[caracalla]

Since January 2006 Italian law forces ISP’s to block more than 600 bookies/poker websites.

No problem. You can go at

http://www.oscuramentositi.com

and with

http://ets.freetranslation.com/

you can translate simply from Italian to English

and you can access (3 different methods, but I advice you the forst) to websites without problems.

[Scorpion]

which method is frost?

[Scorpion]

another methiod?
http://psiphon.civisec.org/

[ourbet]

FYI caracalla I use two services, the first one is called Metropipe, which allows me to surf blocked sites pretty much as fast as my IP connection and the second, my back-up (which is not so good) is called FindNot.

FWIW I spend a few bucks to make a lot of bucks and IMHO it’s well, WELL worth it using a paid service over any software or horrible free URL (i.e. Anonymizer, etc.,) alternative.

Good Luck!

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by Scorpion

another methiod?
http://psiphon.civisec.org/

This looks pretty cool Scorpion. Do you use this yourself?

[Concorde]

Originally Posted by ourbet

FYI caracalla I use two services, the first one is called Metropipe, which allows me to surf blocked sites pretty much as fast as my IP connection and the second, my back-up (which is not so good) is called FindNot.

FWIW I spend a few bucks to make a lot of bucks and IMHO it’s well, WELL worth it using a paid service over any software or horrible free URL (i.e. Anonymizer, etc.,) alternative.

Good Luck!

Ourbet,

I have a q. I discovered these sites in February when i was force to look at something to avoid the block before we discovered the solutions that Caracalla sad. I know that using these you are going to loose in terms of speed but i do not know how exactly much because i never tryed them. How much you loose? For example if you are surfing at a 10MB without the tunnels, at how much you "speed" whit them? Is someone better than another?

I used steganos for a little period, well i was surfing at a 2MB instead than my usual 6MB so a huge loss of 66%.

Thanks.

[Scorpion]

Originally Posted by ourbet

This looks pretty cool Scorpion. Do you use this yourself?

no
i dont know if its for web sites blocking countries or for isp's blocking web sites

[ourbet]

Thank you for your question Concorde,

First off, I only use Metropipe’s “Tunneller Gold” service, which is the cheaper of the two services they provide. I find that it does slow my service but not significantly as I only have a 1Mbps connection speed. Apparently I must be sitting right on the POP itself because most of the time my connection speed is >900Kbps. When connected to Metropipe though this falls to around 500-750Kbps, depending on the time of the day.

Now as I said, I only use their cheaper service (at $5.83 per month); their premium service, which costs $23.33 per month does claim:

Originally Posted by Metropipe

• Dedicated high bandwidth VPN Servers with low user ratio provides extremely fast and reliable speed.
• High speed 25 Gigabyte bandwitdth pack per month included.

As for FindNot, it’s really in a different league, a lot slower basically but as I need a “Plan B”, the $9.95 spent per month is definitely worth it just in case Metropipe is playing-up, which it has done a handful (<5) of times during the past year.

I hope this helps.

[pags11]

we will figure out ways around things...

[jjgold]

Getting money to the books will be the major problem, not getting around blocks

[caracalla]

I'm sorry, not forst but first.

You simply change file hosts, changing name website with their IP: same speed, same website, all the same...

Even if I agree with JJgold: " Getting money to the books will be the major problem, not getting around blocks "... Fortunately in Italy no law against banks or creditcards.

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by caracalla

You simply change file hosts

How is this done please caracalla? As I'd like to try that from here. Thank you!

[caracalla]

First method is very simple:

Press the button Start (at bottom left) and click on "Run/Perform"
Write or past the following address: C: /windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
Same if you use computer resource
For Windows 2000 the file hosts is found in: C: /winnt/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
For Windows 98 the file hosts is found in: C: /Windows/hosts
You have to open this file (program “blocco note”, I don’t know if it is blocknotes in English)
Open a new explorer window and go to www.oscuramentositi.com/wp-content/hosts.txt
(for your knowledgment, this file translate website name in his IP address: www.sportingbet.com is 213.52.217.63 as www.sportsbookreview.com is 209.200.142.20: IPS’s block name, not IP address: too much difficult)
(You can find IP address, START – DOS command – ping websitename)
Copy and paste www.oscuramentositi.com/wp-content/hosts.txt in your hosts file
Save and close Explorer

Now you can access without problem at every books

[caracalla]

Originally Posted by jjgold

Getting money to the books will be the major problem, not getting around blocks

You can override this problem too, but I can't explain too well so far. If the problem becomes impelling, you can PM me (only if SBR members at 09/30/2006: better safe than sorry, as another SBR member said) but only at December, if the problem is persisting.

The only thing I can say is: you have to open a new fake account (as KURT SWCHEIZ, from Switzerland, Monaco or Litchstetein or so on) and try to put in it at lest $10 (poker freeroll tournament, contest or so on); same time you have to open a new Neteller account same name and data. then.... no problem depositing in your real account.

[caracalla]

To SBR Jhon.

I read another post chinese people are forbidden to join and enter SBR forum. If you can, you have to tell them to add their hosts file this line


209.200.142.20 www.sportsbookreview.com.com

and

209.200.142.28 forum.sbrforum.com

[ourbet]

Thank you caracalla, I have actually already tried entering IP addresses before from here but what the heck; I'll give it another shot following your instructions this time. Thanks again for the advice.

[caracalla]

Tell me ....

[rolemand]

Originally Posted by ourbet

FYI caracalla I use two services, the first one is called Metropipe, which allows me to surf blocked sites pretty much as fast as my IP connection and the second, my back-up (which is not so good) is called FindNot.

FWIW I spend a few bucks to make a lot of bucks and IMHO it’s well, WELL worth it using a paid service over any software or horrible free URL (i.e. Anonymizer, etc.,) alternative.

Good Luck!

I'm confused. Is Anonymizer a good option or a poor option? Anonymizer is not free. It's a $100.

[datek23]

Originally Posted by caracalla

First method is very simple:

Press the button Start (at bottom left) and click on "Run/Perform"
Write or past the following address: C: /windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
Same if you use computer resource
For Windows 2000 the file hosts is found in: C: /winnt/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
For Windows 98 the file hosts is found in: C: /Windows/hosts
You have to open this file (program “blocco note”, I don’t know if it is blocknotes in English)
Open a new explorer window and go to www.oscuramentositi.com/wp-content/hosts.txt
(for your knowledgment, this file translate website name in his IP address: www.sportingbet.com is 213.52.217.63 as www.sportsbookreview.com is 209.200.142.20: IPS’s block name, not IP address: too much difficult)
(You can find IP address, START – DOS command – ping websitename)
Copy and paste www.oscuramentositi.com/wp-content/hosts.txt in your hosts file
Save and close Explorer

Now you can access without problem at every books

Before you run/perform as mentioned, do you have to install Metropipe or Findnot first and then do Run/Perform as mentioned?

[caracalla]

No anonymizer needs. no installing program: omly hosts file

[caracalla]

You have to change only hosts file, you on your computer: no program, no anonymizer, no firewall, no strange things. You can check at google what is hosts file: it's a normal MS file you can change everytime you want. Last week I had a problem about Legends only because I inserted a wrong IP address inspite of Legendz website real name.

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by rolemand

I'm confused. Is Anonymizer a good option or a poor option? Anonymizer is not free. It's a $100.

My apologies rolemand, I can no longer find Anonymizer's URL but basically it worked on the same principle as this, from the Cloak.

[rolemand]

Originally Posted by ourbet

My apologies rolemand, I can no longer find Anonymizer's URL but basically it worked on the same principle as this, from the Cloak.

Pretty funny. 1st line the Cloak's T&C

You may not use the Cloak for any illegal purposes. This includes but is not limited to the transmission or receipt of illegal material.

[Concorde]

Ourbet,

For sure seems better than Steganos. I see some have different packages so maybe with their best you loose not much. Then the tunnel will not needed for watching streaming or downloading files so not such a problem.

As about the block i am not sure that our systems ( the ones described by Caracalla ) will work because the block that italian ISP made was not "complete" ( it was defined a joke ). I am not a tech expert but i heard that, bottom line changing the DNS on your connection will not work so proxyes will be the way to go but we will never reach that point and it will not be needed.

It is going to happen exactly what happened in China and what happend here. USA blocks you access to ...

www.pinnaclesports.com
www.betcris.com

etc etc . ...

After that Pinnacle and CRIS change their URLS so you reach them at ...

www.pinnaclesports1.com
www.cris1.com

Then they block www.pinnaclesports1.com and www.cris1.com so you "type"

www.pinnaclesports2.com
www.betcris2.com

and so on.

It is a loose battle for them. This has become comical in China.


Caracalla,

Mi pare che il nostro blocco non e' stato "completo" e quindi abbiamo potuto aggirarlo con quei tre sistemi. Non a caso e' stato definito una farsa. Qui farebbero un blocco "totale" quindi cambiando i DNS non servirebbe. Comunque le soluzioni ci sono ( e poi a noi che c'e ne frega? scherzo ).

Mi ricordo prima del nostro blocco un panico totale su i "nostri" forum che visitavo, poi si e' rivelato una bolla di sapone. Vedrai che succedera' lo stesso qui anche se l'attacco e' piu' serio.

Che connessione usi? Io fastweb 6MB ( dovrebbero portarlo a 20MB a dicembre! ).

[Dark Horse]

Great thread!

Thanks for all the helpful info.

[caracalla]

Ohhhhh, another italian people. We are use to find solutions our big probelms, century and century..... . I'll send PM.

Ciao, Concorde

Dark Horse: I'm very happy you find interesting information. As Concorde said "...It is a loose battle for them..."

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by Concorde

Then the tunnel will not needed for watching streaming or downloading files so not such a problem.

That's true but to be honest, because I've got a relatively slower connection speed here than you in Italy or the guys from the US, I do all my surfing through the VPN. I even watch YouTube using it! It's that good (for me at least).

[datek23]

Originally Posted by ourbet

That's true but to be honest, because I've got a relatively slower connection speed here than you in Italy or the guys from the US, I do all my surfing through the VPN. I even watch YouTube using it! It's that good (for me at least).

Hey I was wondering about the MS host codes and IP hiding, I was wondering would it overcome third party software blocks that block your wi-fi access at hotspots, most notable Panera Bread. If I do the host code will it let me access for example Pinnacle sports? As most of ya know already to access gambling websites on Panera bread are mostly block, except for a few exceptions. Has anyone tried this already?

[runninhorn]

Originally Posted by jjgold

Getting money to the books will be the major problem, not getting around blocks

that is easy. open a bank account in canada. problem solved.

[pags11]

damn, I wish I knew what all of this meant...

[datek23]

Well it is legal to gamble in Canada, so on the way to Casino Windsor I can stop at a Windsor library and access the gaming websites under Canada soil, so I probably have to make a whole day of it. Just another option.

[jjgold]

It looks likes blocking IP's is not needed. We need a way to get money into and out of books.

[Scorpion]

How about credit cards from foreign banks for sportbooks depoists(so you dont pay $75 for wire tarnsfer) and a foreign bank for sportsbook withdrawals(wire transfer)?

The problem is finding good banks that offer high limit credit cards. Even if it must be a secured cc its ok

[caracalla]

To pjesnik24 and other people sent me PM asking

"... if you could send me the IP addresses for betsson, stanjames, 10bet, paddypower, bwin and similar sites?....."




You can find them launching MSDOS command and then

ping www.namewebsite.com

(ex: ping www.10bet.com)

In the answer there is IP address

10bet 217.205.136.249
betsson 83.138.131.179
stanjames 213.219.11.234

and so on...

Bye

[pjesnik24]

thx caracalla, you were a great help. it is working now!