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Old 06-22-09, 11:27 AM   #1
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The first is avoid low rated books. If you google Oddsmaker you see all of their many scams;
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Players should continue to remind their fellow players to avoid this scam.

These scams give critics of online gaming added fuel. Both players and industry websites should work together to stop them.

If this recent victim wishes to pursue any channels of collection that carrys a cost he should contact SBR for aid. There was, and still is a robust legal fund set up by SBR for the Cascade victims to chase down scammer Lenny that has a surplus.

SBR guys should also keep up the pressure and find out who the processors of this scam book are and inform them they are doing business with a known scam(send them links). Also pressure the software company and the ISP and hosting company.

Crusades take time and sometimes money. But they are important. Other lower rated books watch to see if Oddsmaker can get away with a scam like this. Do your part, next time it could be you.
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Old 06-22-09, 11:30 AM   #2
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Amen.

I am nervous for anyone with high balances in Oddsmaker. Try to withdraw and they WILL find something to fukk you.

Hell, even this clown the Shrink says that IT IS IN THEIR RULES THAT THEY CAN SUSPECT YOU OF SCAMMING AT ANY POINT AND WITHHOLD YOUR MONIES!! Wow that's super!

Thank God I found SBR long ago and quit using these garbage books back in the day
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Old 06-22-09, 11:30 AM   #3
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Should sticky an oddsmaker scam book thread at the top of the page.
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Old 06-22-09, 11:31 AM   #4
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Professional players or PLAYERS CONSIDERED TO BE ABUSING THE BONUS SYSTEM BY ANY MEANS may have bonuses revoked and be subject to further sanctions, at the discretion of OddsMaker.com management.
Shrink keeps citing this rule as if it gives him some leg to stand on. That is beyond absurd. They might as well just take all winnings from every account.
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Old 06-22-09, 11:32 AM   #5
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I would not play at Oddsmaker. I have played at hundreds of books and they are the worst book I have ever seen in terms of paying out. You might as well kiss your money goodbye when you deposit with them. This is why I'm an advocate of posters gambling between each other at SBR. This will eliminate the crooked middle man.
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Old 06-22-09, 11:33 AM   #6
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Brock Landers would be penalized and never paid by Oddsmaker because he KNEW that Cincy game would go over. How did he KNOW? Serious system abuse there.
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Old 06-22-09, 11:35 AM   #7
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Brock Landers would be penalized and never paid by Oddsmaker because he KNEW that Cincy game would go over. How did he KNOW? Serious system abuse there.
Where do you come up with that material??
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Old 06-22-09, 11:40 AM   #8
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Amen.

I am nervous for anyone with high balances in Oddsmaker. Try to withdraw and they WILL find something to fukk you.

Hell, even this clown the Shrink says that IT IS IN THEIR RULES THAT THEY CAN SUSPECT YOU OF SCAMMING AT ANY POINT AND WITHHOLD YOUR MONIES!! Wow that's super!

Thank God I found SBR long ago and quit using these garbage books back in the day
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Old 06-22-09, 11:44 AM   #9
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It's a bit of sucking off Juror, but also truth. I was using Sportsbook and Oddsmaker before I realized that I was just throwing money into high potential scam books.

Which is the same thing I do at reputable books anyways, but that's a different story. Yea me square.
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Old 06-22-09, 11:50 AM   #10
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I agree with ya.

Oddsmaker -scam -thieve -bookie -stealing -fraud -mafia

we need the google bot to pick this up
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Old 06-22-09, 11:55 AM   #11
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I thought your wife was the one that found SBR and she told you about it
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Old 06-22-09, 11:56 AM   #12
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I thought your wife was the one that found SBR and she told you about it
Excellent point.

You really think he is married?
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Old 06-22-09, 11:57 AM   #13
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His wife registered at least one month before he did on SBR
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Old 06-22-09, 12:35 PM   #14
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What's your point Sherlock Rake? She did find it here first....I found it through her. Do you think I wasn't betting before SBR?

Try again.
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Old 06-22-09, 12:38 PM   #15
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Wow. Post dicection is alive and well. He said he found it long ago, he didn't make mention of how, maybe he didn't feel the need to go into detail for sake of boring people, maybe he should have done. Who gives a fukk anyway?
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Old 06-22-09, 01:49 PM   #16
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Oddsmaker has and always will be a scam book. Shrink has and always will be a fraud. This most recent situation, while tragic to say the least, is good because it allows some of the guys who havent been around for too long to see the ways the industry can work sometimes, and why Shrink gets chased off the forum every time he pops his head in. Theres a valuable lesson to be learned here. Jimmy mac - sorry it came at your expense but just know, you saved alot of people the heartache of going through the same situation and that will not be forgotten.


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Old 06-22-09, 02:24 PM   #17
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To add to AAO's post at LEAST he didn't deposit say like $100 and go on a sick run and turn it into $8,400 and then have to deal with this. I am not by any means justifying them being cokk sucking scum bags but I am just saying that the lesson was learned at JM's expense AND it was a free lesson...
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To add to AAO's post at LEAST he didn't deposit say like $100 and go on a sick run and turn it into $8,400 and then have to deal with this. I am not by any means justifying them being cokk sucking scum bags but I am just saying that the lesson was learned at JM's expense AND it was a free lesson...
But, it's not.

He thought he was placing real wagers. He wasn't just playing pretend. He could have made those wagers somewhere else. By what the player has said about his wagering history, he's a pretty big loser that went on a nice run. So what if it started with a free play, it could have just as easily been a deposit.

I've had books try to confiscate winnings from a free play or bonus after my account was deemed non recreational. That was still my money, I made those wagers, I won, I deserved to be paid. So does Jimmy.
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I totally agree Durito... I was just piggy backing on what AAO said about everyone learning a lesson at Jimmy's expense...
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Never deposited there, sucks for the guy but at least it was a free play and not deposited funds
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The first is avoid low rated books. If you google Oddsmaker you see all of their many scams;
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Players should continue to remind their fellow players to avoid this scam.

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SBR guys should also keep up the pressure and find out who the processors of this scam book are and inform them they are doing business with a known scam(send them links). Also pressure the software company and the ISP and hosting company.

Crusades take time and sometimes money. But they are important. Other lower rated books watch to see if Oddsmaker can get away with a scam like this. Do your part, next time it could be you.
i guess they will learn from experience.been dealing with bodog for both sports and poker and havent had a problem withthen just yet,so if it isnt broke dont fix it
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Old 06-22-09, 03:42 PM   #22
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Shrink fukked EOG posters real good
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I wonder if the Shrink does yayo with Felipe, the co owner of Oddsmaker. They probably go to Zimbabwe and score some good Heroin and smoke it together. God Bless
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Old 06-22-09, 06:33 PM   #24
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EOG continues to smear SBR and blame SBR for not getting this guy paid. where do they come up with that bs? eog lost any credibility they had. how they can back that book is beyond me.
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The Shrink? Just look at him. He looks like a POS. What a scumbag. After reading his explanation maybe people with a brain who post there will realize what a con artist he isand realize how worthless he really is if they ever get in a dispute.

Maybe the Shrink could post those pictures again of Mofo when he left. They were some lame ass pics of Mo wearing Cross Colors stupid looking shit. This was around the same time of the x-mas party at shitbags house. That is what people get from this scumbag.
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Old 06-22-09, 06:40 PM   #26
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I'm using his picture as my desktop. LOL, douchebags.
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You can tell that the Shrink septum is gone. God Bless the good yayo he is doing these days. I remember back in the day the Shrink would buy the stepped on nothing but duff garbage yayo, he is buying top notch fish scale peruvian now.
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Guys Shrink uses the powder so he needs money and will do anything to get it.
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You would think if they made the right decision that at least A FEW other posters would have their back.

As best I can tell, it's pretty much just the Shrink backing his ruling with asinine reasoning, with his lap dog Mofome "yes manning" right behind him.

What a bunch of sorry scheps.
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The Shrink is wrong and he knows it. This is just bad publicity for EOG.
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that thread is sickening. its sad when not 1 poster of theirs sides with eog management.
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So Oddsmaker justifies confiscating Jimmy's winnings by claiming attempted bonus abuse.
They have a rule in place which can be broadly interpreted.

"Dad, I'm a good gambler, set this up and I'll make the plays. You can have half
of any profits. You don't have to put up any money. It's a free play."

Is this what happened? Only Jimmy and his father know. Everyone else is
speculating using tidbits of information. He didn't call the number on
the e-mailed offer, instead used regular customer service. He's guilty!

Most telling for me is why would a guy who is up several dimes not request a
withdrawal before trying to scam an extra bonus? Doesn't make sense but proves nothing.
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So Oddsmaker justifies confiscating Jimmy's winnings by claiming attempted bonus abuse.
They have a rule in place which can be broadly interpreted.

"Dad, I'm a good gambler, set this up and I'll make the plays. You can have half
of any profits. You don't have to put up any money. It's a free play."

Is this what happened?
NO, thats not what happened one bit.the story doesnt even resemble that.
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NO, thats not what happened one bit.the story doesnt even resemble that.
How do you know what two people said to each other in private?

Don't believe everything you read.

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