[jjgold]

Gone will be the exchanges, very little volume now so wait until next year

Sportsbooks in general catering to Americans will have very large drops starting this summer.

Even places like Pinny are really going to feel it.

[Santo]

Exchanges will be fine, might just force them to market to the Europeans who know how they work rather than Americans. Matchbook already putting up more soccer, tennis, golf than ever before.

[Revere14]

Wow nice work jjgold -- are you pulling numbers out of thin air again??? Honestly I think more people are gambling on the internet every year and this bill will have NO effect on the number of people doing it from the US or elsewhere. Worst case they may have to change their deposit and withdrawal methods.

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[jjgold]

Hey pal how you going to get money there?

Neteller will be gone, this is no joke

Gov't is going all out on this you shall see

[SBR_John]

From the hip I'd say 40% off is a good estimate.

But nothing this industry has not been through before. The herd will again be thinned. Money processors will rise up and fill any void. Neteller was just an obscure tiny company that sucked hind tit to the mighty Paypal back in the day. If Neteller pulls out someone else will pull in. The show will go on.

[jjgold]

Johhny I hope so, I want nothing more than than gambling portals and books to do well but I am a realist and one of the top ten most accurate posters ever to hit the gambling baords so I am usually pretty accurate in my predictions. It will be very difficult to get money in and out which will deter many players.

[Scorpion]

books will start to offer their own atm cards....
I wish they had done this sooner

wsex, olympic, pinny, cris,...will get many of the poker players from the pokers sites that will not accept the US residents. They will make millions more...am i right??
So, the A rated books we play at will become even stronger.....

so I dont think 40% is accurate

[Yoshi]

The top books might get even stronger. As i said before, this doesnt have to be a bad thing for us. Seriously, who needs shit places like sportsbook.com or BOS type suckers?

[Scorpion]

I dont know but right now wsex owner must be super happy about all the money he will make from the new poker players from party poker, 888,...who will join wsex soon

[SBR_John]

I think the 40% is the dip from the high to the low, not where it will stay.

Its probably even money that bet volume at this time next year will be above where it is now. This industry always finds a way.

[jjgold]

Volume higher next year at books +230
Volume lower next year at books -250

Who wants action?

[Yoshi]

of course volume of all books together will be lower...the question is will it be lower for places like pinny, cris or greek.
They might get new customers that dont want to play at lower shops anymore.

[Revere14]

Volume higher next year at books +230
Volume lower next year at books -250

Who wants action?

I will take higher for the limit please. How do you plan on verifying this?

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[isetcap]

This is not a bet you want to make, JJ.

[tacomax]

I'm wondering how the figure of 40% was arrived at. Was it rounding up the final calcualtion of 39.685% after extensive analysis of a number of different correlated variables or was it a case of picking the first number that came in your head?

[pags11]

was wondering that myself tacomax...interesting that he's able to come up with these statistics...

[jjgold]

I know many big book owners personally, they give me the numbers and once you have a place like Cris's volume it is easy to do the math and come up with the 40% figure. I do my homework.

[pags11]

I do believe you do your homework JJ, but to make a prediction like that is pretty amazing considering so much is up in the air right now...

[tacomax]

I do believe you do your homework JJ

OK. That's when your post starts to lose credibility.

[pags11]

tacomax,

I'm wondering whether it's better to have credibility in question, or not to have any credibility at all (as in your case)...

it's clear that JJ's been around the industry...he is a lot of things, flamboyant, tends to stretch the truth, draws attention to himself...what you can't dispute about JJ is that he is knowledgable about the industry and has been around the industry for years, regardless of how he expresses his views...

[tblues2005]

I agree with SBRJohn here, I think that it will drop off some because of fear but these books that are A and A+ are really smart, they will find a way to get money back and forth safely and easily. You might have to do it in lower amounts like $1,000 and less but it will be done somehow. I am willing to say that their plan "B" is effect and even a plan "C" will be planned next, I think they will stay a step ahead of the government because the government has a lot more to worry about than the books do. I predict it will be down somewhere around 20 percent, but you will send more stuff coming in the mail from the top books to customers that are pulling out now and they will get them back. I certainly believe that the next president and congress in the USA will find some type of regulation would be a better way to go here, it is just a matter of time that it will happen though, but that will be after the 2008 election before anything is done though and that can go by pretty quickly also.

[LineHunter]

Anyone have any credible numbers for volume at top books this past weekend? Anyone talking to the books and have even anecdotal comments about how much volume is off?

[pags11]

wish I had contacts like that linehunter, but am just wondering what those numbers were myself...