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Old 07-02-09, 11:53 AM   #1
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I must say i cant believe some of the people that are on here. The amount of time they spend on these math systems and formulas and all that crap is shocking. If you want to win you cant use formulas and all that stuff you need to bet less and look more at trends. The bottom line is that computers arent going to tell you that Brandon Inge is going to hit a 2run homer in the top of the 9th to win the game. People get a clue and stop wasting so much time on this stuff. Get smart and pick games where there are line movements and sharp action.
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Pick winners and everything will fall in place. Math formulas don't play the games. People do.
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what kind of trends tell you that "Brandon Inge is going to hit a 2run homer in the top of the 9th to win the game"
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Old 07-02-09, 12:36 PM   #7
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T'was Canada Day yesterday, lakerboy is still affected by fireworks fumes. Give him a break.
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says the guy who thinks he hits 75% at -110 in NBA and NFL
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I must say i cant believe some of the people that are on here. The amount of time they spend on these math systems and formulas and all that crap is shocking. If you want to win you cant use formulas and all that stuff you need to bet less and look more at trends. The bottom line is that computers arent going to tell you that Brandon Inge is going to hit a 2run homer in the top of the 9th to win the game. People get a clue and stop wasting so much time on this stuff. Get smart and pick games where there are line movements and sharp action.
agree.

and I can prove it.

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I must say i cant believe some of the people that are on here. The amount of time they spend on these math systems and formulas and all that crap is shocking. If you want to win you cant use formulas and all that stuff you need to bet less and look more at trends. The bottom line is that computers arent going to tell you that Brandon Inge is going to hit a 2run homer in the top of the 9th to win the game. People get a clue and stop wasting so much time on this stuff. Get smart and pick games where there are line movements and sharp action.

agree.

and I can prove it.


now its getting interesting
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Old 07-02-09, 01:07 PM   #11
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I am not clear what that was supposed to mean or how it might apply to my methods - but it doesn't matter. I am throwing everything away and starting from scratch. From now on I follow the advice of . . . who was that again? . . . lakerboy.
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My system is Mona:

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Old 07-02-09, 01:32 PM   #13
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look at all the people reacting on here only pavy made any sense
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I simply reuse my lucky pick 3 numbers and play every minus and plus 134 line on the board.
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Okay that's enough time following lakerboy. I am switching to Mona.
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durito have you ever posted a pick
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I must say i cant believe some of the people that are on here. The amount of time they spend on these math systems and formulas and all that crap is shocking. If you want to win you cant use formulas and all that stuff you need to bet less and look more at trends. The bottom line is that computers arent going to tell you that Brandon Inge is going to hit a 2run homer in the top of the 9th to win the game. People get a clue and stop wasting so much time on this stuff. Get smart and pick games where there are line movements and sharp action.
Excellent post, no one wins long term anyway.

Pick your spots, limit your bets
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go lakerboy!

you tell em!
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Excellent post, no one wins long term anyway.

Pick your spots, limit your bets
This comes from the guy who lost $22,000 betting $100 a game for 10 games a night. Pick your spots my ass JJ.

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Excellent post, no one wins long term anyway.

Pick your spots, limit your bets

JJ Gold- telling it like it should be. But gold you have the same problem so many humans have we have trouble listening to ourselves and our inner strength cant control our desire to gamble on everything
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This comes from the guy who lost $22,000 betting $100 a game for 10 games a night. Pick your spots my ass JJ.

You want his next spot to be your ass?
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math is idiatic
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I tried to look up this word, and so far I'm unsuccessful. Its tough being a foreign national trying to keep up with American lingo.

Any ideas from you masters of the Engrish Language?
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relax dutch... capper is just gathering a post count for the bodog tourney... no need to play off what he says or anything as he most likely wont be around for long...
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Just fade the nats the rest of the year. If they actually luck out a win then chase it until they lose again. Too bad their off today.
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relax dutch... capper is just gathering a post count for the bodog tourney... no need to play off what he says or anything as he most likely wont be around for long...
So I can't spin him up?

OK, fvkk 'em. Nevermind.
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no, but it is overrated.

in efficient markets, logic overcomes mathematics.

mathematics is helpful in determining medians, not necessarily in determining outcomes.
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no, but it is overrated.

in efficient markets, logic overcomes mathematics.

mathematics is helpful in determining medians, not necessarily in determining outcomes.
Whaaat?

In efficient markets, juice overcomes logic.

And LOL @ determining outcomes. Straight out of the Broke Lenders book of betting.
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Whaaat?

In efficient markets, juice overcomes logic.

And LOL @ determining outcomes. Straight out of the Broke Lenders book of betting.
Matty, you know you run into this sh*t when you get away from the Think Tank.

...these guys think higher math means counting with their toes instead of just with their fingers.
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Whaaat?

In efficient markets, juice overcomes logic.

And LOL @ determining outcomes. Straight out of the Broke Lenders book of betting.
you think I'm broke? wrong.

markets are more about people than about numbers.

as are sporting events. think about it.

vig doesn't exist if there is overlay, there's not really commission on -110 that should be -117 is there?

depends on perspective.

I'm not saying mathematical models don't work, I'm saying that they are not a requirement long term and I don't think they are optimal.

of course, 90% of SBR posters are going to rush to judgement, disagree, and guffaw. I've seen some posts here.

ground zero: a bettor does not need to make a line, they only need to choose the right side. does math assist in this? maybe. since sportsbooks use mathematical models for the majority of THEIR lines why try to beat them at their own game? it gets complicated with line moves and a myriad of other factors.
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Matty, you know you run into this sh*t when you get away from the Think Tank.

...these guys think higher math means counting with their toes instead of just with their fingers.
how long have you been doing this and what are your records for all sports, college and pro by season?
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