[slacker00]

Is there any way in hell that the Texans can cover this spread, even at Houston? How much is this line going to move by the end of the week?

[jjgold]

Maybe 16

Maybe they will let up, who do they play after that?

[onlooker]

Maybe they will let up, who do they play after that?

They have a BYE after Houston, then play @ New England.

Houston plays Cleveland next in Houston.

Man with how bad Houston is, I dont think I could take them. And no way Im laying 14+.

[BuddyBear]

Indy -14.5, -15 at some books is a trap. Last yr same situation and Houston covered.

Take Houston and the points in this one. I'll see you at the bank!

Houston ML +837...very tempting. Can't see houston winning but that's a nice payout if it hits...even if you just put .5 units on it or $20 you'll have a nice profit!

[Razz]

I like Houston here. They are in an absolutely perfect spot. This line hopefully will move, but I don't think it will that much, as even GP isn't going to be willing to lay 15, 16 with a road favorite.

FYI - the biggest home dog in NFL history was Indy in 1992. They were getting 17 from Buffalo. The final score?
Colts 16, Bills 13

[BuddyBear]

I like Houston here. They are in an absolutely perfect spot. This line hopefully will move, but I don't think it will that much, as even GP isn't going to be willing to lay 15, 16 with a road favorite.

FYI - the biggest home dog in NFL history was Indy in 1992. They were getting 17 from Buffalo. The final score?
Colts 16, Bills 13

Who is GP Razz?

[Razz]

sorry - General Public

[Relentless]

Indy's schedule is a complete joke to this point.

[Illusion]

Indianapolis is over rated. I'm making Houston +14.5 my game of the year.

[onlooker]

Indianapolis is over rated. I'm making Houston +14.5 my game of the year.

Wake up ILL.

[Illusion]

Wake up ILL.

I'm stone sobar and serious, my game of the year is Houston +14.5

[Razz]

Hey, don't know about GOY, but I'm gonna be on it with you. You may as well wait though; I was wrong - GP is starting to bet on the Colts here.

[onlooker]

Wait on it ILL.

Vegas has it +16 everywhere just about. Hell, I may get a piece of it at +16.

Looks like alot of offshore shops moved to +15. BoDog currently has it at +16.

[bigboydan]

Indianapolis is over rated. I'm making Houston +14.5 my game of the year.

normaly i would agree with play Ill. but, the texans offensive line is just piss poor. so, i gotta wonder how many point will the colts defense get on turnovers. i'm personaly going to pass on this game, for that reason alone.

[smoothsuave]

Ok guys, I know the Colts might be overrated but they are good,
I know if Bulger didnt get hurt they would have given a run for the money, but the only reason it pulled away at the beginning was errors, a muffed kickoff and then a four and out by Indy. The colts will definitely win by two TD's and given the fact that the Texans O line is horrible ( They give up more sacks than walmart ) . Indy has a fast defense especially on the edge. That means a lot of turnovers. Not to mention the Texans QB probably will not have Andre Johnson to throw to.
So how many times has Houston scored? been sacked? turnovers given up? Alright

Week 15
Arizona at Houston
Week 17
Houston at San Francisco

[pags11]

I know nothing about the NFL, but I wouldn't lay 14.5 on the road with anyone...

[slacker00]

I keep thinking about this game. I can't see how Indy won't hang 30 on Houston, especially when you figure a turnover or two. I can't see how Houston is going to score more than 14 on this Indy defense. I've got my eyes wide open that this is a classic trap game: division opponent on the road, but my God, Indy is 6-0 with all of the answers, it seems, Houston is 0-5 and nothing but questions right now. Maybe I'm just sore that Houston got blown out Sunday night and cost me 100 bucks.

[onlooker]

How can Carr run the offense when he is spending most the time on his back. Colts have a improved Defense. Freeney should have a field day with the Houston O Line.

More and likely will be passing on this game.

[BuddyBear]

I keep thinking about this game. I can't see how Indy won't hang 30 on Houston, especially when you figure a turnover or two. I can't see how Houston is going to score more than 14 on this Indy defense. I've got my eyes wide open that this is a classic trap game: division opponent on the road, but my God, Indy is 6-0 with all of the answers, it seems, Houston is 0-5 and nothing but questions right now. Maybe I'm just sore that Houston got blown out Sunday night and cost me 100 bucks.

But this is how all trap games work. There is never any good reason to bet on the underdog. I got burned earlier this year when Indy was laying -17 to SF on the road and won. But I have to say that Indy has not really played anyone. The teams they are playing against can't score on anyone period.

In my opinion, laying -15...probably to -17 by game time is a major square play.

It's either Hourston + the points or no bet here.

I shudder at the thougt of laying anything more than 6 or 7 points period...laying DD on the road is something out of one of my nightmares!

[onlooker]

It's either Hourston + the points or no bet here.

I shudder at the thougt of laying anything more than 6 or 7 points period...laying DD on the road is something out of one of my nightmares!

Couldnt of said it better myself.

[Senator7]

I would never lay more than 10 points on a HOME team in the NFL so 14.5 on a ROAD team is definitely out of the question. That being said, putting money on Houston is a scary proposition. Although the only people making money by passing these days are NFL quarterbacks and some college ones, passing is the right option here I think!

Senator 7

[pags11]

yeah, isn't Carr leading the league in sacks?...

[smoothsuave]

At most I would say Houston would score, I didnt say a touchdown, but score no more than twice. For those affraid of betting the spread, go with Indy at the half it shouldnt be anything like Monday Night.

[slacker00]

As far as never laying 14.5 on the road. Vegas sets the line. They must expect even action on this line. I can't imagine it being that far off. If you were able to find an imaginary book where you could bet Indy only giving 10, wouldn't you jump on it with double fisted cash?

As far as "Indy hasn't played anyone yet". I've heard this argument here and there, and I don't buy it. Indy has been doing this for years now. Manning, Harrison, James have been running it up against all comers for going on a decade. The only argument that "might" be made is that they are passing their prime. But nobody is making this argument. James is in a "contract" year, being franchised. Harrison's numbers are down, only because he's being triple teamed. Manning's numbers are "mortal", but this two-time MVP is no fluke. Combine that with an improving defense, which you "may" question, Indy is looking unbeatable, at least against 2nd rate teams. Houston is a 2nd rate team, riiight? How many NFL defenses aren't going to dismantle Houston this season? Indy might get some bloated lines this season, but this week's line is justified.

I appreciate all of the responses in the thread. I am still learning, and I certainly consider myself a "square" at this "wet behind the ears" point in my sportsbetting life. I still am just making fake bets this season, and keeping track on a slip of paper. I'm 1-6 ATS so far since I started two weeks ago, so betting AGAINST my picks might be a profound sharp angle. Here's my picks in case anyone wants to play it: Dallas +3, Indy -14.5, Denver +2. The reason why I continue to ask "silly" questions such as in this thread, is because I honestly don't understand. I realize that giving me a "legit" answer is not the sharp thing to do, but I still appreciate the responses.

P.S. You guys DID talk me away from making Indy my Best Bet in the "Beat the Prick" contest. So I AM listening.

[Razz]

As far as never laying 14.5 on the road. Vegas sets the line. They must expect even action on this line. I can't imagine it being that far off. If you were able to find an imaginary book where you could bet Indy only giving 10, wouldn't you jump on it with double fisted cash?

As far as "Indy hasn't played anyone yet". I've heard this argument here and there, and I don't buy it. Indy has been doing this for years now. Manning, Harrison, James have been running it up against all comers for going on a decade. The only argument that "might" be made is that they are passing their prime. But nobody is making this argument. James is in a "contract" year, being franchised. Harrison's numbers are down, only because he's being triple teamed. Manning's numbers are "mortal", but this two-time MVP is no fluke. Combine that with an improving defense, which you "may" question, Indy is looking unbeatable, at least against 2nd rate teams. Houston is a 2nd rate team, riiight? How many NFL defenses aren't going to dismantle Houston this season? Indy might get some bloated lines this season, but this week's line is justified.

I appreciate all of the responses in the thread. I am still learning, and I certainly consider myself a "square" at this "wet behind the ears" point in my sportsbetting life. I still am just making fake bets this season, and keeping track on a slip of paper. I'm 1-6 ATS so far since I started two weeks ago, so betting AGAINST my picks might be a profound sharp angle. Here's my picks in case anyone wants to play it: Dallas +3, Indy -14.5, Denver +2. The reason why I continue to ask "silly" questions such as in this thread, is because I honestly don't understand. I realize that giving me a "legit" answer is not the sharp thing to do, but I still appreciate the responses.

P.S. You guys DID talk me away from making Indy my Best Bet in the "Beat the Prick" contest. So I AM listening.

I agree with you in that there is no reasonable situation where I can say i automatically would avoid a play, such as the aforementioned DD road fav.

I personally think there are at least three teams worse than Houston in the NFL. Indy has no motivation to play well this week, while Houston has all the reason in the world to try to get something going.

By the way, the Colts defense is still horrible. The Rams were the first legit offense they have played this season. If Bulger played the whole game last week, the Rams would have scored 40 or 50.

[slacker00]

Razz, I don't buy that the Colts defense is "horrible". They've played solid so far, albeit, against middling offenses. I will buy that the Colts defense is "overrated", or that the Colts defense is "mediocre" by NFL standards. Thing is, the Colts don't need a #1 defense to pound Houston. I think the Colts D is more than enough to put the hurt on Carr. Couple that with an offense that can run it up, putting the defense into favorable situations, I don't see how Indy won't keep a double touchdown cushion easily.

[Razz]

Well, good luck. I'm not sure I'm even going to bet the game, but if I do it will be Houston.

By horrible, I mean they are one of the worst 7 defenses in the NFL. Any top-10 offense should score 25 at the very minimum against this bunch. When San Diego plays there, they will score on almost every possession.

[spanky]

don't bet on shit teams in nfl like hou,minn,arizona,st.lou,s.f.and n.o. they won't cover spread more than a third of thier games,and you will be wrong on them alot.like minn last week,n.o. the week before.

[smoothsuave]

Razz
Indy has plenty of motivation to win
1) its only week 7 out of 17 plenty of times to lose if not motivated
2) homefield advantage could be lost w/out winning
3) a close game against the Texans would be demoralizing to the Colts
4) How about just wanting to win for the fun of it

Peyton Manning has thought of every scenario and reason why they should be motivated.


Up until the last game Colts defense did show weakness. They are strong, but not bulky. They are very fast though.

[slacker00]

Well, good luck. I'm not sure I'm even going to bet the game, but if I do it will be Houston.

By horrible, I mean they are one of the worst 7 defenses in the NFL. Any top-10 offense should score 25 at the very minimum against this bunch. When San Diego plays there, they will score on almost every possession.

Indy being one of the 7 worst defenses? You have gotta be kidding. They've got a lot of team speed on a ballhawking defense, which will really help when protecting leads. I do have my concerns about this defense when Indy plays quality opponents in close games. But, when teams need to match Indy touchdown for touchdown, this defense will be at it's best. That's exactly what will be happening this weekend.

When San Diego comes to Indy, we'll talk about San Diego coming to Indy. Houston is not San Diego.

[Razz]

Ha. I wasn't trying to compare Houston to San Diego. I'm the first to admit, they compare more to San Diego St. than the Chargers.

Slacker, I'm not trying to argue with you; I respect the way you are trying to initiate yourself into sports gambling. There is plenty of reason to think the Colts will cover this weekend, I just don't feel they will.

MLM - I believe you make lines about like I believe jjgold blew some old man and bragged about it online. Still, nice job "setting" the line at 14.5, and then boasting about houston being a sucker bet when the public moves the line 1.5 points the other way.

[pags11]

who's willing to put this game in as their best bet?...