[Halifax]

Who are these guys, and why such a high grade ?

[VsDaSpread]

There ae in the Hollywood International Family.

Solid Out!:105084828

[jjgold]

You cannot even keep up anymore with all these books and who is with who

[AK]

I think there a sister site of hollywood

Could be wrong

[Mudcat]

Who are these guys, and why such a high grade ?

I've got no idea. I just went to have a look at the site but it wasn't working very well.

Assuming it's just a temporary problem, I'll give them a try with a small deposit in the next few days and see what they're all about.

[SBR_John]

This is a Hollywood owned and operated book. Thats concering if the site is not working properly. It would be great to get some more feedback.

[Bill Dozer]

I just went to have a look at the site but it wasn't working very well.

Its taking a very long time to load for me... Not the way they want to start off I'm sure.

You cannot even keep up anymore with all these books and who is with who

Here ya go JJ. Sorted by Mgt. The list is getting long but soon you will be able to click on the book and get their company information.

[Clip Joint]

Here ya go JJ. Sorted by Mgt. The list is getting long but soon you will be able to click on the book and get their company information.

You guys really throw me for a loop with that list. That makes very little sense.

You have books with the EXACT same software, customer service, payouts department...EVERYTHING, with different ratings.

Some of those books have only 1 difference in their entire business...the domain name. Yet they have 2 different letter grades.

[bboots]

I tried to log on and it took way too long....finally got there and looked up their bonuses....took forever....aaauuuggghhh

[Bill Dozer]

You guys really throw me for a loop with that list. That makes very little sense.

CJ,

Which part isn't making sense to you? Lets put this forum to good use =)

[raiders72001]

Looking at family groups here mare some big differences:

Bet Corp A+ to C+
CRIS A+ to C
Holly A+ to C+
Lad A+ to C+

[SBR_John]

Books who start a new book are usually given the same grade minus two pegs. So if the parent is A+ the child may start at A-. From there it will float.

VIP is a good example. They have a book gameday that is rated A and Betongames that is rated A-. They put more effort into Gameday.

Even this new Holly book according to Mudcat the site may have some bugs. With WWTS which is A+ we always kept their WagerOnSports at A- because it did not get the same support as the flagship.

[Clip Joint]

CJ,

Which part isn't making sense to you? Lets put this forum to good use =)

The part where the only difference between 2 books is the skin and they have different grades.

[SBR_John]

Thats not unusal because most times a player will get a different expierence playing at the child than the flagship. For example we get different player reviews from WWTS and their "skin" wageronsports. The employees know the rules and are better trained on WWTS's procedures and bonuses than they are on WagerOnSports, player feed back is stronger at the flagship hence a slightly different grade.

[why]

good , more competition, keeps everyone on their toes.

[Sean]

I could have driven to a REAL Las Vegas sportsbook in the time it took for LasVegasSportsbook.com to load.

[Clip Joint]

Thats not unusal because most times a player will get a different expierence playing at the child than the flagship. For example we get different player reviews from WWTS and their "skin" wageronsports. The employees know the rules and are better trained on WWTS's procedures and bonuses than they are on WagerOnSports, player feed back is stronger at the flagship hence a slightly different grade.

That is great for books with different rules...

There are books with the exact same rules and CS reps. The only difference is the domain name. They have different ratings.

[Bill Dozer]

Looking at family groups here mare some big differences:

Bet Corp A+ to C+
CRIS A+ to C
Holly A+ to C+
Lad A+ to C+

Bet Corp A+ to C+:
All of the Sininter books received an automatic upgrade for having WWTS money behind them. After the acquisition of Sininter we continued to get some minor complaints and betting disputes from the Sininter bettors. These issues were resolved by the former Sininter staff and not the current A+ rated WWTS staff. The lone C+ rating is for a site that was not originally included in the list of backed books provided by WWTS to us. It looks to now be in line with Cybersportsbook and the others. When the migration is complete there will likely be further upgrades.

CRIS A+ to C
Any book backed by CRIS should probably be rated above a C. When ASAP was saved by CRIS it received an immediate upgrade to C; since then the website has been somewhat neglected. The phone numbers were wrong for months and the site experienced some independent down time. ASAP seems to be a site that is there to service the bettors that CRIS bailed out. I would guess it is one we might see fade into another CRIS portal like Yabet. To my knowledge it is not marketed and it is not offering any bonuses or incentives.

Anyone who has heard of ASAP knows its a CRIS site. They know they can get different lines at a safe book. The newbie player who is thumbing through high rated books might be confused by a site that says "Happy Holidays" in August.

Holly A+ to C+
Insert AllWorld in the place of ASAP and Hollywood in the place of CRIS above. Allworld's phone number on the site is not functioning right now. Again these are sites that are not seeking new players and are probably only serving those that came with the acquisition. Current players know who the parent company is. These powerhouse Bookmakers simply have not chosen to turn these brands into gold.

Lad A+ to C+
Ladbrokes does not back Playboy. The only provide service for the book. This is why we added the word "management" to this page. Turn-key service providers don't always back their clients.

[Illusion]

The newbie player who is thumbing through high rated books might be confused by a site that says "Happy Holidays" in August.

I wouldn't play at a book that had that up either.

[Mudcat]

The website for LasVegasSportsbook still ain't happening.

[magnavox]

I have no problems loading up LasVegasSportsbook.

As to the Ladbrokes/Playboy issue, the banking says clearly "PB SPBK VIA LADBROK/GIBRALTAR" on CC statements. Thus I believe they ARE backed financially by them?

[jjgold]

It seems like when big books take these smaller books over or use different names the sites are so slow and look like garbage.

I give them a C

[Bill Dozer]

Mag,

Most of the service providers supply processing as well. Processing is one of the biggest reasons why an investor/bookmaker may choose to go turn-key instead of going on their own. Some even use the same Merchant Neteller account.

It is very possible that Ladbrokes would takeover if there was problems. That seems to be the Euro way. I can only say that CS managers stated that they did not back Playboy.

[SBR_John]

We will get some feedback on this book, website and all, in a few days. I wrote them an email saying that their debut has been most unimpressive. But having a few tech projects myself get derailed I know the feeling of relying on tech burritos so lets give them just a bit to get it togther.

[marc]

Site is still very slooowww.

Has anyone seen anything that this book offers that would make you want to play there versus just playing at Hollywood

[Bill Dozer]

I spoke to Hollywood about this. They are guessing it may be a server error and are lookin into it now.

[Rainbow]

Who are these guys, and why such a high grade ?

I was fixing to ask the same question, straight out the gate an A-. Are all books rated an A- out the gate?

[SBR_John]

Rainbow oh no. This book was created and is 100% owned and operated by an A+ book, Hollywood. We usually will start a book in the same family two pegs below the flagship hence A+ for the flagship and A- for their sister book.

[Bill Dozer]

Problem should be fixed now.

[Mudcat]

The site seems fine now. Just set up an account and did a deposit. Got set up for sign-up and cash back on losses bonuses. Customer Service was a little uncertain of the answers to some of my questions but professional overall.

The baseball and boxing lines are calling my name.

I'm good to go.

[Illusion]

All is good now, you should have any more trouble.