[SlickFazzer]

[onthewhat]

I bet Fishhead knows a thing or two with his casino experience.

He may be an expert dice roller.

[MonkeyF0cker]

What is a craps specialist exactly, Slick? You mean a dice setter?

[Casperwaits]

What do you want to know. I have played craps numerous times in Vegas & Atlantic City

[SlickFazzer]

There are professional sports bettors, professional poker players....

is there such a thing as a "Professional" Craps player...?

[Casperwaits]

There are professional sports bettors, professional poker players....

is there such a thing as a "Professional" Craps player...?

Of course. Hell, there are professional slots players. If there are odds, angles, and ways to maximize profit, their will always be pros.

[MonkeyF0cker]

There are professional sports bettors, professional poker players....

is there such a thing as a "Professional" Craps player...?

There are supposedly people who have been able to master "dice control," which can give you an edge in craps. It takes many, many hours of practice, however. I, personally, have never met someone here in Vegas that has but there are a couple of places here that try to teach it to people, along with several books on the subject.

[pavyracer]

The easiest way to win in craps is to not roll the dice. Place your bet on the number you like, place the dice in your hands with the number the bet is placed facing up, throw the dice with a flat trajectory landing them level with the table without bouncing but just skidding the cloth and you have a winner.

[Fishhead]

Through "dice control", craps can be beaten.

Anyone that subscribes to BJ21's Green Chip membership(Stanford Wongs site) knows quite a bit on how this is done.

Personally, never attemped it seriously and probably never will.

[InTheHole]

Do you know the Dominator? Fish?

[Mudcat]

If you just bet and fling the dice, craps is a losing proposition in the long run. The odds dictate that.

However there are people who can turn the game in their favor. This is done by creating strategic wind currents that influence the dice. The main methods are extreme fluttering of the eyelashes and/or turbo-farts.

At casinos where security is more lax, the professional craps player will smuggle in a leaf blower. You couldn't get away with that on the strip though.

[Fishhead]

Frank Scoblete’s new Casino Killer College is coming to Tunica on April 21 – for one night only! What is this college? Why Frank is holding classes which can give you an edge at games such as slots, video poker, and Pai Gow poker. Here is the schedule for the weekend. You’ll note this is also the weekend when Golden Touch™ is doing its two-day dice control class as well.
Advantage Slot Machines and Video Poker, Other Good Machines, Maximizing Cashback and Comps: This class is given by two experts in the field – gaming columnists Jerry "Stickman" and Street Dog (who just hit for a major slot jackpot!). They will explain which slot machines can give players an edge over the house and which are the best video poker machines to play – and what optimum strategies to use. They will also discuss the best non-advantage slot and video poker machines that are close contests between the house and the player. Includes excellent information on maximizing cashback and comps.



Advantage Pai Gow Poker: Many players don’t realize that Pai Gow Poker is a beatable game – if the players know what they are doing – playing the right games with the right strategies. This class will teach you how to expertly play your hands and how to use the banking element of the game to get the edge over the casino. The instructors of this course are Frank Scoblete and Dominator. States Frank Scoblete: "This class will be hands on instruction. Pai Gow is a great game and it can be beaten."

Golden Touch™ Dice Control Class: The only way to beat craps is to learn how to control the dice. Learn how to do this from the World’s Greatest Dice Control Experts in a two-day class that teaches you the art of Golden Touch™ dice control taught by Frank Scoblete, Dominator, Stickman, Rock ‘n Roller, Mr. Finesse, Chip, Billy.


Golden Touch™ Dice Control Revolution! ($16.95) co-author Dominator

[SlickFazzer]

Thanks Fishhead.

[jjgold]

Fishhead knows all the angles of casino games

what does this guy not know?

[mathdotcom]

how to get girls

but who needs girls when you have $$

[big joe 1212]

Too bad you have to throw the dice in the casino!

he is pretty good though!

[reno cool]

As far as I know nothing has been proven about anyone actually influencing the dice at a casino with a legal throw. I remember the wizard of odds was supposed observe a thrower with an impressive record on New Years eve in a casino a couple of years ago. But, I never heard what happened.

[xyzky]

Reno Cool: Where do you live?? People get backed off of craps tables all of the time, especially when you are rolling some nice #'s!! Been rolled off personally and I am not a true dice roller!!

[Justin7]

As far as I know nothing has been proven about anyone actually influencing the dice at a casino with a legal throw. I remember the wizard of odds was supposed observe a thrower with an impressive record on New Years eve in a casino a couple of years ago. But, I never heard what happened.

You ever hear about the Fezzik/Wong challenge?

[reno cool]

I've heard of Wong doing some stuff with dice. But from what I remember his # were less than impressive. I don't know if he's done better since? Maybe you can briefly describe what happened?

[reno cool]

Reno Cool: Where do you live?? People get backed off of craps tables all of the time, especially when you are rolling some nice #'s!! Been rolled off personally and I am not a true dice roller!!

I've never heard or witnessed this.

In the past some casinos didn't allow you to set dice. But it's been a while since I've seen this. Most people do some kind of sets. And I think the casinos decided it's not worth antagonizing players.

Granted, things could be different for large stakes.

[pico]

do we have a professional crapper here at sbr?

[reno cool]

I agree, it is a small sample size.

There are other statistical tools you use when training... A key is how often the dice rotate "in sync". If each die rotates the same number of times, you can always avoid a 7 with the right set...

Crappers rate themselves on their long-term "7 ratio". If you're rolling a 7 every 6.4 throws, you can make a fortune. The best claim to have ratios around 7.

I actually know a couple other throwers who have trained for this. It takes constant practice to keep up your game, and a huge time commitment up front. It's easier to just beat sports and Blackjack.

Yeh, this thing in and of itself doesn't prove much.
If someone can show a 6.5-1 7's ratio the amount of $ he can make would be phenomenal. BJ wouldn't even be on the map in comparison. Don't know where you're comming from.

If they haven't made millions they're full of shit.