[szk1983]

I am using 5dimes, and was just curious why they have an A rating, and not an A+? Also, should I be worried at all about the fact that it's an A, and not an A+, when using this book and wanting payouts?

[BuddyBear]

It's a safe book and has a lot of unique things with their prop bets and stuff but that's really about it, they do have the occassional off line if you look hard enough...

I wouldn't lose any sleep about getting piad....5dimes is extremely safe you'll get paid in a matter of minutes with them....

[moses millsap]

They have plenty of good lines with their bets under "props" section, which is were they have reduced 5c overnight lines on bases with a nickel limit. Even in Boxing, they have a reduced juice number under "Boxing Props" that will often have one side at the best number across the books. The best thing about 5D is their variety in lesser known sports. They'll offer HC betting for tennis on matches in the first rounds, etc. but those have a very low max bet (250). Payouts for me have been under 1hr; sometimes they arrive in 10 minutes, once was 50 minutes or something.

[njschimpf]

There very safe

[Mudcat]

I don't see much of an issue there. A versus A+.

Since A+ is the highest possible mark and they're not as good as Pinnacle, they should not have as high a mark IMO. That would make them an A.

I've heard various complaints about 5 Dimes from time to time. On-line, per ticket limits are on the low side. Some people complain about having sanctions slapped on their accounts. Some people complain about the bonus sytem. There used to be serious issues about website performance at crunch times. I haven't used them for quite awhile so I would be interested to hear if that has improved.

It is a very good book for certain types of plays. They have always been reliable with payouts. A is a very good, appropriate rating IMO.

[ttmopp]

They just limited me to $50 on all soccer, even Serie A, La Liga, Eng Premier. More like 0,05Dimes?? Useless

[RickySteve]

Use the search function.

[jjgold]

5 Dimes is a solid B only, not even close to an A.

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by jjgold

5 Dimes is a solid B only, not even close to an A.

B is generous.

[jjgold]

Ok C+

[Sam Odom]

A Solid B+

[jjgold]

Only guys I know playing at 5 Dimes are $10/$20 bettors

[daystrom]

Software still sucks the big one.

5 Dimes header takes up half the screen. Did they think I was going to make a mistake and believe I was playing at Pro-5?

[jjgold]

Very cheap and unprofessional looking site, I would not play there myself.

[HeinousAnus]

Even if it were a D-rated book your main concern should not be whether or not you will get a payout from them.

Your main concern should be are you going to gamble away all your cash? Are you going to get addicted?

Even Pinnacle is out there to rip you off.

You could argue that SBR encourages gambling, and gambling addiction by giving an impression of safety, when in fact the whole situation is pretty unsafe.

[pags11]

I think they should be about a A- to B+...somewhere in that range...

[Yoshi]

5Dimes is overrated, you wont be happy there as a pro.
All those weird props are sucker bets anyway.

[Sam Odom]

Originally Posted by Yoshi

5Dimes is overrated, you wont be happy there as a pro.

A MUST have baseball book

[Revere14]

Originally Posted by ttmopp

They just limited me to $50 on all soccer, even Serie A, La Liga, Eng Premier. More like 0,05Dimes?? Useless

Care to elaborate? What were your wagers like before being cut?

Revere14

[Tchocky]

Their software sucks and you can only review wagers for the past week. They do have pretty good odds and lots of action that other books don't offer. I don't like their website and find it difficult to get any of my questions answered. One of my buddies got his account closed because he was placing wagers on games that had already started. What a joke!

[pmhueg]

I use them for their NFL super teasers, up to 20 pt teasers.

[ttmopp]

Originally Posted by Revere14

Care to elaborate? What were your wagers like before being cut?

Revere14

I bet Scottish and English leagues mostly, $150-500, although the max was $250 for almost everything except premier leagues. I came home on Friday and saw Watford +2.5 when most of the bookies were at 2.0 and took it instantly without thinking. Then realized later on that it might have been an error line, so that might be the reason I got limited. But they didn't cancel it.. so I don't know. Well I didn't really use them that much anymore now that its all 3-way apart from a few hc line every now and then.

[szk1983]

I don't know why you guys all hate five dimes, but I believe that the biggest issue in grading a book should be it's payouts. Bottom line is that 5dimes is the only book right now that I know of that offers western union withdrawals. I have made three of those in the past week, and the money has been available for me to pick up within an hour. Their other payouts are crazy fast as well. So what's not great about that? And SBR has them in their ratings as a book for professionals.

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by szk1983

And SBR has them in their ratings as a book for professionals.

And they're wrong.

[SBR_John]

5Dimes is a real nice book imo. As some of the posters have already mentioned they have some work to do to make it to the next level. They improve every year although the website still generates some negative feedback. One preference we look at for A+ is sheer size. We would like them to be larger before they receive an upgrade from here. I know this frustrates operators who do not have instant control of that variable. Still, the A+ group as a group are large books with strong, proven management.

[Mudcat]

Originally Posted by szk1983

And SBR has them in their ratings as a book for professionals.

I agree with RickySteve. That's just wrong. I don't have a problem with the A rating; it's a fun reliable book; but the professional tag has never made sense to me.

I wonder if the people at 5 Dimes are even comfortable being categorized that way. Based on their low limits and the unforgiving way they handle bonuses, I have to conclude they don't want much professional attention at all.

[chano]

Bill Dozer, Any comments?

[szk1983]

Well all I know is that I have had only great experiences with payouts, which is why it is an A book, and which is the most important thing. As far as being a professional bettors nightmare, I am not a pro, but I do bet up to like 5 dimes a game, no pun intended. I need to call these bets in and get manager approval, but that has never been a problem and normally takes around 10 seconds for the approval. What's wrong with that?

[Yoshi]

Originally Posted by szk1983

I need to call these bets in and get manager approval

Starting with what amount? 3k 4k 5k?
See thats alrdy a big difference to a book like Pinny, Cascade or Wsex/Cris on major sports.

[Mudcat]

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Starting with what amount? 3k 4k 5k?

Starting with $500. At least that's what it was last I checked (~6 months ago). Even for an NFL pointspread you couldn't bet over $500 per ticket.

You can place multiple $500 bets on some things, but of course they can and will adjust the number between your bets.

It's all well and good to say you can phone them but people like to bet on-line these days. That is probably particularly true of professionals. Someone who just wants to bet the pointspread on the big TV game probably doesn't care about picking up the phone, but last Saturday I placed over 100 wagers. I don't want to have to be phoning people for those bets. On-line is where it's at.

To be considered a professional book, they would need to be better set up for big on-line action (and then address some of these other issues that have been brought up).

[halix]

Originally Posted by Mudcat

Starting with $500. At least that's what it was last I checked (~6 months ago). Even for an NFL pointspread you couldn't bet over $500 per ticket.

You can place multiple $500 bets on some things, but of course they can and will adjust the number between your bets.

It looks like you didn't use them for a while...
They changed their software afew weeks/months ago (to ASI?) - and now you are able to place wagers up to their (resp. your own) limit in one bet.

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by Mudcat

You can place multiple $500 bets on some things, but of course they can and will adjust the number between your bets.

They will also selectively cancel over-limit bets at their discretion.

[szk1983]

Well I've never had a bet "selectively" canceled on me. With the new software you can bet 5k online on all the major sports on one ticket. over 5k, you need managerial approval over the phone. For such a large amount bet, it's no big deal for me to spend the extra minute to call it in. I remember their old software you'd have to do 10 $500 dollar tickets for a 5k bet, so this is much, much better. I guess they wanted to start to live up to the name "5 dimes"

[RickySteve]

Originally Posted by szk1983

Well I've never had a bet "selectively" canceled on me. With the new software you can bet 5k online on all the major sports on one ticket. over 5k, you need managerial approval over the phone. For such a large amount bet, it's no big deal for me to spend the extra minute to call it in. I remember their old software you'd have to do 10 $500 dollar tickets for a 5k bet, so this is much, much better. I guess they wanted to start to live up to the name "5 dimes"

<<yawn>>

[Mudcat]

Okay, sorry. My info was dated. Thanks for the correction.