[SoccerCash]

hi guys,

i had opened a account at greek during world cup but never used it i was using bet365 and other books for my mainly soccer bets.
after some euro books stop takin us players i have to chk out carribean books and yst made a bet on the greek for first time deposited through neteller.
ok bet won they graded my bet fast.
good
then decided to withdraw through neteller.guess what you have to be active and in there language active means you have to bet 2 to 3 times every week for 30 days then only you can make a free withdrawal.
what a joke this site is full of robbers trying to make 15 bucks on this. all sites have 1 free withdrawal or a free weekly withdrawal but these scums jus want to rob however they can.
it makes no sense in betting there i jus bet 100-200 per game and 15 bucks for every withdrawl(unless you bet 2 to to 3 times every week on there site ).
i am undecided to close my account or not coz there are hardly any site left to find good soccer bets .

IMP---- small betters stay away from this book

and to greek you have preety much lost my business.

[Sam Odom]

Hardly a scum book nor are they robbers unless you bet F1 and have a tire change !?

[Yoshi]

Here is a lesson for you: read the fvcking rules before using a book.
And another 1 coz iam a nice guy: dont make a stupid post like this as your first.

[SoccerCash]

Originally Posted by Sam Odom

Hardly a scum book nor are they robbers unless you bet F1 and have a tire change !?

your reply is makin no sense and hard to understand.

[SoccerCash]

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Of course the 30 day rule is not written on their page, and of course they would "scam" a guy like you outta 15 bucks.
Great 1st post, next 1 please...

sir 30 day rule is written on there site saying you shud have open your account 30 days or more and my account is open for 30 days no where it is saying you shud place 2 to 3 times every week on there site for a free withdrawal.what kind of joke is these 15 bucks is 15 bucks .

[increasedodds]

Note to poster:

We don't pay attention to idiots that can not read.

Why the hell should they pay your transfer fees if you gave them one bet?

Sean

[Yoshi]

you still look like a idiot if you make a thread like this as your first 1, trust me...

[SoccerCash]

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Here is a lesson for you: read the fvcking rules before using a book.
And another 1 coz iam a nice guy: dont make a stupid post like this as your first.

litsen tard shut your mouth and dont reply with stupid comments and insult me .
nice guy my ass.
maybe you never have to deal with these coz you are a loser so never had a a cashout problem.

[increasedodds]

I've cashed out about $50K from the Greek. And you are right, I've never had a cash out problem.

Sean

[michael777]

TheGreek is a very good book

[Sam Odom]

Originally Posted by SoccerCash

your reply is makin no sense and hard to understand.

The F1 thingy is an inside joke... But to make myself more clear.

If $15.00 is a problem with you then do not bet anywhere at all. Got it?

[Lucas]

hi soccercash,
please do not touch our Greek
Sorry for your 15 USD but you should read something about bookie before you send him money. TheGreek is, god bless, rated everywhere as one of few who takes professional action. If you see somwhere this you should everytime pay attention to transaktion fees. There are much better bookies for you; scum is not suitable word.

[jjgold]

Greek is ranked top 3 in the world

Funny thread

[Stumpage]

Wow...Greek is awesome...Personally, I'd rank them second (behind only Pinnacle) and I'm pretty sure most have them highly ranked. If they're a "scum book", good luck with the actual bottom-dwellers out there...

[kalmikrazy]

This thread needs to be deleted or locked. This newbie has no sense about betting. He seems way to happy about probable winning a $25 soccer bet and looking to withdraw and get rich off of that. See how long this book has been around and their ratings historically.

AND BELIEVE ME, NEITHER THE GREEK NOR ANYONE HERE WILL BE LOSING SLEEP IF YOU STOP GIVING THEM BUSINESS.

PS - Dont open an account with a book if you NOT using it. Basic knowledge.

[SoccerCash]

Originally Posted by Lucas

hi soccercash,
please do not touch our Greek
Sorry for your 15 USD but you should read something about bookie before you send him money. TheGreek is, god bless, rated everywhere as one of few who takes professional action. If you see somwhere this you should everytime pay attention to transaktion fees. There are much better bookies for you; scum is not suitable word.

lucas,

you right maybe scum is not right but its quite clear if you chk there site under neteller it says account shud open for last 30 days . it never said that you have to bet 2 to 3 times a week on there site for free withdrawal.
what a cheap book cant afford 1 free withdrawal a month.
keep suckin the ratings the rest of you i think tards over here will bet there mom with greek coz they have a rating.

[Bill Dozer]

TheGreek gives a free payout every 2 weeks. They automatically pay your fees coming in. You have to bet to get it free on the way out.

Players will usually get free payouts if there is some action but they are not a book that wants to spend time moving the same player's money in and out daily. VIP or Bodog would be a better fit for you.

[Yoshi]

the title of this thread should be changed, that guy is a little kid anyway ^^

[Lucas]

soccercash,
I do not know it exactly, but they have something like "the account must be active to get the free withdrawal". I like the rule. Because any bookie pays for all deposits and payouts - and if we look deeper: it is not bookie but player who pays. So bookies that are too generous can not afford winners. It is simple logic.

As Mr. Dozer says - bet at another shop. If you bet on soccer - and you are European bettor - why not chose any Euro bookie (for example Expekt has Asian handicaps too). They have free payouts with no restriction. And Pinnacle has one free payout a month (but you must bet the deposited amount at least once).

Choosing TheGreek is in your case like driving on holiday with Soviet truck.

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by SoccerCash

what a joke this site is full of robbers trying to make 15 bucks on this.

Respectfully SoccerCash I have to disagree with you too. Only last week in fact this book gave me >$400 in cash bonus money after I inquired about a referral. Now according to their terms and conditions they said that technically I wasn't entitled - but they paid it to me anyway, like the classy book they are.

IMHO then I'd have to say that this is hardly the M.O. of a "robber"...what you think?

[JoshW]

As others have said, you have to give them action. I personally don't like the "active" requirement, but I do think a couple time rollover before free cashout is acceptable.

[louis]

When one makes a wager at a sportsbook in Vegas, there are no fees to cash out.

I think you guys are a little hard on this fellow. Obviously he is new to online gaming, and new to English. We don't need to bash him.

For those new to gaming, having to pay a fee to withdraw is in fact annoying, and does seem like stealing.

I would suggest VIP, as they are an A+ book that does not charge fees to withdraw.

For those who want high limits, and a book that takes professional action without a problem, the Greek is definitely the way to go.

Personally, I don't pay much attention to fees. The bonuses more than make up for them, and I'm more concerned with sportsbooks that are going to pay.

[Yoshi]

Originally Posted by louis

I would suggest VIP, as they are an A+ book that does not charge fees to withdraw.
For those who want high limits, and a book that takes professional action without a problem, the Greek is definitely the way to go.

I know we had this too often already now...but you can also get a free payout at Pinny, free payouts at CRIS every friday, a free payout at Jamaica etc - i dont see the reason why VIP is always mentioned. And CRIS, Pinny, Wsex take the same "pro action" as Greek.

[HeinousAnus]

Sorry but, saying 'read the small print you fool' is just a bullsh*t attitude.

The bookies scam us enough without hitting us again by not being up front about hidden charges.

I once went to a site, Livebetting.com, and placed some bets (or so I thought). There was no on-screen receipt saying the bet had been accepted, however the 'pending bets' were clearly displayed in my account and (everywhere else that I have ever been to 'pending bet' means the bet has been accepted). Then after the result it turns out the bets hadn't been accepted at all. They were using the words 'pending bets' to mean bets that hadn't been matched.

When I complained they said when I created the account, I agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions. In the long list of terms and conditions their meaning of the words 'pending bets' are clearly explained. 'If you had read the terms and conditions you would not have had a problem therefore the problem is not that we made the site confusing and misleading, it's that you didn't read the terms and conditions.'

That sort of thing is just plain bullsh*t and bad for the industry. Do we really want to each spend hours trawling through the small print of every betting company, just to make sure we don't get hit by some hidden charge, unusual rule, or the fact the website we are betting at is the only one in the world that has 3 confirmation screens, or something like that.

Basically bookies need to try and make things as clear and straightforward as possible.

In this case The Greek should have:
1) said when SoccerCash made the deposit that he would not be able to withdraw for free without making the account active.
2) It should be easy to find out what 'making the account active' means.
And 3) when he made the withdrawal they should have warned him that the account was not active, and that he would therefore incur a surcharge. Then they should have given him the choice to continue the transaction or not.

I don't use The Greek, so I don't know if they doo-doo.

[pags11]

the Greek is a good book...bottom line...

[imgv94]

Please change the Title of this thread...

[RickySteve]

I completely agree with the title of the thread.

[cultheld]

The Greek is a very reliable bookmaker in my humble opinion. It's on my top 50 bookmakers list and I know hundreds of them.

[Odds-Hunter]

Greek is number 2 or 3 without a doubt on the planet.

Besides Pinnacle of course, only Wsex can flip flop either way 2 or 3 with The Greek.

Hands down no further discussion needed

Very laughable thread, though...thanks for the comedy SoccerCash

[Chuck Sims]

The Greek is top notch. To hit and run and then complain that they are scum for not picking up your fees is lame. Winners play at The Greek and give them thumbs up.

[pags11]

agreed chuck...

[HeinousAnus]

What it takes to make one's account active, and thereby qualify for free Neteller withdrawals is not explained on the site.

Someone might reasonably decide that if they deposit via Neteller, place a bet and then withdraw, then their account is active and they are entitled to a free withdrawal via Neteller. A lot of other sites operate in this way.

This is probably what happened with SoccerCash, and as such he has some valid reason to be unhappy with the Greek.

To prevent future misunderstanding, they should be completely open about what it takes to get free withdrawals via Neteller.

In e-mailing them I was told it takes 2-3 bets per week. I wanted clarification on this and found that one person was unhelpful and wasted my time, but another, Wally, was very helpful.

In the end it transpired that 2 bets of $5 or more, per week, is the minimum requirement.

[pags11]

the title of this thread definitely needs to be changed as the greek is an up and up book...

[RickySteve]

High class books don't close accounts for requesting a transaction history.

[Mr. NBA]

A buddy of mine had a shit show with them...CS was just flat horrible....i will never go back to them because of the issue he had getting his money from them.....and no i am not saying they were trying to stiff him.....im saying it took my buddy about 4 or 5 days to get his jack....and every CS rep gave a diff. BS answer as to why the money was not in his neteller. When a book ****s me or somebody I know(posters included) i refuse to give em my business PERIOD.