructed officials that they shouldn't rule that a ball went out of bounds unless they actually saw a ball go out of bounds. Seems like we could've saved everyone some trouble here.
• No more rekicks after an illegal onsides kick (someone on the kicking team touches the ball before it travels the necessary 10 yards, etc.). It immediately becomes the other team's ball. File this one under the common sense category. If you mess up an onside kick, you shouldn't be rewarded with a second chance to gain possession. If you mess it up, it's over, and the other team gets the ball. As it should.
• The draft order has been reworked to reflect playoff results, not regular-season results. The most commonly-cited instance here is that the Chargers beat the Colts in the '08 playoffs, and thus, advanced farther than they did, but the Chargers, after having gone 8-8 in the regular season, still pick way ahead of the Colts, who went 12-4 in the regular season. I'm a little torn on this one, as I'm not sure that the regular season record isn't the best way to determine a team's actual quality, but it's not a big deal. I can go either way on this one.
And file these last two under "things you probably never would have noticed if they weren't specifically pointed out to you."
• There's a new waiver period during the first two weeks of training camp, and the postseason waiver period will begin after the NFL's final game, whether it's the Pro Bowl or the Super Bowl.
• If a fumble or lateral goes out of bounds, the clock will stop only until the referee signals ready for play.
And now, let's take a second to go back to the five safety rule changes (or four rule changes, and one "clarification," as the league would tell you) passed yesterday, which have been slightly controversial. A lot of people feel like the NFL is taking too much contact out of the game, and not letting players play. I don't agree, I like the rule changes, and I say we go through them one-by-one.
• Forming a "wedge" on a kickoff return is no longer legal. If three or more players line up shoulder-to-shoulder within two yards of each other, it will be a penalty. Traditionally, kickoff return teams line up about four guys in a wedge in front of a kick returner, and tell them to stay lined up, run as fast as they can, and clear a path for the ball carrier. Meanwhile, the kicking team will send players down the field, running as fast as they can, with instructions only to hit the players in the wedge as hard as they can. If that sounds extremely violent to you, it's because it is. The owners determined it was causing too many injuries. I know that big hits happen on a football field, and that's fine, but we should probably avoid situations where we purposely set up people to hit each other with as much force and contact as two massive human beings possibly can muster.
• On onside kicks, the kicking team can't have more than five players bunched together. After reviewing tape, owners also concluded that too many guys were getting hurt on onside kicks. And it makes sense. You've got one group of guys that will be just standing there, waiting for the football, and a group of other guys running directly at them, just trying to take them out, one-by-one. That danger's still there, but it's been lessened.
• A blindside block cannot be delivered with a helmet, shoulder or forearm to an opponent's head or neck. That'll be a 15-yard penalty. I don't get the controversy at all about this one. You can still crack back on somebody, just don't lead with your head, and don't aim at another guy's head. I love the rule. Heads and necks are important. Let's keep them intact.
• Contact to the head of a defenseless receiver will also draw a 15-yard penalty. I kind of thought that was already a rule. But if it wasn't, it should be, and I'm good with it.
• A defensive player on the ground may no longer lunge or dive at the quarterback's lower legs. And last but not least, "The Brady Rule," 100 percent influenced by Bernard Pollard's (formerly) perfectly legal hit that sidelined Tom Brady for a full year. If I have a problem with any of the new rules, it's this one, but still, I see where the NFL is coming from. If you're going to sack a quarterback now, you've just got to do it while you're standing. Quarterbacks are the most vital ingredient to good football, so if it keeps more good quarterbacks healthy, I consider it a good thing.
What it comes down to it for me, with all of these safety-based rule changes, is that I'm sick of seeing guys carted off on stretchers. If it lessens the number of times that I see ambulances and neck stabilizers on football fields, even by the tiniest little margin, then I'm going to support it. That's the worst thing about football. The closer we can get that number to zero, the better off everyone's going to be.
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Old 08-06-09, 09:22 AM   #4
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I thought I heard that QB's were going to wear skirts and had to either pick the nickname of "Sally" or "Nancy"
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Old 08-06-09, 09:58 AM   #5
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good info
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Old 08-06-09, 11:02 AM   #6
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Haha, you're crazy tweet, but I agree I don't like last rule. If a defender is on the ground with a 300 pounder on his back, what's he supposed to do? Just because Brady has to take much longer strides than most qb's to throw and isn't athletic or agile enough to move, does it justify this rule? No problem with the other changes.

Do you guys think they'll enforce the "wedge" rule for kickoff returns properly?
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Old 08-06-09, 11:07 AM   #7
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Good read.

Kickoffs... You might have more touchbacks. A typical kickoff return goes to the 27, vs 20. If this pushes back the average return 2-3 yards, more teams won't bother to return 1-2 yards deep in the endzone.
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Old 08-06-09, 11:09 AM   #8
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Old 08-06-09, 03:41 PM   #9
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I agree with Barking toad's point...Also, do you think this rule would have gone into effect if a 'no name' QB was hurt, or just because golden boy Tom Brady was hurt?
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Old 08-06-09, 03:54 PM   #10
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• A blindside block cannot be delivered with a helmet, shoulder or forearm to an opponent's head or neck. That'll be a 15-yard penalty.

• A defensive player on the ground may no longer lunge or dive at the quarterback's lower legs, "The Brady Rule."

Not a fan of these two, overreactions to singular events.
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Old 08-06-09, 03:57 PM   #11
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I agree with the Brady Rule
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Old 08-06-09, 04:10 PM   #12
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why do you agree with the brady rule? you're the first i heard agree, and i would like the reasoning why you agree with it.

seems like to me there will be a lot of "close calls" on this one where a defender is going for the tackle but deemed to be already on the ground/falling. what constitutes "on the ground"? one hand or knee? isn't the defender always "on the ground" by having his foot touching?

this is one of those ridiculous rules that will slow down the game even more to review whether the defender was actually allowed to do his job and tackle someone. also how many guys will be ejected, fined, suspended, etc just for playing football and trying to tackle the guy with the ball?
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why do you agree with the brady rule? you're the first i heard agree, and i would like the reasoning why you agree with it.

seems like to me there will be a lot of "close calls" on this one where a defender is going for the tackle but deemed to be already on the ground/falling. what constitutes "on the ground"? one hand or knee? isn't the defender always "on the ground" by having his foot touching?

this is one of those ridiculous rules that will slow down the game even more to review whether the defender was actually allowed to do his job and tackle someone. also how many guys will be ejected, fined, suspended, etc just for playing football and trying to tackle the guy with the ball?
I think everyone recognizes that it's just the NFL trying to further protect the QB. QB's are what make the game marketable. I expect that to continue.
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so would unders be good plays for the first couple weeks of the season?
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Way too many 15 yard penalties in the NFL. The maximum penalty should be 10 yards, except for the worst of the worst (and true, undeniable pass interference). A 15 yard penalty against the offense is practically a turnover. And a 15 yarder against the defense is almost a field goal. I'm exaggerating to make the point. One problem is that there are always zebras who take the rules way too literal; the kind that decides games. Another problem is that defenders will start holding back. Really, if players don't want to get hurt, they shouldn't be playing football. This is a collision sport. Please keep it that way. The rules to make the game soft are getting more ridiculous every year.

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so would unders be good plays for the first couple weeks of the season?
With defenders holding back? Nah.
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Old 08-06-09, 04:59 PM   #17
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this league is ridiculous. People are quick to forget what happened to palmer during the squeelers SB run in 05. You shouldn't be able to go low on a QB period.
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All defensive players have to count to 5 Alligator before rushing the Quarterback of the opposing team. This can be done in Unison or by the defensive captain. If done by the defensive capatain he must stand near an unofficial and be completely heard. Once every 4 down series a team can chose to suprise the offense and rush the QB on a 5 apple count instead of 5 alligator. They can do this without telling the offense ahead of time but must let an official know of their plans. Once a game an all out no blitz can be done without any count. When this is done the QB can only be deflagged and not tackled but will still count as a sack in the official stats.
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so would unders be good plays for the first couple weeks of the season?
i agree, every crew will be looking to inforce the rule changes the first few weeks.
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These new rules will make the games even longer (4+ hours). Pretty soon the coin toss would be subjected to a video replay as well as knee downs at the end of the game.
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NFL should just play rough touch football now

I think scoring is going to be lower even without rules changes
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Old 08-08-09, 10:10 AM   #22
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These rule changes will tend to reduce the score variation.
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Old 08-09-09, 03:49 AM   #23
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how bout the no looking mean at the quarterback rule, man last I checked this was a contact sport
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USERNAME474 ARE YOU NUTS THESE GUYS GET MILLIONS.... cart them off ffs. they sound risk there life for our entertainment !!! That rule for Brady sucks and its gonna last 1 year !! wait till games get decided by that bullshit. that rule is so freakin bad it pisses me offf. pretection my ass. when these guys get paid like normal people at work the saftey should be your concern but these guys make millions a year and they should be at risk. my tickets parkin beer etc never goes down... why the fuk should my entertainment !!! no one gets killed and injurys happen no matter what rules yah have. take away from a game ending sack cuz the d had to crawl to grab a leg is fukin bullshit !! phew im ok now... lol untill i lose a bet on that shit call !!!
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